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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo now they bring Jesus, Mary and Joseph into the Moore thing:
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HipChick
(25,485 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,181 posts)Canoe52
(2,948 posts)bearsfootball516
(6,376 posts)JDC
(10,122 posts)greymattermom
(5,754 posts)I think that's what this means.
Kingofalldems
(38,444 posts)Don't know what the Baptists believe about Joseph and Mary.
ATL Ebony
(1,097 posts)Regarding the Virgin Mary, Baptists are definitely taught this doctrine.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)The Immaculate Conception is a Catholic doctrine that says Mary was conceived without sexual intercourse (original sin). Jesus' birth is under the doctrine of the Virgin Birth. The Immaculate Conception is almost exclusively Catholic, while the Virgin Birth is an article of faith more generally believed in Christendom, though not all Christians believe in it or think it all that crucial to the Jesus story.
ATL Ebony
(1,097 posts)As a Baptist it's been drilled into me since childhood. Curious to learn about who you're referring to in your statement.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,315 posts)Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,315 posts)Immaculate conception = the conception of Mary by her parents, in which they had sex but the taint of original sin was removed so Mary would be a flawless vessel to carry Jesus.
Virgin birth = Mary's pregnancy of Jesus, who was conceived without intercourse.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)Same place where I keep records of the debate about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.
ATL Ebony
(1,097 posts)pnwmom
(108,973 posts)The Catholic Church's doctrine is that all people are born with Original Sin -- the sin of Adam and Eve, disobeying God -- but Mary was free of it. Mary was the Immaculate Conception.
Jesus, according to the Church, was the result of a Virgin Birth, with no human father.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immaculate_Conception
The Immaculate Conception, according to the teaching of the Catholic Church, is the conception of the Blessed Virgin Mary free from original sin by virtue of the foreseen merits of her son Jesus Christ. The Catholic Church teaches that Mary was conceived by normal biological means in the womb of her mother, Saint Anne, but God acted upon her soul, keeping it "immaculate".
The Immaculate Conception is commonly confused with the Virgin Birth of Jesus. Jesus's birth is covered by the Doctrine of Incarnation, while the Immaculate Conception deals with the conception of Mary, not that of her son.
Original sin - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_sin
Original sin, also called ancestral sin, is the Christian doctrine of humanity's state of sin resulting from the fall of man, stemming from Adam and Eve's rebellion in Eden, namely the sin of disobedience in consuming from the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
Laffy Kat
(16,376 posts)But I thought it was Mary that was the immaculate conception. That it was Jesus' mother who was born free from original sin. I'm confused about this. I have seen it both with Mary and regarding Jesus.
Not that this matters in the least. It's all myth to me and Roy Moore is TOAST, hahahahaha.
Mariana
(14,854 posts)She had sex with Joseph after Jesus was born.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)keithbvadu2
(36,731 posts)As practiced by Christians, the Bible is like a buffet... Pick the parts you like and ignore the rest.
wryter2000
(46,031 posts)You win the internet.
madashelltoo
(1,696 posts)And?!!!
Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)janterry
(4,429 posts)IS this really the position his supporters want to take?
Apparently their position is that god was a pedophile.
SergeStorms
(19,192 posts)they think it's perfectly alright for them to do it. Hey, if it's good enough for the "big guy" it's good enough for them.
Motley13
(3,867 posts)stables
Kaleva
(36,291 posts)mac56
(17,566 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,444 posts)I believe!!!111!!
spanone
(135,815 posts)because joseph was a pedophile???
forgotmylogin
(7,523 posts)They're like pioneers!
Or, as pioneers are called today, the FLDS.
FSogol
(45,470 posts)Was his own dad.
He spent all that time talking to himself...Ghost version of himself...he asked himself why he foresaked himself...
Corvo Bianco
(1,148 posts)From himself
They_Live
(3,231 posts)heh.
rpannier
(24,329 posts)I'm my own grandpa
in this case, I'm my own pa
underpants
(182,734 posts)Coventina
(27,093 posts)Stuckinthebush
(10,843 posts)Bring in God. Start confusing the issue with Jesus.
Soon he will stand up with his wife and pastor and denounce the devil.
My gods this crap hurts my head.
msongs
(67,381 posts)Yavin4
(35,432 posts)SergeStorms
(19,192 posts)I hadn't seen that episode before.
karynnj
(59,501 posts)and Jesus was the son of God.
denbot
(9,899 posts)A kick for Hypocrisy, may it Rest In Peace.
Doreen
(11,686 posts)Corvo Bianco
(1,148 posts)Let us never forget the first Christian child rape case
trof
(54,256 posts)Jim Ziegler
Freethinker65
(10,008 posts)Takket
(21,550 posts)Could come up with such an asinine justification.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,839 posts)Or Joseph for that matter.
More to the point, they did get married to each other.
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)Mary was a virgin. Ergo, she mustve gotten angelically impregnated before she was old enough to be slutty. Science!
oasis
(49,367 posts)Iggo
(47,546 posts)Wow.
syringis
(5,101 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(48,988 posts)Progressive dog
(6,900 posts)and Mary was a virgin. I also don't remember anything in the Bible about God molesting Mary.
dalton99a
(81,428 posts)paleotn
(17,903 posts)defending incest?
SergeStorms
(19,192 posts)Please. I couldn't take their explanation of that one.
volstork
(5,399 posts)You just might be correct!!
erpowers
(9,350 posts)Didn't Noah's daughters get him drunk and have sex with him in order to repopulate the Earth? I may be wrong, I thought someone's daughters had sex with him because there were no other men they could have sex with and have children.
So, I do not know, maybe the Republicans will say incest is okay when they are no other available men. Maybe they will say the father had sex with his daughter because he could not find a suitable man for her and he wanted her to have a child.
Crunchy Frog
(26,579 posts)It's in the Bible, not condemned, so Alabama will probably try to make it legal.
keithbvadu2
(36,731 posts)Republican/right wing religious family values
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)where 30 year old pervert hillbillies are romantically involved with 14 year olds girls. Every time I think these ass backward southern rejects could not go any lower they continually outdo themselves. Now a candidate for the United States Senate is a sexual predator of young girls. Where I live in NJ Roy would be in prison for his romantically courting,as they say, underage girls or his ass would be handed to him by a furious Father. This self righteous pieces of shit should all be in prison along with the sick bastards that vote for him.
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)Goman na hito ga Kirada . 五万な ひと が キラだ, I hate arrogance. 私は傲慢さが嫌い
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,659 posts)God got Mary pregnant; Joseph wasn't Jesus' father and didn't knock Mary up. That whole virgin birth thing, remember?
19 Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a public example, was minded to put her away privily.
20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.
21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.
22 Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying,
23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
24 Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife:
25 And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name Jesus.
TNNurse
(6,926 posts)SergeStorms
(19,192 posts)These people (Republicans) have absolutely no honor or humility at all. What disgusting pigs.
George II
(67,782 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Historic NY
(37,449 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)At least that's what they taught us in MY Sunday school classes.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)So fuck her, literally and metaphorically, and now symbolically too. This pervasive culture of sexual abuse and male dominance must be arrested, literally, along with the criminals.
Where are the arrests?
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Podkayne K
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how did such a nice young Jewish couple get schleped into such a tzimmes?
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)mnmoderatedem
(3,722 posts)oh wait, it's only OK if that grown man happens to be a republican running for congress. Silly me.
AllyCat
(16,174 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,444 posts)AllyCat
(16,174 posts)If that is how they Jesus and Christianity, they truly are depraved.