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Sat Nov 4, 2017, 04:41 PM

The Question No One is Asking About the DNC

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How did it get to be so mismanaged? Who let these assholes run the show? DWS, DB, both unfit. I mean, just who is reading the resumes and interviewing these people to lead the DNC? What happened indeed!

A better question is, How do we keep from repeating these mistakes?

We have midterms coming up rapidly, and these new allegations create distrust of the Democratic party. Even if you don't buy into the DB junk (which you shouldn't), why would you trust a party run so haphazardly?

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ProudLib72 Nov 2017 OP
NBachers Nov 2017 #1
Cattledog Nov 2017 #2
Adrahil Nov 2017 #4
Wellstone ruled Nov 2017 #3
ProudLib72 Nov 2017 #5
Wellstone ruled Nov 2017 #8
chimpymustgo Nov 2017 #29
jalan48 Nov 2017 #6
gilpo Nov 2017 #7
ProudLib72 Nov 2017 #9
louis c Nov 2017 #10
DDySiegs Nov 2017 #11
ProudLib72 Nov 2017 #12
Eko Nov 2017 #13
ProudLib72 Nov 2017 #14
Eko Nov 2017 #15
ProudLib72 Nov 2017 #16
Eko Nov 2017 #19
ProudLib72 Nov 2017 #21
Eko Nov 2017 #28
ProudLib72 Nov 2017 #22
Lee-Lee Nov 2017 #24
Eko Nov 2017 #17
leftofcool Nov 2017 #26
Eko Nov 2017 #30
nini Nov 2017 #18
coolsandy Nov 2017 #20
ProudLib72 Nov 2017 #23
Puzzledtraveller Nov 2017 #25
nini Nov 2017 #27
ProudLib72 Nov 2017 #31
nini Nov 2017 #32
ProudLib72 Nov 2017 #34
BainsBane Nov 2017 #33

Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 04:47 PM

1. Paging Dr. Dean . . . Paging Dr. Dean . . .

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 04:52 PM

2. It started when Obama replaced Dean in 2009.

Rahm Emanuel was against Dean's 50 state strategy.

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Response to Cattledog (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 04:57 PM

4. It was one of Obama's worst mistakes....

 

I love the guy, and I think he was a great President. But there is no doubt he messed up appointing DWS. She was awful.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 04:53 PM

3. Two people,

 

Wassermann-Schultz, and the person who recommended her to Obama as a appointee.

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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 05:13 PM

5. But do we trust Ellison and Perez to set things straight?

Both financially and with the whole DB "scandal"? Ellison said today that he wants to make the DNC more transparent. Fine, that makes sense in relation to DB's assertions. But it doesn't tell me where the money will come from to make the DNC solvent again.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Reply #5)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 05:32 PM

8. Perez has to kiss some butt

 

and take control. Ellison has a issue that needs to be resolved and it will get resolved.

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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #8)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 09:08 PM

29. Pezez needs to step down. Dr. Howard Dean is the one to fix this. nt

nt

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 05:16 PM

6. Yep-this is the million dollar question. We need to do some self analysis going forward.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 05:26 PM

7. It's all a grift for consultants

The whole structure is in place to grift using ad buys and consulting fees.

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Response to gilpo (Reply #7)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 05:32 PM

9. Maybe we can hire Cambridge Analytica to figure out

how best to advertise and whom to hit up for contributions?

Yes, in house would be best.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 05:37 PM

10. Question: Who the Fuck is DSW?

 

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Response to louis c (Reply #10)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 05:44 PM

11. Might be a Typo

That is DSW should be DWS (?) Debbie Wasserman Schultz

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Response to louis c (Reply #10)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 05:48 PM

12. Ooopps! Fixed it.

Must have had airplanes on my mind and thought DFW.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 06:55 PM

13. traitorous assholes?

Wow, why dont you tell us what you really think about the DNC, you know, our party?. Friends like you,,,,,,,

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Response to Eko (Reply #13)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 07:25 PM

14. Really? So you like Donna Brazile?

Says a lot about you!

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Response to ProudLib72 (Reply #14)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 07:30 PM

15. Plural.

You used plural, no I dont like Donna at all, maybe it was a typo on your part?

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Response to Eko (Reply #15)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 07:38 PM

16. Refering to DB and DWS

DWS was traitorous in her mismanagement which ended up causing a scandal that saw her replaced by DB. You can argue that what DWS did was not selling out the party, but it was at least detrimental to HRC's campaign. But, yeah, DB is the real traitor here.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Reply #16)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 07:47 PM

19. And that scandal

was Russians leaking emails that supposedly showed party officials conspiring to sabotage the campaign of Senator Bernie Sanders, which you are pissed at DB because she is trying to say that the DNC conspired to sabotage the Sanders campaign. Do you not see the dichotomy there?

