"You're A Poser, Alabama. & the Bible Belt is down around your knees."

[kpete]

Link to tweet

http://www.al.com/opinion/index.ssf/2017/11/the_unbuckling_of_the_bible_be.html#incart_river_home?li_source=base&li_medium=default-widget

[underpants]

1. Why do you think these types hated hippies so much?

Hippies lived a life very close to that if Jesus while the "I wear a suit to church every week" crowd could fell their own hypocrisy.

[murielm99]

18. I used to hate seeing this sort of thing.

I thought there were too many stereotypes connected to the South. Stills and corn likker. Church on Sunday and debauchery on Saturday night. Old men and young girls, people screwing their cousins or sisters.

I still despise regional bigotry. But the "Bible belt around their knees" has been earned. They can't defend any of this. At least the ones who make excuses for Moore, the ones who will vote for him can't defend it!

[mr_lebowski]

26. If you think grown hippy dudes weren't 'getting with' minor girls right and left circa 1967-1970

... then you clearly were not 'there' at the time.

I wasn't (though I was alive) but my dad was right in the thick of the Summer of Love in SF, CA. And I've heard plenty of stories.

According to these stories, basically everyone was high/tripping most of the time, and everyone was screwing everyone, regardless of age (well, within reason). If you think the 'scene' didn't attract Ephebophiles en masse, you're fooling yourself, no offense.

What I mean is yeah 'these types' hated hippies quite a bit. But I'd say it's definitely less that they felt like the hippies were winning the Christ-like Sweepstakes, and much more that they were 'getting away with' getting loaded, and openly having relations with willing teenagers, whereas 'these types' had to hide what they were doing, and creepily manipulate (or even outright rape) them ... to get what they wanted.

[rwsanders]

32. But if you dad is around, maybe you could check a hypothesis I have...

I think there were many who were hippies because they rejected the establishment and really believed in the movement, and there were many who joined in over fear of Viet Nam, and like the sex and drugs. Now we call the second type Republicans.
Just something I've wondered about as I grew up in the shadow of that generation. My parents were a bit too old and "square" to join in and Viet Nam was done before I was 10.

[Beartracks]

33. "They hated them for their freedoms."

Could be.

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[Oneironaut]

36. If Jesus came back to earth, most US far right Christians would hate him and try to have him killed.

He shunned money and greed, which they happen to love. He humbled himself to the type of people that they think are below them.

[mcar]

2. Well worth reading the whole column

The comments are good too. Seems like all of AL isn't happy with this turn of events.

[Madam45for2923]

3. Wow just those excerpts above are worth the price of entrance. Going now to read this...

[Madam45for2923]

4. Can someone please make this whole article into a song or rap? Or street performance art?

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[mdbl]

5. hope it hits home in Alabama

they need some true churchin-up.

[MelissaB]

9. Don't worry. It won't.

They can justify ANYTHING. ANYTHING!

[spike jones]

6. The difference between naked and nekkid:

If you are naked, you are not wearing clothes. If you are nekkid, you are not wearing clothes and you are up to something

[eppur_se_muova]

38. Thanks to Roy Blount Jr. for that clarification ! nt

[spike jones]

41. Thanks for that reference.

I thought it was from Brother Dave Gardner, a comedian of “southern humor” that was kind of funny in the early sixties, but real racist in the late sixties.

[eppur_se_muova]

42. I remember this from a live Prairie Home Companion show ...

... don't know if it's one of his books somewhere. Like a lot of humor, who knows if it's original ?

One of my favorite Mark Twain quotes can't be documented as ever having been said by him. :^/

[zentrum]

7. What George Wallace discovered

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....years ago is that all the ideology is a cover for racism. Racism is the one true note.

They've got no problem with Moore because he's a good supporter of racist policies too.

[mr_lebowski]

27. Dead On Right (n/t)

[MelissaB]

8. This girl from Alabama kicks & recommends.

[Wounded Bear]

10. Worth the read...

[SharonClark]

11. "And the bible belt is down around your knees"

Brilliant!

[Kirk Lover]

16. or ankles

[Ninga]

12. Sharing! Nt

[Tatiana]

13. This comment... WOW! Maybe they are starting to get it?

Moore will win. There is no doubt. He was unfit to serve as dogcatcher before these particular allegations. Alabama as a whole is what you get when the best and brightest flee the place as soon as possible. With nothing but the dregs left, Alabama will elect this buffoon and Alabama will continue to get what it deserves - having the hell beat out of it in every way for every thing.

