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Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 06:01 PM Nov 2017

If net neutrality is repealed, what do we do next?

How long before we see changes in speeds and access? What can we set up? Do we boycott companies like netflix and amazon to force them to put pressure on the FCC and FTC? Do we stop buying and bring the economy to a halt?

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If net neutrality is repealed, what do we do next? (Original Post) Ilsa Nov 2017 OP
I thought not buying shit maxrandb Nov 2017 #1
Lol by then it'll be too late Kimchijeon Nov 2017 #13
This is why they want to damage & remove Sen Franken Wwcd Nov 2017 #2
I just had an idea. Start paying bills in cash. Get a whole bunch of people who know and rzemanfl Nov 2017 #3
Only a supermajority of democrats in the Senate and a democrat in the WH after 2020 no_hypocrisy Nov 2017 #4
Those who said there was no difference between republicans and Democrats were wrong still_one Nov 2017 #5
How long after will sites like DU be taken out? Doreen Nov 2017 #6
I'm wondering about this, too, and what we Ilsa Nov 2017 #8
$125 per month I would not have internet at all. Doreen Nov 2017 #15
Paying $80/mo and that isn't Ilsa Nov 2017 #16
I pay 117 for cable, internet, and landline. Doreen Nov 2017 #18
DU already has templates for different 'defcon' levels BadgerKid Nov 2017 #20
I read today (on Dailykos?) that the chances of a successful bagelsforbreakfast Nov 2017 #7
I wonder how long that would take? nt Ilsa Nov 2017 #9
Don't know but I assume (maybe incorrectly) that the change would be on bagelsforbreakfast Nov 2017 #11
The Internet Dyedinthewoolliberal Nov 2017 #10
Exactly. The internet is part of the commons. Ilsa Nov 2017 #12
Remember when America was a world leader? Now bagelsforbreakfast Nov 2017 #14
wait for a Dem to take the oval office again. JHan Nov 2017 #17
Why would we boycott netflix and amazon - they supported net neutrality rules onenote Nov 2017 #19
First of all, how about not panicking? brooklynite Nov 2017 #21
My work requires cable connection, and only one Hortensis Nov 2017 #22

maxrandb

(15,295 posts)
1. I thought not buying shit
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 06:08 PM
Nov 2017

And bringing the economy to a fucking halt should have been the reaction to Donnie Short Fingers in the White House.

By now, I thought we'd be up to pitchforks and guillotines in the public squares.

But hey, if it takes a slow connection to Netflix to finally get people's attention, I'll take it!

Kimchijeon

(1,606 posts)
13. Lol by then it'll be too late
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 06:58 PM
Nov 2017

(Hoping NN is saved) anyway, the big ones like Netflix can afford to pay the cost, hence we hear nary a fuckin peep from major sites to raise awareness.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
2. This is why they want to damage & remove Sen Franken
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 06:09 PM
Nov 2017

Sen Franken has been fighting for 1st Amendment & Net Neutrality a long time.

Trump intends to end it.

This is why he is being targeted via the typical RW smear campaign that they use on everyone who threatens their agenda for total power.

This was Sen Franken back in July, 2014
Worth a Read:
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http://thehill.com/policy/technology/211607-franken-net-neutrality-is-first-amendment-issue-of-our-time?amp

July 08, 2014 - 04:08 PM EDT
Franken: Net neutrality is 'First Amendment issue of our time'


rzemanfl

(29,554 posts)
3. I just had an idea. Start paying bills in cash. Get a whole bunch of people who know and
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 06:10 PM
Nov 2017

trust each other together and have some retired guy like me take in all the bills, pay them in cash and get receipts. If the bill is $101.09 pay it with 100 singles, four quarters and nine pennies. If the next bill is $19.04, pay it with a Benjamin, and so on.

no_hypocrisy

(46,020 posts)
4. Only a supermajority of democrats in the Senate and a democrat in the WH after 2020
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 06:10 PM
Nov 2017

could fix the problem.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
6. How long after will sites like DU be taken out?
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 06:13 PM
Nov 2017

Will what we say be even more closely monitored than now? How long until they make internet basically unavailable unless you have a lot of money? I see this as an attack somewhere within it on freedom of speech or becoming an attack eventually. Is it going to take us back to dial up speed? Will we be overloaded with advertisements? Will costs go up for simply ordering things on line? Are we totally screwed as far as all of our internet freedom?

