Watching Tom Perez on Chris Haye's show...

[Atman]

No wonder the Democrats are losing.

OMG. Sorry, alert on me, ban me...how is this the face of the party that will win against charismatic snake-oil salesmen on the right?

I've just finished doing work for the VA Northam campaign. Bilingual even. The party head Tom Perez just delivered the most uninspired drivel I've ever heard. How are we supposed to win races this way?

Sorry, I just had to vent.

[Ccarmona]

1. I Agree. I have a thread just below Yours.

Sorry, But Tom Perez Isnt the Right Person to Lead the DNC

[elleng]

6. We hope such a person exists.

Remember the contenders? Ellison? Pete Buttigieg?

[rwsanders]

54. My vote for party head or next prez candidate is Ted Danson

Read his book on Oceana. It was geared to those who don't know the issues, but I still found it a great read.

[question everything]

55. I thought there was somone from Indiana, not well known

but showed promise.

And as long as you are talking contenders- look at what we have for 2020

[elleng]

60. South Bend mayor?

Peter Paul Montgomery Buttigieg[2] ( /ˈbuːtɪdʒɛdʒ/; born January 19, 1982) is the current and 32nd Mayor of South Bend, Indiana.[3] A member of the Democratic Party, Buttigieg has been serving as mayor since January 1, 2012.

Buttigieg is a graduate of Harvard University, a Rhodes Scholar, and a veteran of the war in Afghanistan.

He has been mentioned as a possible candidate for President of the United States in the 2020 U.S. presidential election.[4] If elected, Buttigieg would be the first openly gay U.S. President.[5]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Buttigieg

[question everything]

61. Pete Buttigieg

Buttigieg is a graduate of Harvard University, a Rhodes Scholar, and a veteran of the war in Afghanistan.

Good enough for me, as a start.

[elleng]

63. LOTS of good things about him,

and I thought had great executive experience to serve WELL as DNC chair.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Buttigieg

[Hortensis]

165. Yes. Ignorance and contempt based on it just shouldn't

be so common here. The chair of the DNC has very little big-decision making power, is mostly an administrator. Yes, he's the top guy in charge within the DCN, but the DNC isn't where the big power is. Most important decisions are made by outside powers, particularly the campaigns, which are independent of the DNC, and other big powers, who inform and consult with the DNC about how to get things done.

(How on earth does anyone imagine Brazile became the temporary chair if it were one of the top power positions?)

And of course the chair of the DNC is NOT SUPPOSED to be able to inspire a nation. If he could do that, he'd be ****a candidate****, and some other administrator would be responsible for getting the other 400+ DNC members lined up and organizing debates.

I agree Perez is very bad at delivering catchphrases. but he's very respected by those who know him, and has an impressive record of competence in what he is good at.

But the one who really amuses me is Governor-elect Northam. I often wish candidates were required to campaign with bags over their heads, and he comes closest of anyone I've ever seen to looking, and even sounding, as if he did. I love it! Good for you, Virginia Democrats.

[Glamrock]

130. Uuuhm no

They we're talking about me! Duh!

[question everything]

108. Time to throw awat the "purity test" in general if we ever want to win

something, anything.

I lived in California in the 90s when the Republicans lost all state offices because the winners of the primaries were the one who "stood on principles." Same thing.

Most voters are middle of the road.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

42. Let me guess... he said Dems win when we lead with our values.

[George II]

64. Who is "the Right Person to Lead the DNC"?

[Me.]

89. Dean

[Midwestern Democrat]

100. Someone with more political and/or fundraising experience like virtually all of the past DNC

Chairmen (the ones who served when we didn't hold the White House). I took a look at the biographies of several of our past DNC Chairmen - Larry O'Brien, Bob Strauss, Charles Manatt, Paul Kirk, Ron Brown, Terry McAuliffe, and Howard Dean. And, then I looked at Tom Perez's biography - based on their previous fundraising/political party/campaign roles, I can see why the other men became DNC Chair - but I'm scratching my head trying to figure out the rationale for Tom Perez - indeed, most articles about Perez talk about how he is "new" to party politics and has had a "steep learning curve" - not sure this was the right time in DNC history to have a Chairman who is "New" to party politics.

[SharonAnn]

101. Someone with a better media presence, more commanding speaking style. Sorry but it's important.

Howard Dean did a great job at that. Short, clear points, commanding speaking style, good visual media presence.