Started with the civil war (AL lost), continued with reconstruction (AL lost), 1901 constitution (AL lost - everyone in the world except the ignorant knew), Jim Crowe laws (AL lost), blue laws (AL is still feebly fighting and LOSING), civil rights (AL lost) and gay rights (AL lost).

The pattern is easily seen by anyone who can think critically - Alabama has lost everything - especially it's young and and vibrant potential leaders (SEE APPLE'S CURRENT CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER who makes more in a year than the whole state's budget). Alabama has always been a loser and is very proud of it.

[DAMANgoldberg]

37. BTW

Apple's current CEO was born in Baldwin County (gulf coast area) and graduated from the same university I did, @AuburnU.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

15. Damn. That was GOOD!!!

I want to read more from him. 👏🏾

[Elwood P Dowd]

22. He has appeared on Rachel's show many times to discuss Alabama politics.

I've also seen him on a few others. Guy knows his Alabama politics.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

25. Oh boy, sometimes I regret not watching tv.

I don't miss the garbage, but then again I miss good stuff too.

[BadgerMom]

17. K/R

Fire and brimstone

[SunSeeker]

19. K & R

[KY_EnviroGuy]

20. LOL, from the comments....

(snip)
Ziegler has put a spin on a christian story that has the devil saying, why didn't i think of that.

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The comments are well worth a read!.....

[robbob]

21. I thought I was reading song lyrics for a second there:

Alabama
Neil Young

Oh Alabama
The devil fools
with the best laid plan.
Swing low Alabama
You got spare change
You got to feel strange
And now the moment
is all that it meant.

Alabama, you got
the weight on your shoulders
That's breaking your back.
Your Cadillac
has got a wheel in the ditch
And a wheel on the track

Oh Alabama
Banjos playing
through the broken glass
Windows down in Alabama.
See the old folks
tied in white ropes
Hear the banjo.
Don't it take you down home?

Alabama, you got
the weight on your shoulders
That's breaking your back.
Your Cadillac
has got a wheel in the ditch
And a wheel on the track

Oh Alabama.
Can I see you
and shake your hand.
Make friends down in Alabama.
I'm from a new land
I come to you
and see all this ruin
What are you doing Alabama?
You got the rest of the union
to help you along
What's going wrong?

[LiberalLovinLug]

24. Cheers

I guess I was just posting my post when you did yours. First thing I thought of.

[mr_lebowski]

28. Neil Young? As I understand it, A Southern Man don't need him around, anyhow ...

[Ken Burch]

35. Is this the song Lynyrd Skynyrd was REALLY pissed off about?

I always thought it was "Southern Man" that, er, TRIGGERED them.

(best part was...years later, Neil took to covering "Sweet Home, Alabama" in concert).

[LiberalLovinLug]

23. Decades later this song is still sadly pertinent.

I come to you
and see all this ruin
What are you doing Alabama?
You got the rest of the union
to help you along
What's going wrong?

[mr_lebowski]

29. I'll see your Neil Young (A God Who Walks Among Men) and raise you a Mussel Shoals Classic ...

Not the original but (AL native) Jason's mah hero, so ...

[TheFrenchRazor]

30. Biblically speaking, there's nothing wrong with an old man raping a young girl, keep that in mind.

religious fundamentalists are operating on a totally different set of moral standards than everybody else.

[mentalsolstice]

31. We live in the ham

My husband tries to read John Archibald everyday. We haven’t seen any support for Moore in our parts, and in fact today I just saw my first Moore TV ad. We have seen a lot of Jones yard signs.

I saw a commentator yesterday on MSNBC, he said Jones’s success will depend on getting out the votes from blacks, urbanites and suburban soccer moms. That sounds about right.

[BamaRefugee]

34. Notice my nickname on DU. I can tell you from bitter experience that

John Archibald is a brave man to have written and published this, in hostile territory.
I truly love Alabama and the folks who really are good people down there, but sadly, even 45 years after I fled, I still have to tell people "Alabama is a great place to be FROM".

[eppur_se_muova]

40. Archibald has picked up on this theme ...

http://www.al.com/opinion/index.ssf/2017/11/alabama_exiles_its_prophets_an.html

[eppur_se_muova]

39. Archibald and Whitmire are true treasures to blue Alabamans.

But the hostility -- and utterly blind, craven, bigoted hatred in the online replies -- I don't see how they deal with it (although they seem to deal splendidly).