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Eugene

(61,872 posts)
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 11:56 AM Nov 2017

Virginia judge won't force count of 55 absentee ballots in close delegate race

Source: Washington Post

Virginia judge won’t force count of 55 absentee ballots in close delegate race

By Rachel Weiner and Laura Vozzella November 17 at 12:45 PM

A federal judge in Alexandria declined Friday to force a count of 55 absentee ballots that could help determine control of the Virginia House of Delegates.

In the race to fill the seat held by retiring Speaker William J. Howell (R-Stafford), Republican Robert Thomas is ahead of Joshua Cole by 82 votes. Cole’s campaign filed suit arguing that 55 absentee ballots that arrived in Stafford County the day after the Nov. 7 election were late because of postal-office problems and should be counted.

Judge Claude M. Hilton disagreed.

“These ballots were late,” he said. Everyone, Hilton added, wonders sometimes “what’s wrong with the mail.” But he saw no evidence of “improprieties” here.

Cole’s campaign pointed to an email sent to state officials the day after the election by Greg Riddlemoser, general registrar of Stafford County, saying that “there is no possible way in my military mind that these ballots should not have been available to us on Election Day before close-of-polls.”

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Virginia judge won't force count of 55 absentee ballots in close delegate race (Original Post) Eugene Nov 2017 OP
How awesome for the revolution that Donald gets to life-appoint judges all over the nation ! Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #1
Who the hell appointed this judge? Roland99 Nov 2017 #2
Reagan. 1985. Igel Nov 2017 #5
Sickening how little regard Repukes have for democracy Roland99 Nov 2017 #7
I just want to point out the obvious. There is no way that 55 ballots could change outcome of the LisaL Nov 2017 #3
How dare you! Heather MC Nov 2017 #4
I was getting ready to open my calculator--thanks! Lulu KC Nov 2017 #6
Doesnt matter. This is blatant disenfranchisement Roland99 Nov 2017 #8
by itself no dsc Nov 2017 #11
Was this that race where the election worker "forgot" to go to the post office box? DFW Nov 2017 #9
The USA is in freefall on its way to NoMoreRepugs Nov 2017 #10
I thought in a democracy every vote counts blueinredohio Nov 2017 #12
They do, sure. But even if every single Codeine Nov 2017 #13
Tell me again how we support our troops. TomSlick Nov 2017 #14
Sadly, we only take the counting of late military absentee ballots seriously... Kaleva Nov 2017 #15
Um, no. Late Florida ballots from military were counted in 2000 and Bush won. SharonAnn Nov 2017 #16
There was no DU then Kaleva Nov 2017 #17
In this particular case, I already pointed out that there isn't enough ballots to change the outcome LisaL Nov 2017 #18
there was a huge difference in these ballots and the ones we are discussing now dsc Nov 2017 #20
Who is talking about Florida? Kaleva Nov 2017 #21
They should appeal to the Supreme Court - for whatever that might be worth. Vinca Nov 2017 #19
 

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
1. How awesome for the revolution that Donald gets to life-appoint judges all over the nation !
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 11:58 AM
Nov 2017

Will make the revolution much much yummier! Good luck to our next generations.

Igel

(35,300 posts)
5. Reagan. 1985.
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 12:13 PM
Nov 2017

Sort of a moot point, though.

I wonder how many other precincts around the country had absentee or mail-in ballots picked up the day after elections. If it's done in one district at federal-judiciary command shouldn't it be done everywhere?

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
3. I just want to point out the obvious. There is no way that 55 ballots could change outcome of the
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 12:01 PM
Nov 2017

election where difference is 82 votes. It's not enough to make up for the difference.

dsc

(52,157 posts)
11. by itself no
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 12:56 PM
Nov 2017

But we have recounts for a reason there could be other errors which combined with the 55 would be enough

DFW

(54,363 posts)
9. Was this that race where the election worker "forgot" to go to the post office box?
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 12:37 PM
Nov 2017

I heard there was one where the ballots were received "late" because the poll worker responsible neglected to go to the post office on election day and get the mail. That is NOT a case where the ballots arrived late. That is a case where they were deliberately ignored.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,415 posts)
10. The USA is in freefall on its way to
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 12:52 PM
Nov 2017

banana republic status insofar as free and honest elections are concerned.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
13. They do, sure. But even if every single
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 01:17 PM
Nov 2017

ballot in the late batch were for the Democratic candidate the 'Puke would still win. It really doesn't matter.

TomSlick

(11,097 posts)
14. Tell me again how we support our troops.
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 01:27 PM
Nov 2017

That is unless they want to vote, or want their widow's respected, etc.

Another meaningless pseudo-patriotic platitude.

Military people aren't fooled. We know that current members and veterans are simply used and not respected.

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
15. Sadly, we only take the counting of late military absentee ballots seriously...
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 01:38 PM
Nov 2017

when it may change the outcome of an election in our favor.

We are just being hypocritical when we only care about the military vote during certain circumstances but don't give a shit in all other elections.

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
17. There was no DU then
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 02:28 PM
Nov 2017

What I'm saying is that the outrage over the not counting of late military absentee ballots seems to be selective. I can't recall a single post over the years where someone was angry that late military absentee ballots weren't counted in an election where the counting or not counting of such would have made no difference to the outcome.

In reading on the subject, military absentee ballots not being counted because they don't arrive in time is a rather common thing.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
18. In this particular case, I already pointed out that there isn't enough ballots to change the outcome
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 02:48 PM
Nov 2017

So clearly you suggestion isn't accurate.

dsc

(52,157 posts)
20. there was a huge difference in these ballots and the ones we are discussing now
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 08:43 PM
Nov 2017

The ballots in Florida had been mailed after the election and may well have been cast after the election (they didn't have any indication of what date they were filled in and sealed). The ballots in VA were cast before the election. There is no doubt of that since they arrived at the post office on election day.

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
21. Who is talking about Florida?
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 08:55 PM
Nov 2017

In elections all across this nation, it is routine for military absentee ballots to arrive late for any number of reasons and not be counted.

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