It's a shame but that is REALLY important in today's, visual, sound-bite world.

[Atman]

120. THIS

That's all I was saying. Of course no one is voting for Perez, but as head of the party he'll be called upon to represent us on any and every news program...and he has a terrible tv presence. Dean is forceful and strong and demonstrates leadership. Perez? Meh.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. He hasn't much charisma, but being charismatic isn't his job.

Party chairs aren't often seen in public at all; they are administrators. The previous couple of chairs weren't very good at their jobs and the DNC is now broke and in disarray. If Perez can clean up the internal mess I don't care if he looks like a dork on TV.

[Atman]

5. How do you see that happening?

The impression I got from this interview is that I'd be afraid to allow him to babysit my dog.

He WILL be front and center during a campaign year. Fox and MTP and Snuffleupagus will all invite him one precisely because he's an easy mark. Here are your choices...Tom Perez or anyone else. I fear Tom won't come out on top, which means the Democrats won't do well either. The Republicans run slick carnival barkers, and Americans are stupid. I don't see how Perez can help counter them.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

10. Hey, I wanted Keith Ellison to be the chair.

I'm not a huge fan of Perez; I think he's dorky and bland - but people aren't going to be voting for him. The percentage of voters who watch cable news is minuscule so most people will never see him at all, and anyhow, if you like the candidate you aren't going to give a crap if the party chair has the personality of a wet dishrag. If the GOP had made the handsomest and most charismatic character in the world the head of the RNC, I still wouldn't have voted for Trump. I loathed DWS and I still voted for Hillary and all the other Democrats. Perez' primary function is to manage the DNC, not to seduce voters.

[jaysunb]

19. +1 n/t

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

43. It's time to let KE take the reigns... he rocks!

[Demsrule86]

146. Perez did a great job...can you never be happy about a win? WE WON. Keith had his chance and lost

the election...you don't just willy nilly pick a DNC chair. There is a process.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

153. My comment was on Monday... wish I had your psychic powers!! haha

Seriously though, after Tuesday's results, yes, I'm EXTREMELY happy about a win!! Hell, with that, I'm even willing to wait & see how the mid-terms turn out a year from now... maybe you already know?!?! (BTW, you have any Powerball numbers for this Saturday?!)

Okay, you take care... a few more wins like this and we'll be ridin' high again. Wouldn't that be nice?!

[mfcorey1]

154. When is the next election for DNC chair?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

155. No idea... guessin not before the 2018 mid-terms...

While I preferred KE over TP, I do think stability in that office is more important right now than ideology. Other issues, of course, are the internal changes that are being made at the DNC in terms of its future operations.

[Demsrule86]

157. Sorry...should have looked at the date...mea culpa mea maxima culpa...the polls were

mixed before Tuesday. I was very impressed with candidate recruitment...and it looked like everyone worked together well too...fingers crossed for 18. A wide array of candidates were elected across the political spectrum. I will add one caveat...I hate to do it...but we won by what 9 or 10 points and we may get the legislature ...but not for sure...this shows the power of the gerrymander. We need to win big in 18. This is what is really wrong with our Republic...the gerrymander made it so that the House GOP could ignore the will of the people. Maybe we get a wave and that breaks the gerrymander or maybe SCOTUS comes though...very promising anti-gerrymander bill there now...should know in June. I will work my ass off for 18...so important. Again sorry about my post...have a great day!!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

158. No worries Dem, we all make mistakes...

hell, I even thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken!

Seriously, it's no problem at all, though, I am still lookin' for those lottery numbers... haha!!

All the best to you as well Dem... and let's kick some more Rethug azz in 2018!!

[Demsrule86]

159. Amen...let's kick some GOP butt and thanks for your gracious response.

My husband uses the"I thought I was wrong but:...I roll my eyes at him which he hates....not doing it to you though!

[George II]

110. Does anyone even know, without going to google, who the RNC chairman is? I don't.

[woolldog]

7. Ok well maybe he should stay off the TV then.

He may be a good administrator, but can he get someone more charismatic to do TV appearances?

[question everything]

58. Howard Dean had the 50 states strategy that brought the win by Obama

and, to thank him, Obama dismissed him after he won.

[SharonAnn]

102. Being on TV requires good TV presence to be effective.

If he's not good on TV, then he shouldn't be on TV.

[Agschmid]

3. Agree.

I met him 1:1 at an event in Mass. it was clear to me he didn’t give a shit what I was saying.

