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RDANGELO

(3,433 posts)
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 11:19 PM Nov 2017

My prediction for Muellers report on Trump.

Recommendations for impeachment and or indictment

OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE
MONEY LAUNDERING
ACCEPTING CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS FROM FOREIGN NATIONALS
POSSIBLY TREASON
POSSIBLY RICO

Recommendations for impeachment
COLLUDING WITH THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT TO INFLUENCE THE 2016 ELECTION
VIOLATION OF EMOLUMENTS CLAUSE
REFUSING TO IMPOSE SANCTIONS ON RUSSIA
ACCEPTING THE PRESIDENCY OF THE UNITED STATES WHILE ACTING AS AN AGENT OF THE GOVERNMENT OF RUSSIA

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My prediction for Muellers report on Trump. (Original Post) RDANGELO Nov 2017 OP
And with straight faces, the Republicans in Congress will say, "Nah; nothing to see here." Chasstev365 Nov 2017 #1
Yep, likely saying he just didn't know better. They're all cut from the same piece of cloth IMO. RKP5637 Nov 2017 #11
Didn't know better----baloney. How come he ALWAYS promotes stuff for the 1%. Never makes Doitnow Nov 2017 #16
2018 is a year away malaise Nov 2017 #30
Hopefully more and more voters are waking up to WTF is going on. n/t RKP5637 Nov 2017 #31
Yep, just fake news and laughing stock legal system. Trump is setting it up that way now. nt Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #33
A moderate list. byronius Nov 2017 #2
It's not his job to declare what is or isn't an impeachable DonViejo Nov 2017 #3
OK. That's what there will be evidence for. RDANGELO Nov 2017 #4
I'm betting Mueller will have evidence of Trump's groping DonViejo Nov 2017 #6
I actually think it's worse More_Cowbell Nov 2017 #17
The evidence is mounting on Don Junior and Jared, prison bound. sarcasmo Nov 2017 #5
Violation of the emoluments clause of the U.S. Constitution. greatauntoftriplets Nov 2017 #7
Tax evasion. They always get 'em on tax evasion. unblock Nov 2017 #8
Agreed Lithos Nov 2017 #9
That's what they finally got Agnew on IIRC /nt Still In Wisconsin Nov 2017 #10
Capone as well. unblock Nov 2017 #18
you missed... getagrip_already Nov 2017 #12
Missed being BIG, FAT SEXIST PIG !!!! Leave my birth contol alone !!!!! trueblue2007 Nov 2017 #22
was just thinking of this today D_Master81 Nov 2017 #13
New York AG Schneiderman is on the money laundering and RICO (Enterprise Corruption, in New York) More_Cowbell Nov 2017 #15
How is it that Mueller is able to pass info. to Schneiderman - not sure I understand how the diva77 Nov 2017 #20
Obstruction of justice should also be a slam dunk. nt tblue37 Nov 2017 #23
I wanna wait until at least next summer and take Pence will him. Hamlette Nov 2017 #14
don't forget about Ryan as well! diva77 Nov 2017 #21
Definitely RICO! DoctorJoJo Nov 2017 #19
He probably is penniless already, but his Ponzi scheme hasn't quite collapsed yet. nt tblue37 Nov 2017 #24
JoJo, the whole damn bunch will always have work... KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2017 #28
"But he's our treasonous pussy grabber." L. Coyote Nov 2017 #25
Are members of Congress even required to READ the charges against him... world wide wally Nov 2017 #26
RICO violations is where they will nail him. secondwind Nov 2017 #27
Just eating well-done steak with ketchup should be worth 5 years hard labor. Buns_of_Fire Nov 2017 #29
K&R orangecrush Nov 2017 #32
But hurry. zentrum Nov 2017 #34
If treason is suspected, can trump, be arrested Miigwech Nov 2017 #35
K & R UTUSN Nov 2017 #36

Doitnow

(1,103 posts)
16. Didn't know better----baloney. How come he ALWAYS promotes stuff for the 1%. Never makes
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 12:53 AM
Nov 2017

a "mistake" benefiting the middle class.

byronius

(7,392 posts)
2. A moderate list.
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 11:23 PM
Nov 2017

It'll do.

One wonders, as an American -- if a foreign government secretly invades and controls the highest levels of our government, are we bound to policy enacted while the invasion was active?

Asking for a friend. Name of Gorusch.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
3. It's not his job to declare what is or isn't an impeachable
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 11:27 PM
Nov 2017

offense, but rather, it's the job of the House. Mueller won't be making those types of opinions or recommendations.

RDANGELO

(3,433 posts)
4. OK. That's what there will be evidence for.
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 11:30 PM
Nov 2017

As I understand it, He does have the authority to indict him.

