Not when, but how is Trump going to fire Mueller? Most humiliating and illegal way he can devise.

[cheyanne]

With no notice federal officers will enter the investigation rooms, confiscate everybody's phone, ID badges and computers, give them 5 minutes to clean out their desks. Not allowed to take any papers or hard discs with them.

Courts will be notified that the government is no longer pursuing cases against Manafort and Gates.

Or he could have the investigation rooms sealed off after hours, and when people arrive for work confiscate their ID badges, electronic equipment...

Trump is going to shut down the investigation, it's only a matter of when and how.

Any other scenarios?

[Irish_Dem]

1. I agree with both possible scenarios. But Mueller must have thought of the same thing

and taken precautions?

Back ups, duplicates, alternative safe house?

[SCantiGOP]

8. Yes

While they don’t talk about what they are doing, their public rules of procedure state that all evidence and work has to be kept off-site in several locations.

[Irish_Dem]

20. Would Trump be able to destroy the evidence stored off site? And can Mueller still work if he is

fired?

[rzemanfl]

2. Where will these "federal officers" come from? The "political hacks?" The military that Drumpf

knows better than? Who in the government who carries a gun has Drumpf not insulted or treated like a personal servant? Drumpf is not a dictator yet.

I suspect Mueller has his stuff backed up off site.

[L. Coyote]

13. The staff at Brietbart. LOL.

Disruption and baiting isn't the kind of bullshit that serves our purpose. We don't need the opposition saying the resistance is nuts.

[MFM008]

3. Info is being backed up

BIGLY.

[dubyadiprecession]

4. Trump is a moron, but his people know that firing Mueller...

will fuel the fire for a more intense investigation by congress. Trump is, "between a rock and a hard place".

[HipChick]

6. He won't care..

[SonofDonald]

5. Mueller will not be surprised by dumpf

I think his backups were in place long ago, I also think Mueller has an indictment obstruction of justice or some other violation just waiting to be unsealed and executed.

We know only what's been released so far, there are a few like spicer and preibus who have already testified and may have given Mueller what he needed to obtain an indictment.

I think Mueller is so far out in front of dumpf that it can't be stopped no matter what happens.

I also have a lot of hope as do we all.

[BigmanPigman]

7. Is he going to try to get rid of the NY AG too?

That is not Mueller's jurisdiction and The Moron will have to face charges there as well.

[SCantiGOP]

9. He wont fire Mueller

Firing Comey got him in this mess.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

10. I thought Trump does not have the authority to fire Mueller.

So he can't fire him.

[Merlot]

11. When has trumpft ever accepted rules and proceedure?

If he can't technically fire Mueller, he'll order someone to do it.

I personally think trumpft will first try to defund the investigation...of course he didn't think of that - probably mcconnell put that one in his ear.

[cheyanne]

14. I think that there is a legal way for him to stop the investigation.

He tells Rosenstein to "close down the investigation". If Rosenstein refuses, Trump can fire him and order the next in line for deputy ag to close the investigation. Totally legal.

But Trump doesn't have much time before Mueller hits him and his family with conspiracy charges.

The quickest way for Trump is to order someone - the Secret Service- the FBI- to physically close down the investigation under the scam that he has detected treason by Mueller . His lapdog Pompeo will be glad to arrest Mueller.

Time is of the essence. Trump will not go quietly at the request of the democrats or even the republicans. The true way to view Trump is not as an "incompetent", "crazy", "stupid" president but as a natural demagogue who will destroy any power centers (media, judiciary, congress, even the republican party&quot that can prevent him from assuming control of the government. He can do this legally just as demagogues before him have relied on subservient legislatures to support their take-overs of the government. Putin has a legislature . . .

[Demsrule86]

17. There is no such way...and I fail to see why you post this here...surely there are more

appropriate websites that you may be familiar with?

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

21. Once again, it's the Saturday Night Massacre all over again.

Remember how well that worked for Nixon?

[tblue37]

18. Bannon told him to do that. nt

[L. Coyote]

12. Trump can't fire Mueller. Do your homework.

What, is Trump going to import the Russian army, overthrow the government, .... ?? He's not a fucking dictator, he's the guy working for us under the Constitution and sworn to uphold the law. He's got two dozen attoney's in the White House who make sure he acts within the boundaries of the law.

[Dread Pirate Roberts]

15. Only if we have an armchair (keyboard) democracy!

If all we do is sit around and comment on web sites like we were handicapping or criticizing football games. We're all amateur pundits talking nonsense like the talking heads on TV. There are things worth getting off our asses and standing up for. We need to make it clear beforehand that this would be unacceptable and if it does happen, millions in the streets. "I made a very strongly worded statement in the comments section" doesn't cut it. Trump has to be more frightened of the consequences of shutting Mueller down that of letting him continue his important work. How do you make that happen?

[Demsrule86]

16. I don't think he will fire Mueller...too late.

But welcome to DU and to your opinion...although I think it is not so.

[dpd3672]

19. Firing Mueller would have no effect.

Do you really think that investigations shut down simply because the guy in charge gets fired? It's not that simple, or every corrupt mayor, governor, or POTUS would simply do that.

If Mueller gets fired, there's a process by which he would be replaced, and the investigation would continue.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

22. You are almost literally describing a coup.

POTUS lacks the authority to do anything remotely like that.

If he tries that he better figure out a way to shut down the press and internet.