He needs to go.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

46. I echo your sentiments.

[woolldog]

4. Yeah, I tuned out when he came on

He sounded so uninspiring and cliche.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

8. Did he talk about values? Because I never get tired of that one. nt

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

48. We must LEAD with our values!!! Usually says that in the first sentence.

[Chasstev365]

9. What is the opposite of bold and dynamic?

Tom Perez!

[jalan48]

11. Somebody must have liked him.

[DonaldsRump]

14. That someone was President Obama, I thought? n/t

[jalan48]

16. Obama liked DWS too as I remember.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

23. It was decided that Perez and not Ellison should be the chair because

Ellison is a sitting Representative (mine, actually!), and the thought was that he wouldn't be able to do both. So un-charismatic Perez got the job. Politicians who get elected are the people who have charisma, so if the DNC wanted charisma why did they choose a non-politician who's too boring to be elected to the parks commission? Because they wanted a full-time administrator, I assume.

[shanny]

26. It "was decided?" "They" wanted a full time administrator.

I guess Ellison being willing to give up his seat wasn't good enough.

[R B Garr]

45. What a lame conspiracy.

Luckily Perez does not respond to these nonsense conspiracies.

[shanny]

71. I was objecting to the framing in the previous post, bucko

but thanks for playing.

[R B Garr]

75. Your framing was the tired rigged conspiracy in response.

And it’s a good thing Perez doesn’t make up petty divisive names and games about good Democrats. It looks like one of his assets is that he does not play in divisiveness.

[shanny]

80. Whatever you say. Clearly you know what is in my head better than I do.

I'll look you up next time I'm unsure about anything. Thanks!

[R B Garr]

82. Okay, sorry. The post you responded to was very clear and there wasn't any framing,

but your response was the classic conspiracy about establishment that we've seen so much of since 2015.

[emulatorloo]

62. There was a vote, majority picked Perez. Perez signed up Ellison to help run the DNC

Perez is a solid progressive and very pro-labor.

[shanny]

72. See my response to the previous post

while you are at it, stop making knee-jerk assumptions. you will have more credibility.

[emulatorloo]

77. Could use more clarity I guess. You're assuming people are following your thought processes

That you used to reach a conclusion, but you have not actually described them.

People need to know the steps of how we get from point a to point b.

Otherwise people are likely to misunderstand or misinterpret

Sorta like showing your work on a math problem.

I am guilty of that as well but trying to get better.

Also from what you're saying, your reply was intended as sarcasm aimed at velveteen ocelots framing. Sarcasm is so hard to convey just w text.

I have made sarcastic replies or posted sarcastic articles that got hidden cuz jury thought I was serious.

That's why smilie comes in handy.

[shanny]

81. Thanks.

[emulatorloo]

84. Will edit my post

and remove the ass-umption I made.

Have a good night.

[shanny]

103. Thank you again.

you too

[FSogol]

12. Instead of a competent executive you'd rather have a tv star to

Bicker with pundits and gop shitheads on news-lite shows?

[joshcryer]

13. Yep.

That about sums up our politics.

[Atman]

17. No, but thanks for playing.

I'd like to see a competent executive who can hold his own in a very real bullshit tv environment. You know full well that Perez will be invited on every tv show as soon as the talk show producers figure out that he's an easy mark. He will be out there representing the DNC. That's his job. He hasn't started out very well.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

51. Yes, the two concepts are NOT mutually exclusive.

[cilla4progress]

86. Hello.

See “Barack Obama.”

Too much to ask for?

[FSogol]

99. LOL, I forget, when did Obama run the DNC?

[cilla4progress]

105. President is titular head

of his party.

[FSogol]

106. That doesn't make him the head of the DNC.

[SirBrockington]

31. Thats who beat 17 Reps

And is currently president. Democrats win when they have charismatic leaders (Kennedy, B Clinton, Obama)or direct no nonsense leaders (LBJ).

We don’t win with uncharismatic and/or mileqtoast leaders. The go along to get along types get massacred vs Republicans, and have consistently within the past 30 years.

[FSogol]

33. Perez isnt running for office, he's a manager.

[Atman]

40. So, when you have a bad experience and want to talk to the manager...

is THIS the guy you want to talk to?

[R B Garr]

50. He is a wonderful breath of fresh air after listening

to that hostile creep Jeff Weaver, who has resurfaced to embrace Donna Brazile and bashing Democrats.

