Freepers go full pro-molestation, call Moore's pedophilia part of southern tradition

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

It's a southern thing, or some such shit - you silly lib'ruls wouldn't understand!:

In 1979 Roy Moore was a West Point Military Academy graduate, an Army Captain, a Vietnam War vet and a recent graduate of the University of Alabama Law School.
He was also single which made him a top tier most eligible bachelor candidate in 1970s
Alabama
Even upper class moms would have been circling like vultures trying to set there daughters with young Roy Moore given his accomplishments and blue chip future prospects.
Times were different back then in the South.
Women got married young and their future lives were largely determined by the quality of the man they married. Far from being seen a child molester, parents would have seen Moore as a highly accomplished suitor who was well established and and a stable potential husband for their daughter.
For their part, the women of the South of that era may have been young but most were 16 or 18 going on 29. They were far from immature and could take take care of themselves.
Given Roy Moore's status top tier most eligible bachelor, he could have played the rake, taken advantage of young women and cut wide swath sowing his wild oats with the young ladies of the day.
Instead, the very testimony of his would be accusers show that, by his actions, he was a decent, honorable suitor who, in the tradition of Southern Gentlemen, kept his hands to himself and did not take advantage of or force himself and any young women.
I mean really, he actually kissed several of them.
Give me a break.
246 posted on November 9, 2017 9:26:37 PM EST by rdcbn
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Don't think this a lone attitude among Freepers:

Women got married young and their future lives were largely determined by the quality of the man they married. Far from being seen a child molester, parents would have seen Moore as a highly accomplished suitor who was well established and and a stable potential husband for their daughter.
This is perfectly stated, yet we will never hear it anywhere else other than a site like this. Great overall post, thanks for your thoughts and time.
248 posted on November 9, 2017 9:30:09 PM EST by Golden Eagle ("A lot of people are disappointed in the Justice Department, including me" - Trump on Nov 3, 2017)
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Just as Elvis, I mean, Jesus, would have done!:

So true. It brings to mind the courtship of Elvis Presley and Priscilla Beaulieu. Priscilla was 14 at the time and Elvis was 24. Everything was open and above board, with Priscilla’s parents giving full permission for the relationship to proceed. They even went so far as to take their young daughter to Germany to visit Elvis when he was in the Army.
261 posted on November 9, 2017 10:46:57 PM EST by miserare ( Hillary--you lost! Get over it!!)

Elvis? Hell, look at that fine moral pillar, Jerry Lee Lewis!:

Yeah, Alabama 40 years ago? Not such an unorthodox thing back them and there. Sometimes the fathers not only approved but pushed the girls in that direction. Especially if they had many girls. They couldn’t work the farm like sons could so they were useless eaters in a way. If they were old enough to breed, they were old enough to go be supported by someone else. Plus, Look at Jerry Lee Lewis + his 12 yo third cousin.
280 posted on November 10, 2017 11:40:37 AM EST by Pollard (TRUMP 2016)

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[Initech]

1. These morons are fucking disgusting.

They are really making me embarrassed to be human right now. Fuck this shit.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

51. Bunch of sick fucks... bout time they got called out!

[ismnotwasm]

2. I fucking knew it.

I knew this argument was coming

[DemocratSinceBirth]

3. That is the most disturbing thing about Elvis.

According to Priscilla they engaged in heavy foreplay but never consummated their marriage until they were wed. It's still icky and unacceptable and would never be acceptable today.

BTW, Don Johnson was 30 when he was having sex with Melanie Griffith who was 14.

Freepers are sick.

[RhodeIslandOne]

10. Don Johnson is only seven years older than Melanie Griffith

Still icky but he was not 30.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

21. You're right

At age 14, Griffith began dating Don Johnson, her mother's 22-year-old co-star in The Harrad Experiment.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melanie_Griffith

[Docreed2003]

29. She went to live at Graceland at 16...

And finished High School in Memphis!! Oh and their “courtship” began when she was 14!

[The_Casual_Observer]

4. They would be defending Charlie Manson if he were running

For that office right now as a republican. These are sick fuckers full of hate and paranoia.

[ProudLib72]

12. What's wrong with Manson?

You libruls don't understand that cults are a southern tradition. We have a lot of uneducated people who are looking for something to give their lives structure and meaning. Manson did just that.

[The_Casual_Observer]

15. Well Charlie was a southerner by birth, so he should be

Given a fair shake.

[ProudLib72]

18. One thing is obvious

David Koresh didn't get a fair shake. Branch Davidians? How much more christian fundamentalist can you get? Just think about it. We could have had Koresh as president instead of that sex maniac heathen Clinton! That would have put our nation on the straight and narrow for sure!