More_Cowbell

(2,190 posts)
17. I actually think it's worse
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 12:53 AM
Nov 2017

I bet that Mueller has not only the women who have accused Trump in the past, but also the elusive "Maria" (not her real name), the 13-year-old he's said to have raped at a house connected to Epstein. She's backed down before, because of threats from Trump supporters, but I hope she can cooperate with Mueller. I believe the people like Louise Mensch who say that other nations have that tape. If so, it might be those countries that release it, not us.

Sadly, after this week we know that the GOP's base of evangelicals won't leave them over assaults of children. But it's still a crime, and I hope he gets what's coming to him over it. Even if it takes down other people (Epstein was friends with people like Bill Clinton and Prince Andrew-- not that I think they're involved in that child's rape, but there are some barriers to reporting, I think).

getagrip_already

(14,700 posts)
12. you missed...
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 12:17 AM
Nov 2017

Conspiracy
Fraud
Misapprpriation
Racketeering
Perjury
Espionage
Kidnapping

And probably a bunch of other crimes.......

D_Master81

(1,822 posts)
13. was just thinking of this today
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 12:22 AM
Nov 2017

I actually think he'll get him on money laundering, possibly foreign campaign contributions, but probably not. Then it will be an arguement of how much did trump know type of thing w/ repubs saying he was the head of the organization, it was people below him doing it. Just my 2 cents. I dont have high hopes

More_Cowbell

(2,190 posts)
15. New York AG Schneiderman is on the money laundering and RICO (Enterprise Corruption, in New York)
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 12:48 AM
Nov 2017

I won't be surprised if Mueller is passing all of that on to Schneiderman to deal with.

Obstruction is the easiest thing to get people on. For instance, the FBI and Mueller knew what emails Kushner had, and they asked him for emails solely because they knew he wouldn't produce all of them. Obstruction. Every tweet that Trump puts out about the ongoing investigation is obstruction.

I think that Trump will eventually resign on the basis of the federal charges. But it will be Schneiderman who takes every asset the Trumps have, in his enterprise corruption case. He was the one who pursued charges related to Trump University; he loathes Trump.

I'm prepared to settle for the Trumps being broke, and some of them (Jared and Don Jr., probably) in prison. I'd rather Trump himself was in prison for conspiracy, but I don't think I'll get that.

It's amazing that now we can look back and think, "Of COURSE Trump's casinos failed; they were never meant to succeed. They were just money laundering vehicles."

diva77

(7,639 posts)
20. How is it that Mueller is able to pass info. to Schneiderman - not sure I understand how the
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 01:18 AM
Nov 2017

Fed vs. State bureaucracies work with each other.

Hamlette

(15,411 posts)
14. I wanna wait until at least next summer and take Pence will him.
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 12:27 AM
Nov 2017

Then Nancy Pelosi will be our President in 2019!!

 

DoctorJoJo

(1,134 posts)
19. Definitely RICO!
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 12:57 AM
Nov 2017

Beauty there is that it is unpardonable and the financial damages are so punitive that it could leave him penniless! People would like to see him dead, but that is the LAST thing I hope for--it would make him a martyr to his ignorant fans. I want him to live a long time in prison, knowing his family is penniless and he is universally hated, and then forgotten!

JoJo

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,489 posts)
28. JoJo, the whole damn bunch will always have work...
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 05:27 AM
Nov 2017

...on Fox News or talk radio. At least those that don't go to jail.

Mark my word, they will be filling guest slots or have their own shows for many years.


world wide wally

(21,740 posts)
26. Are members of Congress even required to READ the charges against him...
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 02:26 AM
Nov 2017

Or is it like a tax bill or something where they just vote party line?

Buns_of_Fire

(17,174 posts)
29. Just eating well-done steak with ketchup should be worth 5 years hard labor.
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 06:17 AM
Nov 2017

Add on the Crimes Against Fashion and Affronts to Good Taste:
Addiction to Tic Tacs
Orange spray-on tan
The hair!
Deportment unbecoming even a WWE wrestler
Orb-fondling
Allowing his daughter to marry a dipwad
Freakishly long tie
Never buttoning jacket
Mammoth ass
Panty lines

He'd be lucky to get out in time to meet Barron's grandchildren.

I think I'd go with Obstruction first, though. That looks to be open-and-shut, even with only the information publicly available.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
34. But hurry.
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 09:51 PM
Nov 2017

Before the tax bill passes. Because after the Repugs get that--they won't care about him and the country will be in ruins for a generation of suffering.

I know this level of speed isn't possible---but please wake up people! Trump will have done his damage whether he's here or gone.

I think we need to get into the streets massively over this tax bill vote.

 

Miigwech

(3,741 posts)
35. If treason is suspected, can trump, be arrested
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 09:52 PM
Nov 2017

and removed from the White House , taken directly to jail?

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