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trof

(54,256 posts)
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 07:38 PM Nov 2017

Presidents who should have resigned because of a sexual dalliance:*

*According to today's moral judgement.

Rumored and/or proven, before or during their time in office.

George Washington (slave)
Thomas Jefferson (slave)
Chester A. Arthur
Grover Cleveland (child out of wedlock)
Warren G. Harding
Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Dwight David Eisenhower
John Fitzgerald Kennedy
Lyndon Baines Johnson
George H.W. Bush
William Jefferson Clinton
Donald John Trump

I'm just guessing that there are more that we don't know about.
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/46315332/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/presidents-their-mistresses-who-cares/

What's your point?
My point is that men/people who seek (and achieve) power over others are as susceptible to hormonal influences(?), urges, drives, whatever as the rest of us.
But... there seems to be something about BEING in a position of power that short circuits the restraints that most of us have.

Harry S. Truman didn't have it.
Jimmy Carter didn't have it.
Barack Obama didn't have it.
And to give credit where credit is due, George W. Bush didn't have it.

Comments?
Discussion?
Thanks.
trof




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Presidents who should have resigned because of a sexual dalliance:* (Original Post) trof Nov 2017 OP
But we need to distinguish between a voluntary "dalliance" The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2017 #1
True trof Nov 2017 #7
You left out FDR MiniMe Nov 2017 #2
Oh hell. i did. I'll fix it. trof Nov 2017 #6
Missy Lehand trof Nov 2017 #8
All of these presidents also have 3 names. Coincidence? Initech Nov 2017 #3
Some people say women are attracted to power. I wouldn't know, not being a woman and never having rzemanfl Nov 2017 #4
It has been rumored that GWBush had affairs before being president Angry Dragon Nov 2017 #5
I cut some slack for before office. trof Nov 2017 #9
Truman was faithful, just saying. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2017 #10
To whom? trof Nov 2017 #11
Bess. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2017 #12
OK, something weird happened here. trof Nov 2017 #14
A study showed that an increase in power increases testorone for men SharonAnn Nov 2017 #13
I think your count may be low flotsam Nov 2017 #15
Grant. Who knew? trof Nov 2017 #16
I don't know flotsam Nov 2017 #17

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,610 posts)
1. But we need to distinguish between a voluntary "dalliance"
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 07:41 PM
Nov 2017

and sexual assault. Most of the presidents on your list had consensual affairs; Trump groped and assaulted women.

rzemanfl

(29,554 posts)
4. Some people say women are attracted to power. I wouldn't know, not being a woman and never having
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 07:48 PM
Nov 2017

had much power to wield.

trof

(54,256 posts)
14. OK, something weird happened here.
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 08:27 PM
Nov 2017

Of course Truman.
But the reply you got was meant for another response.
???

SharonAnn

(13,771 posts)
13. A study showed that an increase in power increases testorone for men
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 08:24 PM
Nov 2017

Increased testosterone increases risky behavior.

flotsam

(3,268 posts)
15. I think your count may be low
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 08:59 PM
Nov 2017

We know that until Clinton the info was basically embargoed until the President was safely buried. Washington and Jefferson were finked out by dna in offspring. From Jefferson until just recently, lacking offspring you could take your secret to the grave. As far as I know U S Grant could have been our randiest president...

flotsam

(3,268 posts)
17. I don't know
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 09:15 PM
Nov 2017

But I heard he was practicing a surrender and forced his tongue into Mary Chesnut's mouth...

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