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By Annie Linskey GLOBE STAFF NOVEMBER 09, 2017
WASHINGTON Senator Elizabeth Warren walked back her explosive comments that the Democratic primary process in 2016 was rigged, telling a local newspaper in Massachusetts this week that the process was fair.
The change in her view of the Democratic primary came six days after she shocked Democrats by unexpectedly wading into the partys civil war and validating former Democratic National Committee chairwoman Donna Braziles allegations that Hillary Clintons Brooklyn headquarters controlled party operations before Clinton was the nominee.
Warren told the Springfield Republican on Wednesday there was some bias within the DNC when the ultimate nominee, Clinton, and Bernie Sanders were battling for the partys nomination. But she also said the overall 2016 primary process was fair and Hillary made history.
Its a marked change from her comments last week when Warren said in three national TV interviews that the process was rigged. She was most explicit in a back-and-forth with PBSs Judy Woodruff in which she said: We recognize the process was rigged, and now it is up to Democrats to build a new process, a process that really works, and works for everyone.
On Thursday, a spokesman for Warren, Lacey Rose, said, Senator Warren believes there was bias at the DNC but when asked in an interview on Wednesday she clarified her belief that the broader primary process was fair.
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DURHAM D
(32,609 posts)rusty fender
(3,428 posts)ecstatic
(32,681 posts)Check out the comments on her Facebook page.
Both EW and Bernie have megaphones and need to be a lot more responsible when making comments.
MrsCoffee
(5,801 posts)samnsara
(17,616 posts)Bradshaw3
(7,510 posts)She will be re-elected and continue to be a leader of the party. This is no big deal.
brush
(53,764 posts)Bradshaw3
(7,510 posts)This is a minor thing that pales in comparison to her stances for working people, against big money and speaking out when many wouldn't. She would be a great candidate who could appeal to working classes that others haven't. I hope she runs in 2020 because she would stand a good chance of getting elected and changing things for the better. This non-story will be long forgotten by then. With drumpf as president and all the problems we have, it's ridiculous to write her off over something as trivial as this.
brush
(53,764 posts)didn't take it, left the more progressive constituency to Sanders, a non-Democrat.
A lot of people were clamoring for her to run and she would've had a better shot as she was an actual Democrat who would'nt have gotten all the criticism that Sanders did of just using the party.
But, as they say, hindsight is always 20/20.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Look at all the young diverse democrats that just got elected!
It's time to look to the future and win with these young folks I believe.
Bradshaw3
(7,510 posts)Once we get tot know them the bloom could be off the rose on them.
brush
(53,764 posts)moda253
(615 posts)Not Going To Happen.
We need presidents that can see the big picture before running their mouth.
Bradshaw3
(7,510 posts)One who never ever misspeaks or gets anything wrong. Good luck with that.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Mass also has a Republican Governor, and Baker is one of (if not the) most popular governor in the USA.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2017/04/11/poll-shows-charlie-baker-most-popular-governor-america-again/lH9aH3EX3lS2wuXeAtzzGO/amp.html
Bradshaw3
(7,510 posts)We can check back in November and you can rip me. But she won't.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I also think the rest of your comments are spot on. In politics, a big deal often only sticks around for a day or two. Some will not let go of this. Others will see the big picture. Warren has zero record of repeated ratfucking like Sanders. The situations simply aren't the same. She is a great Democrat, Senator, and will continue to be a leader. She will get a 20 from me for her next campaign.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Oh well its good to know who your friends are eh?
Donna Brazile and Sen. Warren have told me all I need to know about them.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)She showed poor judgement in her RUSH to speak without researching the FACTS. She showed poor judgement in NOT waiting. She showed poor judgement in her MUCH DELAYED retraction or "walk-back". She showed poor judgement in her "sorry-not-sorry" non-apology.
I can't trust her any more. With knee-jerk responses and an apparent inability to accept responsibility for her own mistakes... she's only suited to be the senator from Mass... NOT our party's nominee. She may be a "scrappy fighter" in the US Senate... and that's all well-and-good... but she has demonstrated to me that she does NOT have the wisdom, nor the thoughtfulness, nor the humility, nor the courage, nor the demeanor for the job.
I'm very disappointed.
Bradshaw3
(7,510 posts)Including Hillary Clinton. That certainly didn't disqualify her. To take this one episode as defining Warren is ridiculous, especially considering her exemplary record. Her real "crime" here is not misspeaking or being wrong but that it was taken as an attack on Hillary, and those are not permitted, even if it is as minor as this is.
Warren would be a great nominee for President.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... on the party. Warren would be a weak national candidate. I'd never vote for her to be our party's nominee.
Bradshaw3
(7,510 posts)But I don't think her behavior is as big a deal as some are making it out to be, and some are overreacting because of their biases. I think Hillary won both the primary and general fair and square and would have made an excellent president despite having some of the same shortcomings attributed to Warren. I would say the same about Warren, who would be a strong national candidate for several reasons that far outweigh this incident.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Scrappy-fighter Elizabeth Warren will remain in the Senate.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)joshcryer
(62,269 posts)When the emails came out her initial apology was a non-apology but then she got all the facts, talked to attorneys, etc, and finally made a very concrete apology. That's how it should be done. You should never apologize for something you didn't do just to appease people. There are really nasty people out there who will jump on your apology even if you weren't wrong, because it validates their hatred for you.
msongs
(67,394 posts)Tavarious Jackson
(1,595 posts)Kaleva
(36,294 posts)She shouldn't have said anything at all in the first place. One would tie themselves into a knot trying to explain the shift from "rigged" to "fair".
I don't have any issues with Warren an think she is a fine Senator but this is an example of the mouth moving faster then the brain.
Squinch
(50,946 posts)Bleacher Creature
(11,256 posts)Especially after Brazile's story was proven false. I think Warren is fantastic and I will follow and support her anywhere and anytime. This doesn't lessen my admiration for her in the slightest. But she's better than this kind of thing.
tavernier
(12,377 posts)for Hillary if she suspected foul play? (Im remembering the hugs and high fives and embraces that now look phony...) Was she disappointed that she didnt get the VP invite?
I think she is brilliant and a great and caring American and I cant fault her for being ambitious, but I dont much care for fair weather friends and that is the impression I took from her statements last week.
Mike Nelson
(9,951 posts)..."rigged" to "fair" is more than "walking back." Also, she said "rigged" with much more conviction. I think she and Bernie have a bad case of the "It Could'a Been Me" blues. Good news is how many new people are running and winning...
MyOwnPeace
(16,925 posts)great faith and hope in Sen. Warren. If she were to run for the Democratic nomination for president in 2020 I would consider her to be an outstanding candidate.
I think this was a "blip" in the road for her and I will not hold it against her (at this point I'm not even sure if she was wrong in what she said - I need to know more about the background and context).
ALL candidates for both parties have their own trails of "oops" and the electorate treats them all differently. Really, someone says to "grab them by the........" and STILL gets elected?
To me - this is no big deal - and CERTAINLY NOT a killer - but it does get my attention - and I will be watching.........................