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
8. I'm wondering about this, too, and what we
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 06:52 PM
Nov 2017

can do to start preparing for it.

It might be that we will need to post fewer pics, videos, and even smilies to keep the site downloading quickly enough for those who cannot afford high speed.

A lot of people work from home. Can we write off internet expense or did the Rs remove that business deduction? Can you imagine spending $1500 a year just for internet service?

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
15. $125 per month I would not have internet at all.
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 07:34 PM
Nov 2017

Basically I would be isolated from the world except my cell phone and I am sure that is next. A lot of Americans will be isolated and I bet you that is one of their main goals.

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
16. Paying $80/mo and that isn't
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 08:00 PM
Nov 2017

even the fastest speed they offer. They just raised it $5 a month.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
18. I pay 117 for cable, internet, and landline.
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 08:36 PM
Nov 2017

This is not including the decreased basic cable my apartment complex has. I fear how much it will be if they up the internet to 125 just for internet. I will have to cancel TV and land line.

BadgerKid

(4,549 posts)
20. DU already has templates for different 'defcon' levels
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 10:16 PM
Nov 2017

They could possibly make those user-selectable depending on a user's network bandwidth.

 

bagelsforbreakfast

(1,427 posts)
7. I read today (on Dailykos?) that the chances of a successful
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 06:51 PM
Nov 2017

lawsuit against this power grab are pretty good.

 

bagelsforbreakfast

(1,427 posts)
11. Don't know but I assume (maybe incorrectly) that the change would be on
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 06:57 PM
Nov 2017

hold till the case was resolved one way or the other.

Dyedinthewoolliberal

(15,546 posts)
10. The Internet
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 06:56 PM
Nov 2017

was conceived, created and perfected using tax dollars. We should be demanding free, high speed internet access for everyone. Hell, we paid for it!

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
12. Exactly. The internet is part of the commons.
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 06:58 PM
Nov 2017

My understanding is that other nations pay less than half what we pay, and it's for the highest speeds.

 

bagelsforbreakfast

(1,427 posts)
14. Remember when America was a world leader? Now
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 06:59 PM
Nov 2017

Internet - NO
Healthcare - NO
Political freedom from Corporate domination and Oligarchy - probably way down on the list
Economic Equality - Are u kidding? Do you have to ask?
And I should have added in addition to the above Sexual Maturity and relations between the sexes. I'd assume Finland and Iceland whomp us among others on that. We may be last with our Evangelical Prudism, Corporate Male powerplays and (not going to name the 3rd but it figures in there for pushback).

onenote

(42,581 posts)
19. Why would we boycott netflix and amazon - they supported net neutrality rules
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 08:59 PM
Nov 2017

I fear one of the reasons we're losing this battle is that a lot of people don't understand it.

brooklynite

(94,333 posts)
21. First of all, how about not panicking?
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 10:19 PM
Nov 2017

Nobody was throttling access speeds for specific sites BEFORE net neutrality was passed; let's not imgaine what will happen until it does.

Now, if it DOES happen, the simplest action is...take your business elsewhere. Most people seem to think they have no options, but most markets have far more options than you're aware of: http://www.dslreports.com/

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
22. My work requires cable connection, and only one
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 04:18 AM
Nov 2017

cable server is available in our area. And we can't afford to maintain a second server also.

I'm sure this is not only about profits. It will be used as a form of seizing the radio stations. That's not panic, it's awareness.

"One risks underestimating how intense the struggle for power is going to be." -- David Frum
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