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OMG I am going to love it if Trump is brought down by that dimwit Carter Page. (Original Post) Drunken Irishman Nov 2017 OP
Sound like page is the squealer. Kablooie Nov 2017 #1
That's Dimwit Carter Page, PhD to you! LisaM Nov 2017 #2
Otherwise known as Doctor Dimwit...nt GReedDiamond Nov 2017 #4
Yes! LisaM Nov 2017 #21
Or, more informally, Jar Jar JHB Nov 2017 #26
He's proof that any imbecile can get a PhD NastyRiffraff Nov 2017 #22
How does Page hurt Trump? Cicada Nov 2017 #3
by giving evidence of crimes? whathehell Nov 2017 #5
Evidence of crime doesnt hurt Trump Cicada Nov 2017 #9
You don't seem to understand that this isn't about an election.. whathehell Nov 2017 #12
He will not be found guilty Cicada Nov 2017 #14
You're free to think that.. whathehell Nov 2017 #17
As Alan Simpson said I remember where I was during the Saturday night massacre Cicada Nov 2017 #19
As I said.. whathehell Nov 2017 #25
The election last night ups odds youre right Cicada Nov 2017 #28
Republicans were pro Nixon until the Saturday Night Massacre NewJeffCT Nov 2017 #27
Impeachment is a political process, not a BootinUp Nov 2017 #20
It is Constitutional... whathehell Nov 2017 #24
I don't think Mueller particularlly cares what trump voters think. Neither does the law. brush Nov 2017 #8
Page is just one person, not many care about him Cicada Nov 2017 #10
Not quite. Page matters because he's a small fish who might lead to bigger fish being caught... brush Nov 2017 #11
Page is also possibly a Russian agent DeminPennswoods Nov 2017 #18
cia woundedkarma Nov 2017 #6
What is it about that perpetual smile on Page's face? Laffy Kat Nov 2017 #7
Doctor, Doctor.... ksoze Nov 2017 #13
Please come CAPTION today's favorite nitwit. skip fox Nov 2017 #15
He is definitely in the running mcar Nov 2017 #16
Interesting how the only Trumpster telling some of the truth is labeled the village idiot. L. Coyote Nov 2017 #23
That's one bad hat, Carter njhoneybadger Nov 2017 #29

Kablooie

(18,610 posts)
1. Sound like page is the squealer.
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 03:30 AM
Nov 2017

I heard that Manafort and Flynn don't have any new information that Mueller wants so no plea deal is possible for them. They are going down for holding out.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
22. He's proof that any imbecile can get a PhD
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 02:10 PM
Nov 2017

I wonder how the House Intel Committee could hold back their guffaws.

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
3. How does Page hurt Trump?
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 03:54 AM
Nov 2017

Trump voters would applaud Russia interfering to defeat Hillary.

Trump wants Muslims and other minorities to go to hell. That is why so many white people voted for Trump. What was his campaign? Build the wall, stop the rapists and murderers from coming here. End of story.

whathehell

(29,034 posts)
5. by giving evidence of crimes?
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 05:08 AM
Nov 2017

Mueller's investigation isn't about "what Trump voters want".

If it finds Trump obstructed justice or committed other crimes, he's over. That's the end of the story.

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
9. Evidence of crime doesnt hurt Trump
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 07:56 AM
Nov 2017

There was evidence Clinton obstructed justice in the Monica Lewinsky case. That didn’t cause me to stop supporting him. So too Trump supporters will not care if Mueller says Trump obstructed justice or colluded with Russia. And Trump will not be convicted. Just one pro trump juror needs to say not guilty.

Now maybe these problems will combine with others to cause fewer people in Pa, Ohio, Wisconsin, Michigan, Florida to vote Trump in 2020. That is the only thing that matters. Trump in jail or not only concerns one person. A Repub or Dem president concerns the lives of tens of millions.

whathehell

(29,034 posts)
12. You don't seem to understand that this isn't about an election..
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 08:18 AM
Nov 2017

It's about the force if LAW...If a president is found guilty of."high crimes and misdemeanors" he gets IMPEACHED and very likely convicted -- This is a matter concerning espionage and felonious acts -- It's on a completely different level, one FAR more serious than lying about an affair.

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
14. He will not be found guilty
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 09:46 AM
Nov 2017

It is hardly clear that colluding with Russia is a crime. Some jurisprudes say yes, some say no. But if Trump goes to trial there is very likely going to be at least one Trump cultist on thjury who says not guilty. And the Republicans are no more likely to impeach Trump than they are to admit Global Warming is dangerous instead of a wonderful blessing.

So forget the rule of law being defended here. That ain’t gonna happen. But what can happen, with luck, is that we can return the federal govt to the hands of relative righteousness. And that should be our realistic goal and hope.

whathehell

(29,034 posts)
17. You're free to think that..
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 10:51 AM
Nov 2017

but please forgive me if I don't just take your word for it, lol I think
that if he did not, like Nixon, resign first, he would be convicted.

I was around for Watergate, so along with some other things, I think my political acumen may be a bit more "honed".than yours.

Have a nice day.

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
19. As Alan Simpson said I remember where I was during the Saturday night massacre
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 12:26 PM
Nov 2017

Republicans felt that supporting Nixon would hurt them. Republicans today know because of Jeff Flake and others that attacking Trump is political suicide. The politics today are completely different. And Republicans after Newt have become far more craven. Now being craven is the only way they can win elections.

And back then we had a shared reality. We had 3 networks and NPR telling us things, facts, which almost all of us agreed were true. Now when people are asked - who do you believe, Trump or your lying eyes - many pick Trump.

It’s a different political world.

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
28. The election last night ups odds youre right
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 08:08 AM
Nov 2017

I sure hope you’re right and l’m wrong. And last gives me some hope that you’re smarter than I am.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
27. Republicans were pro Nixon until the Saturday Night Massacre
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 07:50 AM
Nov 2017

they supported him through the early stages of Watergate. The bigger difference now is that Republicans control the House and Senate. Back in 1973 and 1974, Democrats had bigger margins than Republicans do now.

brush

(53,741 posts)
8. I don't think Mueller particularlly cares what trump voters think. Neither does the law.
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 06:03 AM
Nov 2017

Not-quite-the-sharpest-knife-in-the-drawer Page has openly incriminated himself in admitting in interviews that he met and conspired/colluded with Russian government officials while working for the trump campaign, and even emailed others about his efforts.

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
10. Page is just one person, not many care about him
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 08:00 AM
Nov 2017

All that matters is whether all this drives enough voters away from Trump so a Democrat becomes President.

brush

(53,741 posts)
11. Not quite. Page matters because he's a small fish who might lead to bigger fish being caught...
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 08:09 AM
Nov 2017

Last edited Tue Nov 7, 2017, 04:02 PM - Edit history (1)

Mueller is moving up the ladder. Page is one wrung on it.

More voters for us is good but I want these traitors jailed.

DeminPennswoods

(15,265 posts)
18. Page is also possibly a Russian agent
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 10:53 AM
Nov 2017

Remember he was being investigated for being a Russian spy before he even joined the Trump campaign.

 

woundedkarma

(498 posts)
6. cia
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 05:36 AM
Nov 2017

I think Carter Page is CIA :>

He has way too much knowledge. Has led them directly to mass failure although they were all pushing there as hard as possible. He just spouts it off, no need for a lawyer.

If not CIA...

Well, there is just something very very wrong about him.

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