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John McCain doesn't equivocate, when it comes to Roy Moore. (Original Post) Siwsan Nov 2017 OP
Jones! lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #1
It will be MOST interesting to see how this plays out Siwsan Nov 2017 #3
What about the allegations against Trumpy? Just locker room talk or should he resign too? FSogol Nov 2017 #2
I'd like to think there would EVENTUALLY be a tipping point Siwsan Nov 2017 #6
He's found god. SergeStorms Nov 2017 #40
+1000000! SammyWinstonJack Nov 2017 #37
The fact that they are quick to condemn him makes me think, internal polling for him is SweetieD Nov 2017 #4
Makes sense to me elfin Nov 2017 #5
that's exactly what I was thinking gopiscrap Nov 2017 #8
Exactly. Publicly released polls have not been that great for Moore. eppur_se_muova Nov 2017 #17
You nailed it. I hope he stays though because we will win. Alice11111 Nov 2017 #22
If true is not condemnation Nevernose Nov 2017 #38
When is this election? moda253 Nov 2017 #7
December justiceischeap Nov 2017 #9
Thanks! moda253 Nov 2017 #14
12-12-17 sarah FAILIN Nov 2017 #13
Luther Strange can be written in on the election day of 12/12/17. irisblue Nov 2017 #10
When this happens don't they count the previously printed as the step in as well? moda253 Nov 2017 #15
From FindLaw.com. Alabama Title 17. Elections 17-6-28 irisblue Nov 2017 #20
Chaos. I love it. Maybe, it will split the vote. As Bannon said, you Alice11111 Nov 2017 #23
I noticed McTurtle said, "if they can be proven". On the one hand that sounds perfectly reasonable. Guy Whitey Corngood Nov 2017 #11
My contrary thought was... KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2017 #25
Love the Cpt. Bonespurs, but shouldn't it really be Private Bonespurs? GoneOffShore Nov 2017 #26
"Captain America called me and personally promoted me. That I can tell you. Beliiiiiieve me!" nt Guy Whitey Corngood Nov 2017 #36
Hah! GoneOffShore Nov 2017 #39
How would it be proven? IronLionZion Nov 2017 #33
I guess that's what I clumsily meant to say. They'll try to paint her as a liar and then Guy Whitey Corngood Nov 2017 #35
Roy Moore needs to be behind bars. nt oasis Nov 2017 #12
hey john, he sounds like a perfect republican candidate...just like trump spanone Nov 2017 #16
Donald stepped in teenage contestants of Miss Teen Universe locker rooms while they were undressing Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #18
People in politics, especially judges, mac56 Nov 2017 #19
No way he steps away. Many Trumpists are racists and perverts. kairos12 Nov 2017 #21
Moore doesnt have to take this - he should... lame54 Nov 2017 #24
A democrat in AL, wow Motley13 Nov 2017 #27
How can anyone expect homophobic, bible beating, racists to not love their Messiah? olegramps Nov 2017 #28
I realize that there are Democrat perverts but how come repuke predators still get Doreen Nov 2017 #29
Moore might..might have a chance if it was one, but it is 4 or 5. Stuart G Nov 2017 #30
"Proud of?" What? It's Alabamer, where the motto is, "Old enough to pee, old enough for me!" TheBlackAdder Nov 2017 #31
Ten years ago he would have. AtheistCrusader Nov 2017 #32
Good. dalton99a Nov 2017 #34

Siwsan

(26,257 posts)
6. I'd like to think there would EVENTUALLY be a tipping point
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 04:26 PM
Nov 2017

I keep wondering and trying to work out how someone could POSSIBLY think it acceptable to support someone with trump*'s background and reputation. I got nothing.

SergeStorms

(19,192 posts)
40. He's found god.
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 07:23 PM
Nov 2017

Yes, Trump is a "saved" man now. His play-guy ways are all behind him now, yes sireee!

Republicans are the biggest hypocrites in the world. It's not a problem as long as you're a Republican. Jebus will always forgive a Republican (but NOT a Democrat), because Jebus is a Republican himself. Just ask any of them!

SweetieD

(1,660 posts)
4. The fact that they are quick to condemn him makes me think, internal polling for him is
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 04:23 PM
Nov 2017

bad, really bad. Maybe in light of Tuesday's results, they want something to blame other than the fact that the republican agenda is garbage..in case Moore loses. they will blame it on these allegations and the fact that he he should have stepped aside.

elfin

(6,262 posts)
5. Makes sense to me
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 04:26 PM
Nov 2017

Either that or many repubs already knew it was probably true from past rumors and would play out that way. Didn't make them bring it up before to keep him off the ticket, though.

eppur_se_muova

(36,257 posts)
17. Exactly. Publicly released polls have not been that great for Moore.
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 04:45 PM
Nov 2017
http://local15tv.com/news/local/doug-jones-still-trails-roy-moore-in-senate-race Scroll to the bottom.

