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wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 11:51 AM Nov 2017

Primary Error: Donna Brazile Mixed Up Two Different Clinton-DNC Agreements

Not sure if this is a reliable source. Never heard of it.

Donna Brazile reopened 2016 Democratic primary wounds yesterday by publishing a portion of her new book, Hacks: The Inside Story Of The Break Ins And Breakdowns at POLITICO. Although the usual suspects leaped on her claims that Hillary Clinton “control[ed] the party’s finances, strategy, and all the money raised” in a 2015 document, by the evening it became clear that Brazile had misrepresented the reality.

There is absolutely nothing in the Clinton campaign’s 2015 Joint Fundraising Agreement that gave her any such “control” — not even in the draft version of that document hacked by Russian intelligence and published by WikiLeaks.

Whereas Brazile claimed that Clinton wanted to “wield control of [DNC] operations” in 2015, she never assumed any such powers until June of 2016, when the primary race was over and she was the official nominee. As Brazile acknowledges, it is absolutely normal for the nominee to take control of the party apparatus at that point.

It is also normal for the nominee to sign a whole new Joint Fundraising Agreement with the DNC, which is exactly what Clinton did. Brazile has two different Agreements mixed up in her mind — and her publisher has failed on a basic fact-check. Either someone is too lazy to read the actual DNC documents for themselves, or they are lying on purpose.

Neither of these possibilities is comforting, and the latter seems all too likely, as Brazile is clearly hanging her narrative on other people’s bad information.

For example, a POLITICO hit piece last year described Clinton’s fundraising agreement with the state parties as “essentially … money laundering.” Brazile repeats this shady construction, saying that “the states kept less than half of 1 percent of the $82 million they had amassed from the extravagant fund-raisers Hillary’s campaign was holding.”

But that is not what the 2015 Joint Fundraising Agreement said — and it is not what happened.

http://deepstatenation.com/primary-error-donna-brazile-mixed-up-two-different-clinton-dnc-agreements/
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Primary Error: Donna Brazile Mixed Up Two Different Clinton-DNC Agreements (Original Post) wyldwolf Nov 2017 OP
Post removed Post removed Nov 2017 #1
Better yet, support the DSCC who is rasing millions for Democrats leftofcool Nov 2017 #3
Millions for people running for the Senate, DURHAM D Nov 2017 #4
Or both... comradebillyboy Nov 2017 #8
K & R Wwcd Nov 2017 #2
Color me skeptical until some of major media outlets verify this info procon Nov 2017 #5
He has a few rabbit pics up on the internet Not Ruth Nov 2017 #6
I agree, and it seems like the information should be easily verified. Pacifist Patriot Nov 2017 #7
"Deep State Nation" ? I doubt its very credible. liberalnarb Nov 2017 #9
The author, Matt Osborne, is kinda legit Brother Buzz Nov 2017 #10
Hmmm. We'll see where it goes. liberalnarb Nov 2017 #11
I don't disagree Brother Buzz Nov 2017 #12
It all seems really suspicious. liberalnarb Nov 2017 #14
Damn, Twitter trolls got their accounts suspended. joshcryer Nov 2017 #13
Brazille has been an zentrum Nov 2017 #15
Why would Brazile do something so damaging as this. What is her motives? lancelyons Nov 2017 #16
Either she really cares about exposing truth, or she wants to sell books. thesquanderer Nov 2017 #19
Donna Brazile True Blue American Nov 2017 #17
If this was 2016; I'd have a ton of opinions on Brazile, HRC, et al. lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #18
I've had the anti-Hill brigade bothering me today on Twitter MrScorpio Nov 2017 #20
I don't think so RandomAccess Nov 2017 #21

Response to wyldwolf (Original post)

procon

(15,805 posts)
5. Color me skeptical until some of major media outlets verify this info
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 12:22 PM
Nov 2017

and start reporting it. I am suspicious of anything written by an unknown blogger who self identifies himself as a "rabbit caretaker". That CV just doesn't give me any confidence in his chops as an investigative journalist. Maybe he's onto something, I dunno, but I would like to see a 2nd legitimate source reach the same conclusions.

Brother Buzz

(36,417 posts)
10. The author, Matt Osborne, is kinda legit
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 01:34 PM
Nov 2017

He's been published in Crooks and Liars, AlterNet, The National Memo, Seeking Alpha, shots, Investment Advisor Magazine.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
15. Brazille has been an
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 02:00 PM
Nov 2017

.....exceptionally loyal soldier for The Democrats. Her analysis is from the inside. I think lots of people are having a come to Jesus moment. She has no reason to speak out unless she is deeply troubled. In this, I stand with her. We've got to be able to fight Trump, fight nazis, and the Republican agenda and tell the truth and improve our own party at the same time. This can't be an either-or decision.

 

lancelyons

(988 posts)
16. Why would Brazile do something so damaging as this. What is her motives?
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 02:16 PM
Nov 2017

Why would Brazile do something so damaging as this. What is her motives?

I certainly believe that turn around is fair play and that she should be hammered for any incorrect stuff she is pushing.

Boy all the good work she might have done has been destroyed.

thesquanderer

(11,986 posts)
19. Either she really cares about exposing truth, or she wants to sell books.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 02:36 PM
Nov 2017

(Or some combination, of course.)

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
17. Donna Brazile
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 02:18 PM
Nov 2017

Has been for Donna as long as I can remember.

She and Debbie ran the DNC into the ground after Terry McAullife cleared all the debts,built a new DNC head quarters in Virginia.

Donna is strictly a self promoter,Judy like DWS. They have already proved she lied in her book.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
18. If this was 2016; I'd have a ton of opinions on Brazile, HRC, et al.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 02:18 PM
Nov 2017

My only opinion now is "What the fuck does this have to do with impeaching Trump?"

MrScorpio

(73,630 posts)
20. I've had the anti-Hill brigade bothering me today on Twitter
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 02:47 PM
Nov 2017

Of course, they were too busy hating on Hill to do their homework as well.

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
21. I don't think so
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 10:26 PM
Nov 2017

This article was written in Feb 2016 and it says, about the August agreement, about the same thing Brazille wrote:


Democratic Party fundraising effort helps Clinton find new donors, too February 20, 2016
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/democratic-party-fundraising-effort-helps-clinton-find-new-donors-too/2016/02/19/b8535cea-d68f-11e5-b195-2e29a4e13425_story.html

Behind the scenes at the Democratic National Committee’s summer meeting in Minneapolis last August, campaign officials for Hillary Clinton were making a hard sell to the state parties.

In private huddles, they urged state officials to sign on to an ambitious fundraising endeavor that would allow Clinton’s presidential bid, the DNC and the state parties to scoop up and share big checks from wealthy donors. It would mark the earliest creation of a joint fundraising committee between a presidential candidate and the party, and it would be the biggest ever, thanks to a 2014 U.S. Supreme Court decision that knocked down a cap on how much donors could give to federal campaigns in a single year.

A record 32 state parties signed on to the fund, allowing the committee to solicit donations 130 times greater than what a supporter can give to Clinton’s campaign for the primary.

But the states have yet to see a financial windfall. Meanwhile, Clinton’s campaign has been a major beneficiary, getting an infusion of low-dollar contributions through the committee at a time when rival Bernie Sanders’s army of small donors is helping him close in on her financially. The fund is run by Clinton campaign staff, and its treasurer is Clinton’s chief operating officer.
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