The best part of Morning Joe today was that everyone

[Ilsa]

on the panel was pissed that the women, the accusers in the WaPo Moore story were not believed. Wallace, another R female guest, all of the men were disgusted by the qualifiers, "If these allegations are true..." by McConnell and others. They pointed out that McCain did not qualify his statement, he simply said Moore should drop out.

The panel pointed out that the story was carefully resourced, the women had nothing to gain and everything to lose by coming forward.

[brewens]

1. Well, there wouldn't be much of an element of presumed innocence if it were a democrat.

As far as the right goes anyway. Women are being emboldened to now come forward and bust these creeps. There will be more, and I suspect some of ours too. But I'd bet a whole shit ton more of theirs.

I wouldn't put it past the right to recruit some somehow. Like Paula Jones being there when they needed her. I kind of always thought both Jones and Clinton were lying. I bet she did just what Bill wanted and was bent that she wasn't the Gov's new mistress. Bill couldn't very well say that could he?

[OKNancy]

2. FWIW, Nicole Wallace is not a Republican anymore

She became an Independent in 2016

[Ilsa]

3. I guess I missed her announcement. Thanks! nt

[lillypaddle]

11. Didn't she say this morning

that she is an inactive republican?

However, Wikipedia lists her as an Independent.

[calimary]

15. I dont trust that - or her pronouncement - any farther than I can throw my house.

The minute they get somebody else in there, they’ll return to the fold. If we get to the “President Pence” position, you watch: it’ll be All Is Forgiven! Never Mind! Everything’s A-Okay again! Scarborough too.

[lillypaddle]

16. I think Nicolle is quite sane

she's become one of my favorite shows. Scarborough makes me pull my hair out almost daily, but for a conservative, he's all right.

[questionseverything]

18. nicole defended bush lying us into iraq, torture and black site torture centers

[lostnfound]

21. She was pretty young and grew up with right wing parents

Judge her by who she is today and how she handles her guests.People do evolve.

[lillypaddle]

22. +1000 nt

[questionseverything]

23. she defended a war criminal

this "normalization" of the bush/co is dangerous

[beachbum bob]

4. like this, too many conservatives have HUGE problems concerning sex and women and why

their governing strategies always treat women as 2nd class. Not to be believed, not to be trusted and not to be cared about.

and conservative women share many of the same thoughts...which make it all the more mind boggling

[Amaryllis]

19. It seems to be a package deal with conservatives.

[bobbieinok]

5. Remember 'testemony' etymologically related to 'testes'

Means only word of male is valid, worthy of belief.

[elias7]

6. not only that, but touching is involved!

In ancient Rome, two men taking an oath of allegiance held each other's testicles, and men held their own testicles as a sign of truthfulness while bearing witness in a public forum.

[Ilsa]

7. Didn't ever think about this. Here's

an article that confirms etiology:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/games-primates-play/201112/testify-comes-the-latin-word-testicle

Doesn't disparage femaleness, but since women don't have testicles, they cannot participate. I wonder if this seeps into male thinking unconsciously? Consciously?

[Dave Starsky]

9. Both words have the same root in Latin.

Testis, which actually means "witness" or "bystander".

The "testes" were the little "witnesses" to the sex act.

But one word did not derive from the other.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

13. Except testimony is not spelled the way you say

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/games-primates-play/201112/testify-comes-the-latin-word-testicle

[bobbieinok]

17. Apologies, typing too fast

[world wide wally]

8. Does anyone remember how old the woman teacher that went to prison for having

sex with her 14 year old male student?

[leftynyc]

10. I liked that question

shouldn't be what Moore should do so they can give that weasel answer of "if he's guilty", the question is "are you calling these 4 women all liars?".

[lindysalsagal]

12. Best part? No Joe or Mika.

It's getting old....

[SharonClark]

20. So true. Their hysterics and self-righteousness are getting old.

[UCmeNdc]

14. If you are a Republican Politician nothing seems to matter. Even if you are a pedophile.

Roy Moore is a pedophile.