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Response to Eko (Reply #19)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 08:04 PM

21. I see your point, but...

No, I'm not conflating DWS and DB into the same scandal. I'm talking about the scandal of the DNC being in debt. To me, that is the biggest cover up. How she was funding the DNC prior to or after HRC was chosen is not the point. Honestly, I think that they wanted to get rid of DWS more because she was bad at managing finances than the leaked emails. But to make it better, I'll retract the 'traitorous" epithet from DWS. It does not change the fact that she was a poor financial manager.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Reply #21)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 09:05 PM

28. Cool,

But the scandal that got her to resign was the leaked emails, not the debt. Poor financial manager, probably, traitorous, no and thanks for retracting it. I'm not a DWS fan, but I don't like people calling Democrats traitors at all unless they deserve it. DB on the other hand just might. Once again, thanks.
Eko.

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Response to Eko (Reply #19)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 08:09 PM

22. Sorry, I realize that when I say the DWS "scandal"

that automatically correlates to the leaked emails. I want to make sure you understand that I am only referring to the cover up of the debt that DB let everyone know about.

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Response to Eko (Reply #19)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 08:22 PM

24. DWS failed by having a super lax IT/cyber security program that allowed the hacks

 

The hack wasn’t even sophisticated. It was a routine phishing hack the kind I see one or more a week in my inboxes.

But there were multiple levels of failure. First using Gmail for party business that opened them up to this kind of phishing. Second the incompetent It person at the DNC who told Panetta the phishing email was real and to click on the link- a double failure in both saying it was real and telling him to click the link in the email instead of changing his password by logging in and using the account settings instead of clicking the link.

And then to compound that when the FBI reaches out to the IT people at the DNC they ignored them and blew them off.

None of those failures were hard to prevent. Any competent IT department could have prevented the Panetta hack the way it happened.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Reply #14)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 07:39 PM

17. This is what I saw.

"Who let these traitorous assholes run the show? DWS, DB, both unfit."
You used plural, grouped them together, so it is safe to assume you are calling DWS a traitorous asshole also. If not, my bad, but I would attribute it to your wording as much as my understanding of what you wrote.

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Response to Eko (Reply #13)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 08:34 PM

26. The DNC is NOT our Party

Our party is the Democratic Party. The DNC is just another corporation/committee. Once they go broke again, and don't have Hillary to bail them out, they will be just another failed corporation.

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Response to leftofcool (Reply #26)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 09:11 PM

30. It is what leads our party.

If not the DNC then what does?
Thanks for playing.
Eko.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 07:42 PM

18. "why would you trust a party run so haphazardly?"

I am so fucking sick of seeing stuff like this on here.



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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 07:50 PM

20. I think Perez will do a good job if he gets the support he needs and some on the left stop trashing

 

him. He is not a flashy, arrogant type but a steadfast, smart and shrewd manager. Give him a chance. He has already started cleaning house and already received some hits for it.

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Response to coolsandy (Reply #20)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 08:11 PM

23. I know you're right, that I shouldn't question him

It's that we are under pressure to get things organized for next year. I think I just had this wave of anxiety hit me at the beginning of this month.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 08:24 PM

25. be careful

self criticism is frowned upon.

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Response to Puzzledtraveller (Reply #25)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 08:38 PM

27. Constructive criticism is not a problem

subtle Democrat bashing is another thing all together.

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Response to nini (Reply #27)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 09:18 PM

31. Well, thank goodness no one is doing that here

Unless, of course, you think DWS is the best financial manager ever and have proof to back it up.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Reply #31)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 09:54 PM

32. What's constructive about going after DWS now?

There's a reason why Breitbart and Fox are bringing up all kinds of crap about her lately. It's to keep the Dems in disarray fighting about the past and making fights where they shouldn't exist.


Perez should be the focus moving forward if you're truly concerned.

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Response to nini (Reply #32)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 10:24 PM

34. Look, I get where you are coming from

Don't bash Dems.

Yes, I agree that Perez should be the focus; however, I want to know we have some good financial management so that we can avoid the need for a bailout next year. I want assurances there is a cogent plan.

You're upset over my "haphazard" comment. Yes, I can see how that sounds harsh. I'm looking at this from the perspective of a potential donor. After this story hit, there were some DU posts from people who donated expressing disappointment with the way funds were managed. If this is true of a few DUers, there must be many more potential donors out there having the same doubts.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 09:55 PM

33. Neglect

Not so benign.

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