[Thrill]

56. Its about messaging. You have to reach the idiots out there. And thats what it takes

[Yupster]

114. About that competent executive

The biggest thing I know about Tom Perez is he wrote the "Fiduciary Rule" which has turned my job into a bowl of spaghetti.

My job now consists of pointlessly clicking computer boxes to satisfy this new rule for hours at a time. I'm working Saturdays for the first time in 15 years. My customers have had their prices rise, and their options lessen, and whatever the goal of this rule was at the beginning has been hopelessly lost in the tangled bowl of spaghetti that has become its implementation.

Competent executive? That's not anything I've ever seen from Tom Perez. If he tangles The DNC up with rules like he's done to us, the DNC won't even get to campaigns. It will spend its time checking boxes of reports from one department to another until the best people give up and quit and the comfortable burocrats happily stay.

[SaschaHM]

15. To be fair, Reince Priebus had the charisma of a dead fish... and the Republicans have been winning.

We need competency at the top and Charisma when it comes to the politicians that should be doing the selling.

[Atman]

18. Rinse Pubis got fired long ago.

Just sayin'. Tom Perez is still on the job.

[BannonsLiver]

20. Priebus wasnt fired from the RNC

He left that job to be in trump’s White House, a move he no doubt regrets.

[Atman]

24. Correct. My bad.

Nothing else to say.

[emulatorloo]

41. So maybe you should give Perez a break

[Atman]

44. No.

My mistake in regards to Rinse Pubis's stepping down has nothing to do with the reality of Tom Perez train wreck at the DNC.

[emulatorloo]

49. You insist Perez be "charasmatic" and you've been shown charisma is not a requirement to do an

effective job. If you want "entertainment" maybe DWS should come back, because as incompetent as she was at her job she was an entertaining tv guest

[Atman]

52. And maybe that's why Democrats keep losing.

We don't concern ourselves with trivial matters such as whether or not anyone, even in our own party, likes us.

[emulatorloo]

59. As others have told you, Perez is a manager. He's not a Democratic politician running for office.

I am not sure you understand what the DNC actually does. Good twitter thread from Joy Reid which explains DNC's job. Gonna grab you a link, a quick read.

https://mobile.twitter.com/JoyAnnReid/status/926329971588714496

And by the way:

57. Actually the Democrats have been WINNING many state and local races lately.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=9807398

[moda253]

109. I can't keep up with your flipping and flopping in this thread.

You say one thing and then when given an example to the contrary you spin a different angle. Maybe you don't have to be completely right?

[Atman]

117. I have no idea what you're talking about.

How have I flip-flopped? I'm as solid a Democrat as you'll ever meet. I just finished working on minority outreach for the Northam campaign in VA. I'm just saying that Perez is not a good spokesman for the party. I've been pretty consistent on this point. He's lining the DNC with pro-corporatists and purging the progressives...and he is horrible on television. Am I wrong?

[Demsrule86]

145. Democrats won last night...and you saw the power of the gerrymander...we won by 9 points and yet the

Assembly is on the edge could go either way. We will win, and we will do it on our own terms and ignore the constant whining by some.
You complain about charisma which is meaningless. It seems to me that some here need to learn about elections and how they really work...not saying you specifically. But clearly people don't understand the DNC chair's role. He did a superb job yesterday. I am very pleased.

[SaschaHM]

22. Priebus became Chief of Staff and before that he oversaw the GOP climb back to power.

He wasn't fired for his efforts. He was given one of the most influential jobs in a normal presidency.

[bigtree]

21. blaming losses, so far, under Perez is bullshit

...the few races held under his term aren't indicative of ANYTHING.

If your talking about some poll in some upcoming contest, then you're just trolling the party.

I'd ask just what you think a post like this accomplishes?

THIS is drivel.

[coolsandy]

107. I agree. Why don't we give him support and help. Easy to criticize when you are not doing a damn

thing to help. Perez is honest, smart, and devoted. I have no problem with him.

[GulfCoast66]

25. Guess you want him carrying on about Millionaires and Billionaires?

He is not running for office but trying to create an organization that can rival the RNC which means organizing and money. Lots of money.

It is someone else’s job to get votes.

[Atman]

27. "It is someone elses job to get votes."

Really? I'm recalling a certain kerfuffle about a recent DNC chair who...oh, never mind.

[shanny]

28. so...is his job sucking up to said millionaires and billionaires?

