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MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 10:53 AM Nov 2017

A complete list of all the times I've experienced unwanted sexual attention as a male:

1. At six years of age, a girl in my 1st grade class chased me in the schoolyard and kissed me on the cheek.
2. At a New Year's Eve party, a female friend of my wife and me gave me a big sloppy smooch in my wife's presence.

That's all I can remember. My wife's list is much, much longer and much more shocking.

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A complete list of all the times I've experienced unwanted sexual attention as a male: (Original Post) MineralMan Nov 2017 OP
Your List Is 2 Longer Than Mine ProfessorGAC Nov 2017 #1
Female I have only one treestar Nov 2017 #2
Everyone has a different history. MineralMan Nov 2017 #3
There is such a thing as females sexually harassing males Bradshaw3 Nov 2017 #4
Of course there is such a thing. MineralMan Nov 2017 #5
You seem to not be following your own advice Bradshaw3 Nov 2017 #10
I didn't get that he was saying female sexual harassment wasn't an issue Merlot Nov 2017 #11
I can remember experiencing considerably more unc70 Nov 2017 #6
Yes. We all have different stories. MineralMan Nov 2017 #7
A weird hug. DetlefK Nov 2017 #8
as a male working in Los Angeles... Javaman Nov 2017 #9
My list as a female rainin Nov 2017 #12
Yup. Women face more frequent sexual assaults and harassment MineralMan Nov 2017 #13

treestar

(82,383 posts)
2. Female I have only one
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 11:00 AM
Nov 2017

experience when I was 25 from a middle-aged male. I ignored him and fortunately he went away. I was at work.

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
3. Everyone has a different history.
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 11:02 AM
Nov 2017

I don't look at people's reports of sexual harassment or abuse based on my own experience. I realize that my own experience may not be the same as that of others.

That does not stop me from being horrified at what some people have had happen to them. Not for a second.

Bradshaw3

(7,505 posts)
4. There is such a thing as females sexually harassing males
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 11:04 AM
Nov 2017

Maybe your post was intended to be funny but while I would imagine that it is 90 percent or more males harassing females it does happen the other way as well. It happened to me at the workplace where my married female boss would openly stare at my crotch on a regular basis. I had a female co-worker who would press her breasts and crotch up against me. We were both single and she wanted sex but I wasn't interested. People can mock these things and not believe them but they do happen.

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
5. Of course there is such a thing.
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 11:08 AM
Nov 2017

We all have different experiences. Despite that, we should all be able to understand the impact of sexual harassment or abuse, despite our own experiences.

Further, our own lack of a history of being sexually harassed does not in any way counter other people's experience.

That's my point, actually.

I will say, however, that the second incident on my list was made much worse by my wife's breaking into raucous laughter after it happened. Alcohol may have been involved, I suspect.

Bradshaw3

(7,505 posts)
10. You seem to not be following your own advice
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 11:29 AM
Nov 2017

Your experiences were humorous, according to you with the comments about raucous laughter and the ROFLMAO emoji. You then tell people who report female sexual harassment that we all have different experiences and that we should understand other's experiences - which doesn't apply to my response or my feelings about male sexual harassment. I do understand, as my comment about the 90 percent should indicate. I think reports of female sexual harassment should be taken seriously.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
11. I didn't get that he was saying female sexual harassment wasn't an issue
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 12:38 PM
Nov 2017

My take on the post was that as a man, he doesn't get as much unwanted attention as a woman, in general. Men get less attention so they don't understand how uncomfortable it can be or why it's a problem. I think that's true.

unc70

(6,110 posts)
6. I can remember experiencing considerably more
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 11:09 AM
Nov 2017

Although the term I would use is “inappropriate” behavior given time and context. Most were fueled by too much alcohol. Most could be described as overly aggressive flirting by someone I was not with that evening, usually trying to make my date or the other woman’s date jealous. The most explicit was having my crotch grabbed in public.

None of my personal experiences compare with what women routinely encounter.

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
7. Yes. We all have different stories.
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 11:10 AM
Nov 2017

Our personal histories, however, should never be used to diminish the experiences of others.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
8. A weird hug.
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 11:10 AM
Nov 2017

At a party. She was in a commited relationship and not my type but we got along great. We had talked all evening.
When the party was over and it was time to head back home, everybody got a handshake from her except me: I got a hug and in hindsight I realized that she did it to feel me up.

Not really uncomfortable, but kinda weird.

Javaman

(62,510 posts)
9. as a male working in Los Angeles...
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 11:18 AM
Nov 2017

I can list about 5 times, I was harassed by other men.

Trying their very best to pick me up in the most obvious obnoxious ways possible.

I told them all no, since I'm straight.

but yes, it happens to us as well.

rainin

(3,010 posts)
12. My list as a female
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 01:36 PM
Nov 2017

6th grade - called over to a car in the drop off lane - a man asking if I had seen a student. He said the child's name so quietly, I went closer to the car to try to hear the name. There I saw he was masturbating.

10th grade - father of a classmate waited outside my high school one day to "walk me home". Classmate was going home with her mom. Raised to be polite, I said nothing and he walked me home.

11th grade - went horseback riding with friend of my step mom's. He was old as dirt. Once we were away from the others, he rode up alongside me and tried to pull me into a kiss. When I reacted by pulling away, he asked me if I was going to "kiss and tell?"

12th grade - three men showed me their privates in a public place - uninvited - In each instance, I was with my mom, dad, and sister, except that we were not together at the moment. Each time, they pulled it out, I ran away. (Garden of Gethsemane, Israel. Near the aguaducts in Caesarea, Israel. Madurodam, Amsterdam.)

19 years old - inappropriately physically touched by a dentist who was late 50's, 60's I would guess. Put his hands all over my body to "position" me in the chair. Asked personal questions about my love life.

19 years old - a man in a car pulled up next to me when I was cycling alone near my house. He was masterbating. He called over to me and motioned for me to look.

I have been groped more times than I can count. I worked for a short time as a waitress in a bar. Men would grab my rearend or put their hands on my belly (my uniform top was cropped). It never occurred to me that I could expect to not be grabbed and touched.



MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
13. Yup. Women face more frequent sexual assaults and harassment
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 02:40 PM
Nov 2017

on average than men do. It's more serious harassment, too. That is not to say that men are never sexually abused. It is simply to say that it happens far less frequently to men. My examples are not of harassment at all. I have never experienced the kind of abuse that my wife and other women have described to me.

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