[The_Casual_Observer]

19. Branch Davidians had such a nice ring to it.

He had it all, guns underaged girls, a posse of middle aged goat faced idiots ... A visionary ahead of his time.

[Aristus]

39. Harlan Ellison once answered that observation by pointing out that Manson

and other murderous cult leaders in California came there from someplace else and never really fit in.

[enough]

5. One of the women who accused Moore said explicitly that her mother was enthusiastic

about the relationship and thought it was a piece of great good fortune. It's explained in detail in the WAPO article.

"She just felt like I would be safe with him. . . . She thought he was good husband material.”

[sarah FAILIN]

8. She was looking for a future for her daughter

Back then if they weren't really smart enough to become a nurse or a teacher or didn't have the money for college, the parents hoped they married well. Moore being an attorney would be quite a catch. Sad, but true.

My aunt dropped out of school and got married at 14. That sort of thing isn't ok today, but back in the late 60's it was a different story.

[WinkyDink]

26. "Got married" might be an important detail!

[sarah FAILIN]

38. My home ec teacher said dating was an audition for a husband

The girl never realizes she is being used till it's over. They think they are husband shopping when they go out with someone they think they are dating while the man is trying to put as little effort as possible in till he can get in the girls pants. The young girls were too inexperienced to know what was really going on. That's not a defense of the man in any way, but it sure would have been nice if girls back then had not been so sheltered. I made sure my daughter knew more than I did, but it is still hard convincing young girls of the truth.

[WinkyDink]

41. I was born in 1949. I'm not sure where this "so sheltered" rumor got started.

[greatauntoftriplets]

37. I worked with a woman who married at 14 and had kids while still in her mid-teens.

She was born and raised in Tennessee, but later moved to Chicago.

[pnwmom]

11. Not the mother of the 14 year old! And the story you mentioned

adds to the evidence that shows his strong attraction to teenagers.

[BigmanPigman]

6. I just finished watching Lolita on TCM again

and couldn't help but think of Roy Amoral. Interesting timing of the programming schedule.

[WinkyDink]

27. Not accidental, I don't think.

[BigmanPigman]

42. Ben Mankovwitz is a TCM host and a strong Dem

so I have the feeling he has a hand in the programming. Whenever The Moron does something terrible a movie is shown relating to it. After Russian election meddling was confirmed TCM ran The Manchurian Candidate.

[WinkyDink]

46. I think I noticed that one! There were a few "Communist infiltration" ones recently, too!

[moriah]

7. My grandparents met when she was 15, but didn't propose...

... until she was 18. And they waited another six months, during which time he gave her the one and only kiss before her wedding day.

Pedophilia is NOT a Southern tradition, or if it is, it's certainly not one to be proud of!

[pnwmom]

9. The critical difference here: Moore went behind the parents' backs.

A sure sign of consciousness of guilt.

[Squinch]

13. "Useless eaters." So it's OK to molest them. And I bet these people think they're Christian.

These people are scum.

Waiting for another poster to complain about how we're being mean to the Trump(R) voter and we should try to get them to like us.

[Girard442]

23. Unntze Esser

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(lit. "useless eaters" or "useless mouths" ) Similar to life unworthy of life, a designation for people with serious medical problems or disabilities. The term was also applied to Jews. It was used in the 1938 children's book Der Giftpilz by Julius Streicher.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_Nazi_Germany#U

Fucking Nazis. Every last one of them.

[Squinch]

24. I've heard the phrase before but didn't know where it came from. Nauseating.

[erpowers]

48. Not From the South

I do not think the person who made that post truly from the South, or knows anything about Southern women. I can accept there was a difference between Southern black women and Southern white women, but I do not think this story is true of Southern white women, even in the 60s. Women in the South could get out and work in the 60s. Young women were allowed to work in the fields. It is possible that girls were allowed to get more education, but girls could be used to work the fields back in the 60s. So, women were not "useless eaters". I think the idea that Southern women were not allowed to work the fields is largely a myth. Maybe it was just Southern black women who worked in the fields, but their were Southern women working in fields in the past. Also, there were women working in the South during the 60s. Jobs may have been limited, but women could get jobs.

I could be wrong, but I think it was highly unusual from a 30 year old man to want to date a 14 year old girl. I think in most cases when women got married young they also married young men. Men around the age of 18-21. I think very few fathers back then would have approved of Roy Moore sleeping with their 14 year old daughters back in the 60s. Moore may have been seen as an eligible bachelor for a woman around the age of 18 or older, but not 14.

[Squinch]

49. I agree with you. They are trotting the three very gross examples that everyone knows about -

Jerry Lee Lewis, Elvis and Loretta Lynn. Sorry but I find all of those examples repugnant.

They even trotted out Mary and Joseph.

They're grasping at straws. Nothing they say makes any sense.