Is that why he shouldn't carry on about them? Might hurt their feelings?

[R B Garr]

35. Whats the dollar limit to not get insulted?

If I donate $900,000, do I get insulted, or not? Or sucked up to? This arbitrary insulting is really worn out and has lost nationally.

[emulatorloo]

38. Such binary thinking. Btw DNC doesn't set policy, not their job.

If you think there aren't progressive-minded millionaires then you probably should not embarrass yourself anymore.. Bernie's a millionaire. FDR had a gazillion dollars as did Teddy Kennedy. Some folks have a strong feeling of fairness no matter how much money they have.

[shanny]

70. Speaking of embarrassing yourself, you must have a short memory.

[emulatorloo]

73. Cute but no sale

Remember even you said you were confused at looking at who was posting at who on your phone.

Ass-umming there are no liberal or progressive minded wealthy people isn't a small-screen viewing error.

[shanny]

78. You sound a little defensive.

Were you on your phone?

[emulatorloo]

87. Tablet but I am old lol

Eyes are shit

[R B Garr]

90. Your eyes are fine. You read that correctly.

Buzzwords like millionaires and billionaires are the unmistakeable shorthand, as we know well. No denying it.

Agreed about lots of good progressive millionaires and billionaires. No need to insult people for tired slogans.

[emulatorloo]

92. Nah has to do w me getting confused w who was replying to who in another thread the other day

All those little lines you get in a subthread

[R B Garr]

93. Well, your response was correct about millionaires

and billionaires, anyway.

[Amaryllis]

29. ANd then there is the fact that hardly anything has been done to secure our elections; how many

watched Frontline on Putin's manipulation, or have listened to Adam Schiff, etc. on Rachel talking about how little has been done. I was wondering if Perez even factors this in. Not that he can really do anything about it.

[SirBrockington]

32. Talking about it

And putting it into the National conversation at least would be enough. He’s another nice guy

[emulatorloo]

36. That's not the DNC's job. They fundraise, they support candidates, they put on the convention

[elleng]

67. YES!

[democrank]

30. I miss Howard.

And the 50-state strategy. And the old Democratic Party.

[SirBrockington]

34. Indeed

But Dems see to cannabalize strong personalities and promote repeated losers.

I made a post months ago asking how a person that lost in 84 on Jesse Jackson’s campaign, was involved in scandal against G HWB and got fired from Dukakis’ campaign, lost to GWB as head of Gores team focusing on “earth tones”, ended up once again being in a position of leadership as head of DNC. No accountability related to results. Republicans keep their winners around. Guys like Manafort, Roger Stone, Ailes...they were “winning” elections on Nixon’s campaign and they just keep being recycled. Cheney, all of them, like zombies they just keep coming back and seem to live to damn near 100.

[Duppers]

116. Amen!!

[SirBrockington]

37. I was bored watching him

Switched over to CNN. He got asked how he would deal with the ongoing cultural wars that had been successful and kind of pivoted to a message of “people are worried about jobs, about health care, about....”. Stfu. “PEOPLE” are caught up in stupid trivial ass shit like emails, Swift boats, and who invented the internet and stupid shit shouldn’t be ignored w/re to what “American people” care about. Those issues need to be addressed head on.

[Polly Hennessey]

39. Boy, do I agree with you.

Three seconds in I muted the sound. Everyone keeps saying he is a great manager. So far have not seen it. He simply does not do well on TV.

[Catch2.2]

47. I agree 100%

Tom Perez was a horrible pick!

[Thrill]

53. The DNC needed Dean badly

[elleng]

68. THEN, yes,

but he's lost it.

[Demsrule86]

147. Well they won't get him...they had their chance, nor will they get Ellison...it is a done deal so

just stop.

[LBM20]

57. Actually the Democrats have been WINNING many state and local races lately.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

65. The fact that we have no tv ad campaign against

Trump is unfathomable. It is a virtual treasure trove.

[George II]

66. It's Chris Hayes, not "Chris Haye's".

[elleng]

69. Chris Hayes' show.

[lunamagica]

74. If you had seen him yesterday on Univision, you'd feel even worse...

Not just the lack of charisma...he was unable to answer the questions. To say he speaks Spanish would be laughable, but instead of using a translator he went on with his terrible "Spanish", and he went on tangents over and over again. It was both embarrassing and infuriating.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

76. Inspiring as a cold noodle that needs to clear its throat.

And either shave that rat fuzz or let it grow out!

