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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThis is not a statement from the Franken plane "grope" photographer.
Posted because people keep citing it as if it's proven to be true. It's not.
Link to tweet
Aiden Benjamin @Feisal_Hagi
BREAKING NOW:
Al Franken photo staged according to photographer who took the photo.
Photographer: [S]he was playing dead and SHE wanted him to revive her. I took the picture it was a funny moment everyone was smiling having a good time
Leeann Tweeden is a trump supporter.
"Benjamin" has offered no source for this photographer's supposed statement, no name or other details (other Twitter accounts have posted similar, though "Benjamin" himself appears to be the original source for it).
The placing of the bikini shot next to the plane shot is something that should immediately ring alarm bells. It does nothing but attempt to slutshame Weeden. She may end up deserving to be shamed, but not because of any photos she's had taken in the past.
"Benjamin" has followed it up some hours later with another tweet:
Link to tweet
Aiden Benjamin @Feisal_Hagi
Al Frankens accuser Leean Tweeden is a Fox News regular and best friends with Sean Hannity. She also has donated THOUSANDS to the Trump/Roy Moore campaign.
This is politically convenient?
I think yes!#fakenews
Dozens of interviews with Sean here:
Politically convenient or not, there's that bikini pic again, this time on its own.
Do we know anything about "Aiden Benjamin"?
Well, for a start, there's this from Politifact:
As Tropical Storm Harvey rocks Houston, Texas, a Twitter user decried President Donald Trumps response in comparison to former President Barack Obamas purported on-the-ground efforts using an outdated photo.
Twitter user Aiden Benjamin (@Feisal_Hagi) posted a picture of Obama and his family serving food at a shelter, which he captioned with the hashtags #HurricaneHarvery and #prayfortexas.
"Something youll never see trump do: Obama is in texas serving meals!" he wrote in the Aug. 26, 2017 tweet.
Heres the thing. The picture isnt from Houston nor from this year. Its from a homeless shelter in Washington, D.C., where Obama and his family served Thanksgiving dinner to homeless veterans on Nov. 25, 2015. Both tweets have since been deleted.
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2017/aug/28/blog-posting/outdated-photo-wrongly-suggests-barack-obama-food-/
Personal observation: I think Franken has handled this well so far. Let's not muddy his response by repeating unquestioningly the words of a dubious Twitter source with a track record of spreading fake news.
SandyZ
(186 posts)Denzil_DC
(7,227 posts)SandyZ
(186 posts)Denzil_DC
(7,227 posts)I said:
She may end up deserving to be shamed if it comes out that the timing of this is a Republican dirty trick in which she's complicit. Not for however little clothing she's worn at various times for the camera.
moriah
(8,311 posts)The photo is sadly necessary in context to understand what that kind of retweet-bait is likely to do when spread as fact -- once debunked, make it look like liberals are saying she isn't a "real victim" because she modeled and was at a USO show that got bawdy.
This is a classic tactic to get liberals to look bad during breaking news events.
Denzil_DC
(7,227 posts)People complain when we post links to Twitter if they can't see the posts for whatever reason, so I always add a text and viewable pic version (it also means if the tweet gets deleted, we have a record of it). There's no way I was going to be prissy enough to censor the version I added - it's a bikini pic, big deal.
A poster on Daily Kos reckons that "Aiden Benjamin" may be part of a Russian botnet (I'm skeptical of the tendency to blame everything on Russian disinformation nowadays, but disinformation from whatever source, or amplified by being retweeted/reposted by whoever, does us no favors) aiming to do exactly what you said ("to get liberals to look bad during breaking news events" ):
So it appears that Russian bots are pushing a particular narrative that Frankens photograph was staged:
[the first "Aiden Benjamin" tweet appears here - I won't repost it yet again]
The main tweet people are quoting comes from Aiden Benjamin whose twitter handle is @Feisal_Hagi. (Tweet Archived here: archive.is/...) Checking their twitter feed, they had no real political commentary until February, they just reblogged a bunch of random sports clips. So no comments during the election, the Womens March, etc. After that theres some poorly-written tweets about politics, none of which attract much attention. One of which calls for firing Colbert over something I dont remember. The account has slowly ramped up its political posts.
The avatar for this account appeared elsewhere online, and ultimately seems to have been taken from a VK (Russian Facebook) account:
http://archive.is/VbR8B
Several other Russian Language social media accounts also use this image.
The Make Adverbs Great Again networks rate Aidan Benjamin 7/10 as a Russian troll or bot. Anything about 6/10 is considered a match.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/11/16/1716247/-Heads-up-Russians-boosting-Franken-story-per-Hamilton-68
The Obama/Hurricane Harvey tweet "Benjamin" posted is also debunked on Snopes: https://www.snopes.com/obama-texas-during-hurricane-harvey/
Snopes says:
moriah
(8,311 posts)And very interesting that Make Adverbs Great Again gives that rating.
Checked mine, 2/10.
Denzil_DC
(7,227 posts)Given how often I've seen this claim from "Benjamin" posted on DU today (I got tired of challenging/correcting it, hence the OP), the botnets may be redundant.
moriah
(8,311 posts)I feel you.
Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)Response to Denzil_DC (Original post)
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xor
(1,204 posts)Try not to be like those on the right who parrot anything that fits what they want reality to be. Stick with facts and try to be consistent with our principles to best of our ability. It's hard to do at times, but in the long run it's worth it and best for everyone.
ancianita
(36,016 posts)as I hope others will mine.
My belief is that Tweeden accepted Franken's apology because she knew the joke was honest, even if inappropriate by today's standards, and she didn't want to hurt other women's credibility by crying wolf.
Denzil_DC
(7,227 posts)Tweeden herself has said she thinks it was "heartfelt".
If he'd chosen to hedge or say "prove it" or argued the toss about whether he was actually touching her in that pic or tried to discredit Tweeden or whatever, it could have gotten a lot uglier real quick, and he'd have gotten mired in the mud.
So far, it's been the most adult and professional response to such an allegation I can recall ever seeing.
ancianita
(36,016 posts)This is about discrediting a person whose work was in comedy when this happened, as if that's equivalent to actual, factual sex predations by Moore and Trump, an expelled judge and a business man, neither of whose work could justify any 'mistake' in what they said about or did to women.
Minnesotans will re-elect Franken because they know him, no matter what Repubs do to upgrade their solid identity as Guardians Of Prurience.
Denzil_DC
(7,227 posts)(I know he was freaked by CNN's coverage of the Russian stuff, but he looks the sort to have his own messy skeletons in the closet). Wikipedia isn't usually my go-to place for hilarity, but on this occasion, it didn't disappoint:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Stone#1993.E2.80.932003