[SandyZ]

14. It is, doesn't make it right, and doesn't mean an elected official. The rest of the more progressive

nation speaks.

[mamas]

16. Just like the Confederate Flag and screwing your sister.

[Baitball Blogger]

17. Dear God. Please stop this from spreading.

[Corgigal]

20. Southern mothers

Please don't think of your female children as a broodmare. They are human with their OWN hopes and dreams. If you want to play genetic lottery then establish a stud farm for race horses. This may explain why the divorce rate in the south is higher. Young woman grows up, says hell no. Bye.

[Volaris]

28. Yep and an education is the key to stopping this nonsense,

No matter what else It takes (in terms of generational sacrifice). The Boyfolk might be pissy about it for a good long while, but grown emotionally mature MEN will always be there to make for decent husbands AFTER THE FACT if that's still a desire on the woman's part.

The only way out, has always been UP. That's what our response to this 'traditional culture' bullshit needs to be (especially when that culture takes abuse as a norm).

[Duppers]

32. Too many backward, sick people

In some parts of the South.

[Madam45for2923]

30. How is Moore different from Milo's the pedo peddler?

[Duppers]

31. This southern woman says...

A just treatment for these pedophiles (and idiots defending them):

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/1997/07/the_unkindest_cut.html

Only halfway kidding.

[BigDemVoter]

33. I grew up in the South, and NO, this is not "typical" behavior. . . .

Roy Moore should be in the penitentiary in general lockup.

From today's NYT. . . .

"Republican senators and their advisers, in a flurry of phone calls, emails and text messages, discussed fielding a write-in candidate, pushing Alabama’s governor to delay the Dec. 12 special election or even not seating Mr. Moore at all should he be elected."

THIS left me speechless. . .
'Susan Remick, 48, a principal at an elementary school, said: “This all happened many years ago, correct? I honestly think we’re paying too much attention to it.” '





Those fucking pigs will seat him if he wins.

[Docreed2003]

34. My grandfather was 28, when he married my grandmother who was 14

But that was fucking 1928! Yeah, it’s the south and no they weren’t cousins. By the time my grandmother was 21, she had brought five kids into the world...her sixth, my mother, wouldn’t be born for nearly two decades. A doctor told her she was going into ‘early menopause’ and ‘couldn’t have anymore kids’ when she found out she was pregnant with my mom....and the story goes she didn’t speak to my granddad for weeks, lol!

Now, we look at that kind of marriage differently today, as we should! But to suggest this was ok in the late seventies is just bullshit! Yeah it WAS a southern thing...decades earlier! That’s no excuse for Moore’s behavior!

I also take significant issue with this :

They couldn’t work the farm like sons could so they were useless eaters in a way.

Fuck a bunch of that! Granddaddy was a sharecropper when they first married and Granny ran their household. That meant she took care of the kids, lit a fire every morning, cooked the meals, help to raise their personal crops, took care of the chickens and pigs they raised, and she hunted for their meat....no lie, she would put the kids on a blanket and drag them through the woods as she hunted for squirrels, rabbits, and deer. Again, this was the 1930s and a vastly different time, but don’t tell me women couldn’t do the work on the farm because that’s a load of shit! If it weren’t for strong women like my grandmother, there’s no way farm families like mine could have ever broken out of the “sharecropper” shackles.

[Aristus]

40. I agree. My own grandfather, from rural Alabama, was the second-youngest of fifteen children.

He had eight older sisters, and they spoiled him and pampered him so much, he never learned to do a thing for himself. When he married my grandmother (youngest of ten children), she had to do everything related to running the household. She paid all the bills, bought the houses and the cars, and pretty much wore the pants in the family.

No easy task in the South of yesteryear. When she would go to a dealership to buy a car, a lot of salesmen would demand that she return with her husband before selling her a car!

Crazy place and crazy times...

[blueinredohio]

35. As a southern girl, wouldn't these statements make you feel wanted?

[AmandaRuth]

36. Once again, a bunch of old white guys

Try and make all the rules for women.

[Initech]

43. Totally ironic isn't it?

The same assholes who still believe that a pizza parlor in DC is running a child sex slave ring under their basement (when there was no basement) are now actively defending child sex. There is no low they won't stoop to.

[maxrandb]

44. Well it is DC

Folks in DC have to look for their underage sex victims at a pizza shop.

In Alabama they just go to the family reunion to find them.

[Mendocino]

45. Loretta Lynn

married Dew when she was 15, he was 21. She had a granddaughter at 34.

[alphafemale]

47. What does a consensual relationship have do do with this?

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The pervert undressed an 8th grader and made her touch his cock.

[moriah]

50. That was 1947 and 1966 respectively.

Not 1979, when the supposedly "Moral Majority" movement was in full swing.