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Yavin4

(35,432 posts)
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 10:33 AM Nov 2017

The solution to the Democrats' problem(s) is clear.

New leadership is needed. New candidates are needed. Sweep out the old and bring in the new. Everyone needs to go now. The public is exasperated with the current leaders of the party, and we need new ones. Everyone remotely tied to the 2016 campaign needs to take a step back out of the spotlight, and let new people emerge.

2016 is done and over. Stop re-fighting it.

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The solution to the Democrats' problem(s) is clear. (Original Post) Yavin4 Nov 2017 OP
Seems to me like the people involved in the 2016 DURHAM D Nov 2017 #1
We Need Both Seasoned Professionals and New Candidates dlk Nov 2017 #2
It's time for new faces. Yavin4 Nov 2017 #3
Using that thinking the other party got Trump. redstatebluegirl Nov 2017 #5
Not entirely. We just need to really support the candidates that are out there working for us. We coolsandy Nov 2017 #4
Yes shenmue Nov 2017 #6

DURHAM D

(32,609 posts)
1. Seems to me like the people involved in the 2016
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 10:44 AM
Nov 2017

campaign have already moved back except Donna Brazile who still serves on the Democratic National Committee.

And yes, she needs to go.


Primary Error: Donna Brazile Mixed Up Two Different Clinton-DNC Agreements

Donna Brazile reopened 2016 Democratic primary wounds yesterday by publishing a portion of her new book, Hacks: The Inside Story Of The Break Ins And Breakdowns at POLITICO. Although the usual suspects leaped on her claims that Hillary Clinton “control[ed] the party’s finances, strategy, and all the money raised” in a 2015 document, by the evening it became clear that Brazile had misrepresented the reality.

There is absolutely nothing in the Clinton campaign’s 2015 Joint Fundraising Agreement that gave her any such “control” — not even in the draft version of that document hacked by Russian intelligence and published by WikiLeaks.

Whereas Brazile claimed that Clinton wanted to “wield control of [DNC] operations” in 2015, she never assumed any such powers until June of 2016, when the primary race was over and she was the official nominee. As Brazile acknowledges, it is absolutely normal for the nominee to take control of the party apparatus at that point.

It is also normal for the nominee to sign a whole new Joint Fundraising Agreement with the DNC, which is exactly what Clinton did. Brazile has two different Agreements mixed up in her mind — and her publisher has failed on a basic fact-check. Either someone is too lazy to read the actual DNC documents for themselves, or they are lying on purpose.


More at link - http://deepstatenation.com/primary-error-donna-brazile-mixed-up-two-different-clinton-dnc-agreements/

dlk

(11,541 posts)
2. We Need Both Seasoned Professionals and New Candidates
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 10:47 AM
Nov 2017

Before we get ahead of ourselves, throwing away all of the experienced and seasoned candidates, consider this: would you schedule open heart surgery or organ transplant with a young doc, just out of medical school who has never performed the operation or would you choose a seasoned professional who has successfully performed the surgery many times? Granted there are some candidates who need to retire. However, we need both experienced and seasoned professionals along with new, young candidates to win elections, and transform our democracy. This isn't an either/or situation.

Also, is the exasperation with the actual Democratic leadership or the how the conservative media with its bias consistently portrays them, giving time and attention to the disgruntled few, and their bitter pronouncements. Currently, there is a lot of excitement in the Democratic Party and great things are happening all across our country. The media just isn't paying much attention. Negative coverage works.

Yavin4

(35,432 posts)
3. It's time for new faces.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 11:18 AM
Nov 2017

Yes, in some fields like medicine experience is needed, but this is politics where you have to sway the masses. It's entirely different. 2016 was a very ugly election cycle, and bad memories are tied to those involved. When anyone from the cycle emerges, the bad memories come back with them.

Move on.

 

coolsandy

(479 posts)
4. Not entirely. We just need to really support the candidates that are out there working for us. We
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 11:22 AM
Nov 2017

need to stop behaving like petulant kids because our primary candidate didn't win. Hillary had it right but many ignored her. We are STRONGER TOGETHER and America is stronger together.

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