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highplainsdem

(48,910 posts)
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 10:17 AM Nov 2017

Wow! Benjamin Wittes thread about Trump's comments on the DOJ and FBI

Starting here, with all the tweets in the thread on one page:




I've been thinking about these comments Trump made. What a fabulous tribute they are to the men and women of the DOJ and the FBI!

The tribute is, of course, inadvertent: Trump doesn't understand the statement he is making about independent law enforcement. /2/

But let's unpack it for a moment. /3/

The President is saying that he would like to interfere in ongoing investigations. He is saying that he would like to order up /4/

investigations of his political opponents. He is announcing that he is a corrupt actor who does not believe in the rule of law. /5/

He is a man who is capable of firing his FBI Director because he will not aid him in these endeavors and to threaten his AG and his DAG /6/

and the special counsel over the inconveniences they pose him. Even as I type this, he is tweeting about how DOJ should be investigating /7/

Clinton. (For example:
…) In these comments, he is announcing frankly how badly he wants to corrupt the DOJ. /8/

And yet, he is "frustrated." Why? It's not because of Jim Comey. He got rid of Jim Comey. It's not because of Sessions or Rosenstein. /9/

Lordy knows they have not shrouded themselves in glory. It's because the norm of independent law enforcement—which he is menacing—is /10/

actually strong enough to constrain him—at least right now. It's strong enough that he can fulminate all he wants about investigating /11/

Clinton and still Mueller does his job, and the FBI does its job, and the men and women of the DOJ do their jobs, and none of their /12/

jobs, as our democratic polity has determined them, is to fulfill his undemocratic ambitions to loose investigators on people he /13/

doesn't like and to have the Justice Department protect him. It's a stunning statement of presidential constraint: A president actually /14/

saying that he aspires to corrupt interference with law enforcement and can't pull it off. Let it warm your heart. It sure warms mine. /15/

That's all I got. /16/
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hlthe2b

(102,120 posts)
2. It speaks to how stressed we all are (and I certainly am), that I got choked up reading that...
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 10:35 AM
Nov 2017

I search daily for stories that will lift spirits and reassure. This one is that one today. Thank you Mr. Wittes.

joshcryer

(62,265 posts)
7. I feel you.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 11:25 AM
Nov 2017

Some news can suck the life out of you, especially when you know that "news" is self-interested bullshit only designed to throw doubt in the mix as opposed to bring clarity and information.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,157 posts)
3. He wants to be a dictator SO bad...
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 10:50 AM
Nov 2017

I think it's the uniform. Everyone should chip in to get him an Idi Amin outfit to keep him out of our hair.

Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
18. Remember when Trevor Noah said T was presidential but in the wrong country and did that whole piece
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 08:22 PM
Nov 2017

juxtaposing his statements with statements by African dictators like Idi?

MyOwnPeace

(16,917 posts)
4. It's his DISRESPECT for the LAW!
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 10:56 AM
Nov 2017

Remember when he told a meeting of police chiefs that they shouldn't be too careful about bumping heads when putting suspects into the police cars? Kinda' hoping they remember that when they take IQ45 and his family for their "perp walk!"

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
5. Every day this dangerous con man is taking a battering ram to our Republic, testing it.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 11:03 AM
Nov 2017

We are taking body blows left and right. Yet even though we are bloodied and bruised, we are holding.
The system is still working. The guard rails are still protecting. Robert Mueller is still at work doing his job.



K&R

ffr

(22,665 posts)
10. He isn't going away and his gov't accomplices aren't going to protect the constitution
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 12:15 PM
Nov 2017

from his assaults.

At some point this is going to come to a head. And with Dotard in power, he's going to make the first move.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
11. I wonder who is included in "Everybody" in Trump's obstruction of justice tweet?
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 12:18 PM
Nov 2017

Sad that Trump can never specify who it is that's urging him to violate the Constitution, which he swore to preserve, protect, and defend.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,488 posts)
13. Highplainsdem, a good relevant article...
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 12:42 PM
Nov 2017

on our fall from glory:

(snip)
The time when America stopped being great
See: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41826022
(snip)
Few countries look anymore to Trump's America as a global exemplar, the "city upon a hill" Reagan spoke of in his farewell address to the nation. The German Chancellor Angela Merkel is routinely described as the leader of the free world, the moniker bestowed on the US president since the days of FDR.

The Economist, which trolls Trump almost weekly, has described Chinese President Xi Jinping as the most powerful man in the world. American exceptionalism is now commonly viewed as a negative construct. "Only in America" is a term of derision.

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Maybe someone better than I can turn this into a good OP.

pandr32

(11,553 posts)
16. This should be echoed everywhere
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 01:45 PM
Nov 2017

Well done!
We become so bogged down in the constant stream of bs coming from Dotard. You have shone daylight on the manipulator-in-chief--revealing his true nature in a way that would be difficult to spin otherwise.

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