Other than that, what a leader. What a guy.

[Hamlette]

79. he was bad, I hope someone explains to him why

[LisaM]

83. Reince Priebus has no on-air appeal.

Let's hold off on judging for now and see what happens tomorrow for starters.

[summer_in_TX]

85. Feckless too

An acquaintance texted me today wondering where the DNC's substantive media release following yesterday's mass shooting in the Sutherland Springs church. She asked "Where is the Dem party's media release regarding (1) his [Trump's] continuing poor judgement [attacking Obama policies supersedes public good] that does endanger public safety and (2) that his meaningless words deceive when they conflict with his actions that do count."

All I could find from him was the equivalent of the GOP's thoughts and prayers. Did we miss something?

[NCTraveler]

148. Press release from today.

https://www.democrats.org/Post/dnc-statement-on-aapi-candidate-victories-across-the-country

It’s actually not too bad.

Another press release from today.

https://www.democrats.org/Post/dnc-on-historic-latino-victories

https://www.democrats.org/Post/dnc-investments-in-african-american-community-key-to-historic-election-nigh

https://www.democrats.org/Post/dnc-on-millennial-wins-in-virginia-and-new-jersey

Some more as well from today. This one is from the third. I like it.

https://www.democrats.org/Post/tom-perez-on-october-jobs-report

[RKP5637]

88. I've not been impressed with him. n/t

[Snackshack]

91. KE

Would have been much better but he did not have the right backing for the job...

[lancelyons]

94. Perez is not the candidate.

The candidate is where the connection is made with the voter. Perez is to organize fund raise, grass roots, core messaging. With that said he can always be more charismatic.

[SoCalDem]

95. he is not inspirational or telegenic

Keith Ellison should have been selected..

[moda253]

112. Well I live in MN and I'd rather have him focused on his JOB!

[doc03]

97. I agree he has all the charisma of a ham sandwich nt

[treestar]

98. Who is the head of the RNC?

Why does everyone have to have charisma?

[George II]

104. I find it very interesting that the day before Election Day we see all these OPs pop up....

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...criticizing the Chairman of the DNC.

What are you going to do today to GOTV? Make phone calls, drive elderly to the polls, work the polls, etc.? What did you do this campaign season to encourage people to get out and vote for Democrats?

[moda253]

113. Yup and Noticing many of them have low post totals

Oh don't let my comment on low post totals destroy your e-peen low post totalers. I have a low post count too.

Just noticing that some of the harshest are relatively new.

[peggysue2]

118. Hmmmmm

Interesting is it not? The week/weekend before and even the day of an election, a flood of OP's criticizing Dems on a Dem site.

Coinky-Dink?

Only there's no such thing as coincidence in politics.

GOVOTE! Massively. Make the critics eat their words.

[Atman]

122. 30,780 is now considered a low post count?

Wow. I better step up my game.

[Atman]

121. I worked on minority outreach for the Northam campaign.

What did you do?

[George II]

123. We only have local elections this year, but I've worked on the campaigns since August. I'm also....

....an officer of our local Democratic Committee (for ten years), and have been active in getting out the vote in all of our elections (State, District, and local) since 2005, and have run for office six times (four wins, two losses) I could go on but you get the idea.

I support all of our Democratic candidates and Party leaders, I don't criticize them a day or two before Election Day.

[Atman]

124. I only criticized Tom Perez a day or two before the election because...

...that's when Tom Perez came on the air and nearly put me to sleep. If you think my crit of Perez on DU was going to sway any election, that's your own issue. It is a fair criticism, to which the volume of responses to thread attest.

[Demsrule86]

149. Got it...never mind that he presided over the biggest election win in Virginian in history...a

good DNC chair will keep you awake...priorities and all.

[lagomorph777]

111. DNC Chair needs to be an administrator; not necessarily an evangelist.

But we definitely lack charismatic leaders with a coordinated theme. How can we help them get it together?

And THANK YOU for your work in VA. I just voted; it seemed fairly busy for an off-year. (NoVA)

[Duppers]

115. Glad I'm not the only who thought this.

Almost had to turn the channel.

[mvd]

119. Even as a Sanders guy, I think Buttigieg would have brought..

a fresh approach and energy that I am not sure even Ellison could bring. Managing is most important, but you also have to project a positive image based on the media scrutiny.

[Demsrule86]

150. And this is what this is all about...Perez is not a Sander's man...well too bad so sad...he is

doing a great job.

