Walmart shooter reportedly lived with stack of Bibles, no furniture. Why isn't he a terrorist?

[applegrove]

By Walter Einenkel at Daily Kos

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/11/3/1712436/-Walmart-shooter-reportedly-lived-with-stack-of-Bibles-no-furniture-Why-isn-t-he-a-terrorist

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Teresa Muniz says she gets a chill when she realizes her neighbor was on his way to commit America’s next horrific shooting. The “angry guy upstairs” drove to a nearby Walmart where witnesses say he walked in, calmly took out his handgun, and shot and killed three people waiting in line to pay. Neighbors described Ostrem as a bizarre, angry man who lived alone in an apartment with a stack of Bibles and virtually no furniture.

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Hispanic residents said he was especially mean to them.

“He wouldn’t say nothing to us, but he talked to the only white couple who lives here,” Muniz said. “I don’t understand where that hatred comes from.”

There’s also this from ABC News.

Killed were Pamela Marques, 52, of Denver; Carlos Moreno, 66, of Thornton; and Victor Vasquez, 26, of Denver.

None were Walmart employees, and all were Hispanic.

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[malaise]

1. The lack of coverage is breath-taking

He killed Hispanics therefore he's not a terrorist - just doing the Con's work.

[quartz007]

5. Any mal-content who kills/hurts innocent civilians

is a fucking terrorist. This bible thumper meets all my criteria for a terrorist.

[JDC]

2. He is. He wont be labeled such, but no doubt about it

As is the Vegas shooter

[Sneederbunk]

3. He should have read the Bibles.

[maxsolomon]

6. any parts in particular?

it can be twisted to support any agenda.

maybe he thought he was without sin and could cast the 1st stone.

[shenmue]

11. John 15:12

This is my commandment, that you love one another, as I have loved you.
John 15:12 - https://www.biblegateway.com/passage?search=John%2015:12&version=DRA

[hlthe2b]

4. He was a registered Republican and reportedly was especially unpleasant/rude to Latino neighbors

[MineralMan]

7. He IS a Terrorist.

[Ilsa]

8. Hate crime. Special circumstances.

Threaten with death penalty. Give him life, no parole.

[SunSeeker]

15. Exactly. nt

[kysrsoze]

9. Hes white, so hes just mentally ill.

BTW - why can’t we use quotation marks in our reply titles? I’m enough of an idiot. I don’t need any more help looking so.

[RKP5637]

10. Terrorists don't get called out unless they meet the qualifications. Fucked up society!!! n/t

[thbobby]

12. He had bibles so

Was not a terrorist.

If he had a Quran, then he would have definitely have been a terrorist.

[meow2u3]

13. He's a white Bible thumper

Therefore, he's not a terrorist.

[salin]

14. Silence, from Trump.

why?

a) gunz

b) white guy/aggrieved shooter

c) people of color targeted/killed

???

Heart breaking.

[Initech]

16. This is the kind of mind that the NRA attracts.

[Alice11111]

27. For sure. It promotes homegrown terrorists.

[Initech]

29. While the NRA gets to blame the other guy.

It's quite brilliant really. You're far more likely to get killed by a guy with a gun than you are by any terrorist group.

[Alice11111]

30. For sure. Plus, all the kids who are accidentally shot.

[bronxiteforever]

17. Kick and recommend for visibility of this evil. Everyone should read this.

Make it the story it should be.

[fierywoman]

18. fake "X-tian" -- a real one would walk the talk of the golden rule.

Sigh. Can you imagine what a country/world this would be if we all just arbitrarily decided to live the golden rule, no matter what?

[Amaryllis]

19. Only brown people meet the criteria to be terrorists.

[ananda]

20. Let me guess.

He's a white biblethumper ...

[FBaggins]

21. Actually... there is an answer for that.

Terrorism is technically the use of violence in the pursuit of political aims. So if his attack was an attempt to... say... get the US to return tribal lands owned by his ancestors - or to scare an abortion clinic into closing - or to frighten people away from voting against Trump... then it could be called terrorism.

If he's killing people because he thinks the Bible calls on him to do so (perhaps to bring about the end-times?), then that too could be called terrorism.

If he's just some nut who decided to kill some people but wasn't trying to further some political aim... then he isn't a terrorist.

That doesn't mean that his actions are less-reprehensible than those of a terrorist who kills the same number of people... just that it isn't the right label for his actions.

[EX500rider]

23. Sure, use facts and definitions...

......like you expect people to know what words mean!!

[lunasun]

22. Should be looked in to as a hate crime. Shot Hispanics only

[whopis01]

24. Well it was a stack of bibles, not korans

That’s why he isn’t a terrorist.

[dembotoz]

25. Depends on which translation..King James comes from God, others from satan

Yes I have actually heard that

[Alice11111]

26. He is, IMO.

[guillaumeb]

28. White people can never be terrorists.

A white male shooter is always a lone wolf and guns are never part of the problem.

[SummerSnow]

31. A white man with a bible? He will never be called a terrorist.

[Not Ruth]

32. White Christian terrorist

[Grown2Hate]

33. ...Muniz said. I dont understand where that hatred comes from.

Well, look no further than our pResident to understand where that hatred comes from. He STARTED his campaign with a hateful screed against Mexicans. Fucking monster.

[applegrove]

34. I know it!