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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 11:36 AM Nov 2017

Joy Reid hands the New Yorker a little dose of reality.

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Take a step back and remember how politically explosive it would have been, a year ago, to know that the Trump campaign was colluding with WikiLeaks.




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More Joy Reid Retweeted The New Yorker
This Is beyond absurd. Russia-Wikileaks-Trump collusion has been my 10am A and or B block on #AMJoy since at least last July. This story was fully knowable to all who could see past Her Emails.


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Joy Reid hands the New Yorker a little dose of reality. (Original Post) Miles Archer Nov 2017 OP
Article with plenty of examples of how msm let trump lie his ass off Gabi Hayes Nov 2017 #1
+1 Roland99 Nov 2017 #2
NPR is as serious an offender as any other media outlet Orrex Nov 2017 #12
Couldnht agree more, but the nyt and wapo were just as egregious in their coverage Gabi Hayes Nov 2017 #13
Fresh Air is gold, and I'll fight anyone who says otherwise! Orrex Nov 2017 #14
Science Friday's with Ira Flatow - I've learned so much from that show Hestia Nov 2017 #17
Liked him since Newtons Apple Gabi Hayes Nov 2017 #22
I always thought his name was Ira Plato. :)))) pangaia Nov 2017 #35
1A sucks. pangaia Nov 2017 #25
NPR is bad, worse than most others. They are neutered by the right wing press. sharedvalues Nov 2017 #20
Joy Reid is a treasure DesertRat Nov 2017 #3
Joy is a joy to watch!! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #31
Does she mean July 2016? LisaM Nov 2017 #4
Good question. swag Nov 2017 #11
I've watched her from the beginning radical noodle Nov 2017 #27
That's what I figured. LisaM Nov 2017 #37
Yes if gibraltar72 Nov 2017 #5
Joy is right on. At the same time, KPN Nov 2017 #6
Mueller won't be swayed by the general public's misunderstanding of the law Mr. Ected Nov 2017 #7
Mueller won't, no, but I don't have complete confidence in the American public on this KPN Nov 2017 #9
Nor the courts. pangaia Nov 2017 #26
No kidding. KPN Nov 2017 #36
I don't think money laundering radical noodle Nov 2017 #28
Hope you're right about that. KPN Nov 2017 #39
I hope so too radical noodle Nov 2017 #40
Yup. One of my uncles was a Nixon diehard KPN Nov 2017 #41
Nixon may have been a crook radical noodle Nov 2017 #42
There are none so blind... Mountain Mule Nov 2017 #8
Kick dalton99a Nov 2017 #10
And they never learn LiberalLovinLug Nov 2017 #15
They set EVERYTHING MFM008 Nov 2017 #16
so whr was the fbi before the election? questionseverything Nov 2017 #18
The New Yorker has been nearly the BEST publication on the current political disaster sharedvalues Nov 2017 #19
Agreed. I get it in the mail weekly; thank you, kind sis Gabi Hayes Nov 2017 #23
They have been great. progressoid Nov 2017 #24
I agree radical noodle Nov 2017 #29
Yes. Thank you. klook Nov 2017 #32
Every media outlet is responsible for the current POS pbmus Nov 2017 #21
Not anymore... n/t radical noodle Nov 2017 #30
DAMN STRAIGHT Skittles Nov 2017 #33
K&R UCmeNdc Nov 2017 #34
Thank you Joy! C'mon Turd publicly colluded with Wikileaks at least 147 times ON TV! lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #38
The New Yorker has sucked for decades. ucrdem Nov 2017 #43
"boil the frog" has been successful if Joey is posting about it Demonaut Nov 2017 #44

Orrex

(63,172 posts)
12. NPR is as serious an offender as any other media outlet
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 01:26 PM
Nov 2017

Desperate to avoid the dreaded "Liberal" label, and wholly beholden to their corporate benefactors, NPR takes care not to bite the hand that feeds it by looking too closely at Republican bullshit.

Even the ordinarily excellent On the Media has had a distressingly soft touch about the Trump administration.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
13. Couldnht agree more, but the nyt and wapo were just as egregious in their coverage
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 01:30 PM
Nov 2017

I just found some real nuggets in there

I quit listening to them, with exceptions like fresh air and radio lab, a long time ago

That horrid show Marketplace, is a particularly good example of how far they skew to the right

Thx for bringing that up....was in a hurry

Orrex

(63,172 posts)
14. Fresh Air is gold, and I'll fight anyone who says otherwise!
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 01:39 PM
Nov 2017
This American Life and Reveal are also terrific.

You're right about Marketplace, and I'd add that The 1A is also pretty bad. Their flagship news programs Morning Edition and All Things Considered are where I see the worst examples of coddling the GOP.

Also correct about The NYT and WAPO. Aside from a few outliers and a few bright spots, the media as a whole is complicit, to be sure.
 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
22. Liked him since Newtons Apple
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 10:31 PM
Nov 2017

How long ago was that?

