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anything to distract from the truth that they and the assault rifle crowd have ownership in this.
Squinch
(50,934 posts)chelsea0011
(10,115 posts)Does a back ground check preclude you from getting a firearm if you have this type of discharge? Or is it not a factor. Just asking.
LuvLoogie
(6,973 posts)It could be hard to draw a line between a given reason and a firearms restriction.
Baconator
(1,459 posts)That's what Bergdahl got...
That's pretty much a felony right there with all that entails.
He probably got an 'Other than honorable' and just got sent home...
yardwork
(61,588 posts)Baconator
(1,459 posts)Last edited Mon Nov 6, 2017, 02:35 AM - Edit history (1)
... but that often comes with other convictions like murder or rape or something like that.
I suspect, that it was just someone using imprecise language.
Bad conduct... Other than honorable... Administrative... etc.. Different types of discharges that can seem interchangeable to a layman.
https://themilitarywallet.com/types-of-military-discharges/
I found the quote on CBS and that is indeed what they said. I'll look later to see if it shakes out.
You've really got to fuck up to get that kind of discharge though. MTF...
Edit...looks legit...I stand kind of corrected...
Edit 2... Nope.. Right the first time...
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)With "other than honorable" because they were basically wound up WAY too tight for the military. Most large organizations have ways of weeding people out.
Baconator
(1,459 posts)Worlds apart...
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)and no one asks a question about him.
Are we stupid, or what?
Igel
(35,293 posts)Let's assume that Group X is responsible for nearly 50% of murder suspects according to eyewitnesses but make up a reasonably small percentage of the population.
The assumption is that this group is somehow special. It is. But the assumption carries with it a special emphasis on tracking members of that group, of suspecting that they're all bad, encouraging fear of each and every one of them.
And for many this seems reasonable. It's not. In fact, that's the actual numbers for a particular ethnic group in a Western country, and to single out every member of that group as worthy of special attention is viewed as profoundly discriminatory. Because it is. Such a view gets the stats backwards.
Given that murders aren't common, it's a very small percentage of Group X responsible for the disproportionate stats. At the individual level, the group stats say precious little about the individual and certainly doesn't merit special scrutiny.
It works for ethnic groups. It works for the usual way that we define the set of deviants that love their guns. I know lots of them. None has every so much as lifted a finger to hurt another person in the decades I've known them. This is consistent with the facts viewed accurately. Now, do some of them go and do bad things? Sure. But just as we don't like ethnic profiling because it's based on a statistically false conclusion, so we don't profile "gun humpers" because such scrutiny would also be based on a statistically false conclusion.
And, yes, some say we're stupid for opposing racial profiling. Mostly we just suck at intuitive approaches to probability and statistics. Just ask nearly anybody who's taken the class. Our intuitions tend to betray us every time.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Most of them are racist, violent and at a minimum, just don't give a damn what their sick obsession does to society. I have no tolerance for that.
joshcryer
(62,269 posts)He probably purchased the gun from an individual (individual sales do not require a background check; it's the "gun show loophole" ).
https://www.guntrustlawyer.com/2010/09/dishonorable-discharge-and-nfa.html
lunasun
(21,646 posts)damage control work to be done ASAP
50 Shades Of Blue
(9,957 posts)roamer65
(36,745 posts)Probably bought it at a gun show.