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pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 05:47 PM Nov 2017

The photo was altered in some way on the day Al Franken won his Senate election,

according to metadata on the photo. It also appears to have been taken on December 21 -- 3 days earlier than on the Christmas Eve flight when Tweeden claims it was taken.

There is also another picture of what appears to be Franken, Tweeden, and others on a flight -- and no one's wearing a flak jacket or strapped into a jump seat. Franken's wearing the same shirt. The tweeter is trying to learn more about when this second picture was taken.

This is the start of a long thread of Twitter. I'm going to check in on it from time to time to see if more develops there.


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The photo was altered in some way on the day Al Franken won his Senate election, (Original Post) pnwmom Nov 2017 OP
Which includes cropping and messing with exposure/contrast, yes? WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2017 #1
Yes, possibly innocuous changes but . . . DeltaLitProf Nov 2017 #5
Could also be just saving with a different file name Qutzupalotl Nov 2017 #19
Just a "coincidence" I'm sure. panader0 Nov 2017 #2
set up! Joe941 Nov 2017 #3
The 2008 Senate campaign had some of the most vicious, below the belt The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2017 #4
AH, thanks, very interesting info! R B Garr Nov 2017 #7
If this is true the Ethics Investigation should be able to BigmanPigman Nov 2017 #6
Which could be why Franken was so anxious for an ethics investigation. OnDoutside Nov 2017 #8
That is what I have been thinking since yesterday. BigmanPigman Nov 2017 #10
I hope the investigation also looks at Roger Stones foreknowledge. n/t Qutzupalotl Nov 2017 #20
They may have messed with the sharpest brain in the Senate malaise Nov 2017 #9
Hope someone finds out it was messed with, who did it and when blueinredohio Nov 2017 #11
A word of caution DavidDvorkin Nov 2017 #12
Yeah, thanks, that makes sense. But the fact remains that the photo pnwmom Nov 2017 #13
Here's the rolled out thread gilpo Nov 2017 #14
If it was altered why did he apologize? former9thward Nov 2017 #15
Because he is not like Trump. Kingofalldems Nov 2017 #17
Oh so he apologizes for things that he didn't do... former9thward Nov 2017 #18
If she felt like she was assaulted or whatever, you give her MGKrebs Nov 2017 #21
I think Franken would know if the picture was fraudulent. former9thward Nov 2017 #23
To throw her off guard?? GeorgeGist Nov 2017 #22
she claimed that she was given the photo on a CD at the end of the tour. uncle ray Nov 2017 #16
Weird that it was photoshopped on same day he was elected. Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #24

DeltaLitProf

(768 posts)
5. Yes, possibly innocuous changes but . . .
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 06:07 PM
Nov 2017

. . . maybe some adjustments so that the hands look closer to touching her? Contracting the shadows? Increasing the thickness of fingers?

Qutzupalotl

(14,298 posts)
19. Could also be just saving with a different file name
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 08:21 PM
Nov 2017

or in a different location — which is to be expected if his political enemies planned to use it for something later. By itself, this is not evidence of alteration.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,659 posts)
4. The 2008 Senate campaign had some of the most vicious, below the belt
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 06:01 PM
Nov 2017

campaign ads on behalf of Norm Coleman that I've ever seen - we hadn't previously seen a lot of that sort of ad in Minnesota, where elections have historically been pretty clean and civilized. But Norm "The Weasel" Coleman had the backing of the RNC and the help of Karl Rove, plus plenty of PAC money - and the GOP was determined to keep that Senate seat (which Coleman had in the first place only because a plane crash killed Paul Wellstone in 2002). The anti-Franken ads were mostly about his career as a comedian and his raunchy jokes. They turned over every rock they could find; they went back years to find the worst examples, even though Franken had already admitted he'd written and delivered some pretty x-rated stuff over the years.

But even with the aid of Karl Rove and unlimited GOP PAC money, for some reason the Coleman campaign never found out about the Tweeden incident - or, for that matter, of any other instance where anyone claimed to have been groped, fondled or otherwise harassed by Franken. This suggests to me that there weren't any such incidents, which might be why Franken himself asked for an ethics investigation.

DavidDvorkin

(19,473 posts)
12. A word of caution
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 06:57 PM
Nov 2017

I'll be delighted if this pans out, but keep in mind that the date and time can be off if the camera's internal date and time weren't set properly.

pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
13. Yeah, thanks, that makes sense. But the fact remains that the photo
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 07:00 PM
Nov 2017

was altered in some way in July 2009 -- which is very interesting.

MGKrebs

(8,138 posts)
21. If she felt like she was assaulted or whatever, you give her
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 08:28 PM
Nov 2017

the apology and accept responsibility. It's what thoughtful people do. It's not like we can go back and prove she didn't feel" something.
If it turns out there is something fraudulent that happened, no loss.

uncle ray

(3,156 posts)
16. she claimed that she was given the photo on a CD at the end of the tour.
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 08:05 PM
Nov 2017

so she, likely others, including Al Franken himself, likely have the original photo CD. if this photo was doctored years later, the original is likely out there.

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