The two “flagship” shows are
are sad, empty husks of what they once were. Mara ffffing Liasson? Cokie Roberts?

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
35. I always thought his name was Ira Plato. :))))
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 11:11 AM
Nov 2017

Great hour...

I think he just left that show, no?

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
25. 1A sucks.
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 12:35 AM
Nov 2017

Shitty name.
Shitty dude with an obnoxious attitude. Repeats every question so he can stay relevant, has no interst in anything, just, "we're up against a break."

Luckily I'll never here that phrase again as I just can't stand to listen to him any more.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
20. NPR is bad, worse than most others. They are neutered by the right wing press.
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 05:53 PM
Nov 2017

Yes, NPR gets a lot of corporate money.
Here's a good summary of why NPR bends over backwards to be anti-left:




radical noodle

(7,997 posts)
27. I've watched her from the beginning
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 01:49 AM
Nov 2017

and she was talking about Russia last summer 2016 with Malcolm Nance. His book about it was already out.

KPN

(15,635 posts)
6. Joy is right on. At the same time,
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 01:19 PM
Nov 2017

I fear the New Yorker opinion piece has some merit -- this Russia thing seems to be getting "normalized" ... like it's no big deal in this day and age for any politic organization to have routine contacts spanning the globe (even though they are frankly treasonous in this case).

Personally, I am deeply concerned that too many Americans are falling prey to this "normalization" and hope that Mueller springs some major indictments including collusion and vote count hacks SOON ... so that the outcome to the Trumpsters is not minimized in any fucking way!

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
7. Mueller won't be swayed by the general public's misunderstanding of the law
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 01:21 PM
Nov 2017

There will be a hundred million Americans learning a whole lot about law and jurisprudence in the coming months.

KPN

(15,635 posts)
9. Mueller won't, no, but I don't have complete confidence in the American public on this
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 01:25 PM
Nov 2017

nor the MSM given it's contributions to "normalization" already.

radical noodle

(7,997 posts)
28. I don't think money laundering
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 01:51 AM
Nov 2017

would be considered the new normal by most and I have a feeling that could be one of the charges. Of course, treason would be even better for Flynn who tried to undermine US policy by working for Erdogan.

radical noodle

(7,997 posts)
40. I hope so too
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 07:53 PM
Nov 2017

There will always be some who cling to trump no matter what. There were some still supporting Nixon after he resigned.

Mountain Mule

(1,002 posts)
8. There are none so blind...
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 01:22 PM
Nov 2017

The members of cult 45 are dedicated to sleepwalking thru their lives. They refuse to look at reality. They knew the story a year ago and they know it now and they just don't care. The New Yorker shouldn't give them a pass.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,164 posts)
15. And they never learn
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 01:52 PM
Nov 2017

After the illegal and pointless Iraq invasion, they were somewhat contrite. That only cost America thousands of lives and billions of dollars and blowback in the form of ISIS. Gee I wonder what their propping up Trump and demonizing Hillary to even out the horse race will cost us in the end?

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
19. The New Yorker has been nearly the BEST publication on the current political disaster
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 05:51 PM
Nov 2017

I like Joy.

But the New Yorker has been absolutely great since about October 2016. And the New Yorker didn't go wild on the Emails. (The NYTimes did).

Listen to this podcast with the New Yorker editor:
https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/the-ezra-klein-show/e/51526503

Best line by Remnick, New Yorker editor:
"[This president with the GOP and with his administration] is a national emergency."

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
23. Agreed. I get it in the mail weekly; thank you, kind sis
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 10:35 PM
Nov 2017

Always something of value, especially on the Russia front

Pieces that die there, unfortunately

progressoid

(49,944 posts)
24. They have been great.
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 11:01 PM
Nov 2017

Unfortunately, they only reach a million or so of us. And we're those over educated, latte sipping, Prious driving liberals.

We need to get the word out to the middle of road types.

radical noodle

(7,997 posts)
29. I agree
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 01:53 AM
Nov 2017

I get the New Yorker and it's been terrific. Also David Corn in Mother Jones. Even The Atlantic has had a few good pieces.

pbmus

(12,422 posts)
21. Every media outlet is responsible for the current POS
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 09:38 PM
Nov 2017

In the White House...

Look up Chris Matthews hour long interviews with the Biggest Con...he and MSNBC was selling this POS SINCE THE FOREVER.

http://www.msnbc.com/hardball/watch/20-years-of-trump-trump-on-running-for-office-982673475725

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
38. Thank you Joy! C'mon Turd publicly colluded with Wikileaks at least 147 times ON TV!
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 01:21 PM
Nov 2017

How disingenuous to pretend it's all a big surprise now.

What's new is the back-door communication, and the explicit awareness that the Turd campaign knew Wikileaks was a Russian cutout.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
43. The New Yorker has sucked for decades.
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 01:59 AM
Nov 2017

David Remmick turned an occasionally boring cultural icon into a completely boring old-news-a-teria, with occasional gems of course. JMHO.

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