[Gothmog]

125. Yeah for Tom Perez and the DLCC

Link to tweet

[mucifer]

126. You might want to eat those words. That's a good thing ;)

[Atman]

127. Might.

Not likely. It was a good night for us, but I don't see that Perez had much to do with it.

[MFM008]

128. well for a change were NOT LOSING

this is what SHOULD have happened last year.
We cant always get what we want.
It is what it is.
Now we need containment until 1 year from yesterday.
November 6 2018.

[Skittles]

129. WE'RE NOT LOSING

[bigtree]

131. lol

[JI7]

132. people don't vote based on how PArty CHair appears on TV

[OnDoutside]

133. In light of last night's results, I'll happy take more of this "uninspired drivel" !!! ;)

[ehrnst]

134. Well, we won big last night didn't we? I think Congratulations are in order. (nt)

[Demsrule86]

151. Indeed...best candidate recruitment I have seen in years...moderates

and liberals working together to elect all sorts of Democrats. It was fucking inspiring. This is how it is supposed to work...after a primary you come together and elect the Democrat...shout out to Perriello, who was magnificent...hope he runs for a house seat or something.

[Gothmog]

135. From Tom Perez

Link to tweet

[Drunken Irishman]

136. lol yeah no wonder Democrats are losing!!!!!!!!!

He says the day after their biggest election victories since 2012.

[Atman]

137. Uhm...no. I posted this a couple of days ago.

After a totally lackluster and uninspiring performance on Chris Hayes' show.

I watched him last night after Northam's win (a campaign on which I worked) and saw a very different Tom Perez. He was energized and enthusiastic. Let's hope he can keep it up.

[Drunken Irishman]

138. Well there you go - silly to make a judgement call off one performance...

Good thing people don't do that or we would've had Pres. Romney after the first presidential debate in 2012.

[Atman]

139. I made a comment on the performance I saw.

It wasn't silly at all. Just look at all the other comments in this thread which are in agreement with what I saw. We don't know what Perez is going to do tomorrow. But I'm a Democrat and I will back the Democrats, and I will also not hesitate to speak out when I believe our party leadership is failing us. Obviously, last night was a bright spot for us. I'm particularly happy because I worked on minority outreach for Northam. It was a great night! Let's keep it up.

[Drunken Irishman]

141. Na'. It was a silly comment.

It's okay to own it. You were wrong. Don't be like Trump and refuse to admit it.

[Atman]

142. Judging by the number of responses in agreement...

...I'm quite confident it was not a silly comment. But thanks for your observation.

[Demsrule86]

152. Oh please...plenty still upset that Sen. Sander's guy Keith Ellison didn't win ...they don't like

Perez even if he wins elections...because winning isn't that important to them I guess...who the hell knows. They will always go against Perez...no rhyme or reason.

[Atman]

161. I don't care about Keith Ellison one way or another.

I was commenting solely on Perez's performance DAYS ago, two days before the Tuesday election. Neither Keith Ellison nor Bernie Sanders have the slightest thing to do with my comment. Nothing. But thanks for playing.

[Demsrule86]

164. Well if if you say so...but there wasn't anyway to judge him before Tuesday...

In my opinion, he did a great job.

[LanternWaste]

160. Your premise was not a comment, but rather a logical fallacy

Your original premise was not a comment, but rather a logical fallacy (post hoc ergo prompter hoc), and yet lacked any objective evidence to support it as well.

Little more than just another bumper sticker in a long, long line of bumper stickers. But hey... if bumper stickers as a go-to philosophy is your thing, "keep on truckin!"

[Atman]

162. I needed "objective evidence" to support my personal opinion?

Since when? I just stated my opinion about Perez's performance on Chris Haye's show. Your "objective evidence" might be all of the people on this flaming thread who agreed with me.

It's now two days after thee very successful Tuesday election. I fared quite well, having worked on Northam's campaign. But there was no "logical fallacy," nor was there any objective evidence to present. It was merely my opinion, just as your response was your opinion not backed by any objective evidence.

[Gothmog]

140. Fox host melts down as DNC chairman Perez gloats over Tuesday's big election wins

[mucifer]

156. wow he kicked ass!

[Gothmog]

163. I was proud of how Perez handled that fox news idiot

[Demsrule86]

143. Ok...first of all...he did a great job last night...so who cares what you think.

[VermontKevin]

144. This aged well.