Among *registered* voters, Fox's poll found a dead-even race. Most polls put Moore ahead among *likely* voters. The average is ~6 pts. That was before the allegations came out, obviously.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
22. You nailed it. I hope he stays though because we will win.
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 05:19 PM
Nov 2017

That's exactly why the Repubs will take him off the ticket.
It kind of dents bannon's credibility too.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
38. If true is not condemnation
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 07:01 PM
Nov 2017

John McCain managed to say the right thing, but the rest of the GOP seems to be pretending like Moore doesn’t even exist. They’re all still backing President Pussy-Grabber, I doubt they’ll stop backing Senator Hypocritical-Jesus-Freak.

https://splinternews.com/fuck-the-gops-cowardly-if-true-roy-moore-statements-1820304588

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
9. December
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 04:29 PM
Nov 2017

and the ballots are already printed, so even if he stepped aside, he’d still be on the ballot.

irisblue

(32,958 posts)
10. Luther Strange can be written in on the election day of 12/12/17.
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 04:31 PM
Nov 2017

The ballots already have Moores' name on them.

irisblue

(32,958 posts)
20. From FindLaw.com. Alabama Title 17. Elections 17-6-28
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 05:06 PM
Nov 2017

::::disclaimer. I am not an attorney, I do not live in Alabama. All research is from google. I do believe alot of Alabama lawyers are right now reviewing the statutes and will be up very late tonight. This will be very interesting to watch. ::::: Write-in votes shall be permitted only in non-municipal general elections.  The ballot must be constructed so that the voter can mark a write-in vote for each office in the same manner that votes are registered for regular candidates.  In order to cast a valid write-in vote, the voter must (1) write the name on the ballot and (2) register the vote by a mark in the space designated for that office.  A write-in vote shall not be counted if the vote is not registered as provided above.  If a voter registers a vote for a name on the ballot and then writes in another name for the same office but fails to register the write-in vote, the ballot shall be treated as if no write-in vote had occurred and the regular vote shall be counted.  If a properly registered write-in vote causes an over-vote, it shall be treated as any other over-vote and none of the votes for the over-voted office shall be counted.  However, the remainder of the ballot shall be counted.  When counting write-in votes, poll officials must check for over-votes if the electronic ballot counter does not perform the function.


Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
23. Chaos. I love it. Maybe, it will split the vote. As Bannon said, you
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 05:26 PM
Nov 2017

Can't believe it because WaPo broke the story, and it's owned by a liberal.

It has 300 fact checkers!

Wow, if we could take back Alabama for a 6 yr Senate term, it would be a sea change.

If the Repubs have any sense, they will take Moore off.

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,500 posts)
11. I noticed McTurtle said, "if they can be proven". On the one hand that sounds perfectly reasonable.
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 04:32 PM
Nov 2017

On the other. Like Cpt. Bonespurs, all they have to do is saying she's a lying such and such. It's just too damn bad they cannot be proven.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,489 posts)
25. My contrary thought was...
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 05:35 PM
Nov 2017

if the allegations were disproven, then Moore could even see a poll rebound.

Are there any formal charges brought against him? Maybe one of these ladies has a tape or photos.

IronLionZion

(45,410 posts)
33. How would it be proven?
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 06:28 PM
Nov 2017

There are so many ways to cast doubt on any witnesses or evidence since it was so long ago.

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,500 posts)
35. I guess that's what I clumsily meant to say. They'll try to paint her as a liar and then
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 06:52 PM
Nov 2017

go "No evidence. Nothing to see here. But had it been "proven" then we'd be outraged like the "family men" we are.

mac56

(17,566 posts)
19. People in politics, especially judges,
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 04:50 PM
Nov 2017

are people of often unchecked power and influence. That alone is sufficient to suppress the truth for decades, especially when the victims were children, as I’m sure anyone should be able to understand.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
28. How can anyone expect homophobic, bible beating, racists to not love their Messiah?
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 05:43 PM
Nov 2017

They dream of the return of the good ole days of Robert E Lee, whipping staves and selling cotton.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
29. I realize that there are Democrat perverts but how come repuke predators still get
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 05:46 PM
Nov 2017

elected when they do it but Democrats get thrown to the lions? Maybe I am just prejudice but it seems like there are more repuke predators than Democrat predators.

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
30. Moore might..might have a chance if it was one, but it is 4 or 5.
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 05:51 PM
Nov 2017

The others were 17 and 18. I guess, someone might call one a liar, but 4 or 5 to take a chance and accuse leading politician of sexual activity like this.. a judge at that, takes courage. Moore is done, he may not know it, but he is done, burnt to a crisp.

And he will resign. 4 weeks to the election. What will be discussed for 4 weeks?
guess what?.............Are these women telling the truth?
..................Who do you believe, the women or the judge?
..................Oh, this judge defied the Supreme Court?...wait, isn't that against the law? Isn't it in the Constitution that the Supreme Court is the decider of the law?..

.......If he deified the Supreme Court, what is to keep him from defying other laws?..

...............oops...Roy Moore got caught..for all to see.......end of argument....even McCain says "get out"
Didn't McConnell say the same? almost?

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