"They call her Pocahontas"

[Stinky The Clown]

I watched Toxic Don for the brazillionth time and the word "They" kept jumping out at me.

THEY call her Pocahontas?

THEY

What are "they"?

The word is YOU, shitgibbon. YOU call her Pochahontas. NO one else does, at least not in public. At least not to a group of Native Americans who are being honored.

[demtenjeep]

2. I have Cherokee in me on my mother's side. I proudly say it

but I am sure it is more than 1/32

in fact, my father used to say the amount is so little it got lost.

I am with Senator Warren.

[Xipe Totec]

4. Damn! I didn't get a chance to respond before the post got removed

I've done genealogical research on my family going back 300 years. You know what? I haven't found a single Native American appearing as such in the records. But, my DNA testing shows that my mytochondrial DNA belongs to haplogroup A2. Meaning that my direct female ancestor belongs to the group that crossed the Bering Straits 14,000 years ago. End of story.

[StevieM]

6. Actually, I am hoping that you will continue your story because I am really interested.

Does direct female ancestor mean going all the way back up your maternal line? Meaning your mother's mother's mother's mother, etc?

If it does then a lot of Native American tribes, pre-Dawes Rolls, would have said that you are a Native American. And if you are a woman, and you have children, then they would be considered Native American.

[Xipe Totec]

7. That's exactly what direct female ancestor means

mytochondrial DNA is only inherited from your mother. So that means that my mother's mother's mother's... mytochondria, going back 14,000 years was passed on from mother to daughter till it got to me, a male. That's where my story ends. My children inherited their mytochondrial DNA from their mom, who is European. I have one sister, and she had one daughter. So that mytochondrial line will continue through her, so long as she has female descendants.

[StevieM]

10. I hope your sister and niece cherish their heritage. I think it is super cool.

Actually, it would be cool if your niece had 2 or 3 daughters to keep the lineage going. Has she talked at all about this stuff?

[Xipe Totec]

11. She's a PhD psychologist and 'devoted to her career'...

We're hoping her biological clock will kick in at some point....

[StevieM]

13. Well, I'm a fine one to talk. I don't have any children either. And it isn't such a good idea to

advise someone about whether or not to have children, unless you are directly asked.

But just in case she asks....there are at-home methods that can be used to increase your chances of having a child of a particular gender, if you have a preference.

Forgive me if I was too inquisitive about your family. But you piqued my interest. I have long been curious about Native American ancestry through matrilineal descent.

[Xipe Totec]

14. Glad I piqued your curiosity

Tracing maternal ancestry is tough. Take my word for it; I devoted two years of my life to family genealogy. Every single generation changes last name on your maternal line. It is maddening!

Very rewarding, though.

[HockeyMom]

32. Tell me about it

lol Nice that Spanish culture passes on mother's surnames to their children in addition to their father's. It is becoming more widespread today with married women. YES!

[HockeyMom]

31. Can you help me understand DNA results?

My daughter did a DNA test and was very surprised to not get any German from her Dad. Having traced both sides of the family, her results are a listing of the countries of all her female ancestors, both maternal and paternal sides.

My basic understanding is that because she is female she would not have gotten any of the countries which were carried on the male Y chromosome, in this case Germany, from her Dad. He only gave her his X chromosome from his mother's DNA. These are the countries which her results show.

Is this the basic concept? Her sister is taking the test. I told her that I didn't think she would get any German results either. So if Elizabeth Warren has Native blood it would have to come from a Native female ancestor?

Sorry to get OT with this.

[Xipe Totec]

33. That's a tricky question to answer without misleading you

We have 23 chromosomes, 22 of which are carried in pairs by both sexes. the 23rd chromosome, the sex chromosome, can be either x or y. Females carry 2 x, while males carry one x and one y.

You inherit half of each pair of chromosomes 1 tru 22 from your mom, and for the 23rd chromosome you inherit half of your mom's X chromosome pair, and from your dad you inherit either his X or his Y chromosome. If you get the X from your dad, then you will be female. If you get the Y, then you will be male.

So your daughter inherited half of her dad's genes; 22 halves plus the X.

It's not really correct to say that she only got her dad's 'female' ancestors, since 22 of the 23 genes have nothing to do with sex at all, and her dad may have gotten those genes from either female or male ancestors.

What is true, is that she did not inherit the Y chromosome, which comes from direct male to male ancestry, and can give insight into ancestry going back tens of thousands of years, and can point to origins before Europe was populated or Germany even existed.

In my case, I am 70% Iberian peninsula (Spain/France), but my Y chromosome is middle eastern (Iraq/Iran). So, although my ancestors have been in Mexico for five centuries, and their ancestors came from Northern Spain, my Y chromosome points to a more ancient lineage that migrated to the Iberian peninsula probably thousands of years ago.

[HockeyMom]

35. I traced parts of the family back to 16th Century

My husband's male line and my Dad's male line. My daughter got 20% range from my husband's mother's Lithuanian line and 20% range his paternal grandma's Swedish line. My side? She also got nothing of my Dad's British male line but did get teen percentages of my Dad's mother's Irish line. Mothers ruled with her, which is why I asked.

My side? My Maternal Grandma always said her family migrated from Spain to Italy. Problem is she never said which side of her family, father or mother. Her cousin spent years in Sicily tracing the male line back to the 17th Century. Nothing from Spain. My daughter got 4% Iberia on her DNA results. Grandma must have been right about something. Given that 4% Iberia on her DNA results I am going to guess my Grandma was talking about her mother's heritage not her father's? As another poster said, it is difficult going genealogical research on mother's lines with surname changes.

Because of my daughter's DNA results, I am doing mine to get a clear picture of this, especially that Iberia result.

Maybe we need to start a Genealogy/DNA thread here on DU??? lol

[MyOwnPeace]

19. Wait! Does that mean...........

you could be related to Sarah Palin?

(I'm sorry - perhaps that may be offensive. If so, please just disregard - no offense intended!)

[Xipe Totec]

23. Offensive, no. Puzzling yes. But maybe I've misunderstood her all along

[MyOwnPeace]

25. Ah, finally!!!!!!!!1

I have seen the lights - from the North!!!!

Thank you!!!!!!!!

[MFM008]

29. Me to

My Mom's dad was half Cherokee.
Honored.

[CakeGrrl]

3. Pathological inability to take personal responsibility

Unless it's about claiming credit for something positive, he deflects to anything that he doesn't want coming back on him.

Never mind that HE AND ONLY HE has used the term, repeatedly, in public.

[malaise]

5. Well Stinky Groper Don the Con has several personalities

One of them calls Liz Warren Pocahontas.

[ProudLib72]

8. Are you sure It isn't referring to the demons possessing him?

The old refrain from all the possession horror movies keeps playing in my head: The demons say, "We are legion for we are many!"

I believe this analogy pairs well with his "evangelicalism".

[malaise]

12. Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

[irisblue]

17. Plausible indeed.👍

[roamer65]

9. They call him Dotard.

[Puzzler]

15. My partner is First Nations, and NOT smiling

Neither am I.


-Puzzler

[certainot]

16. they are the talk radio base - that's why warren is called that - limbaugh and sons

have been doing it for years, since she first ran.

this is all because dems ignore talk radio - trump, all this bullshit. even the russian trolls piggybacked it.

[bettyellen]

30. So, he should have said "we" then.

[disambiguation]

18. They, you know

the other five voices in his head.

[Shoonra]

20. It takes a singular lack of tact ....

Even I know better than make a disparaging joke about someone's Amerindic ancestry in a room crowded with other Amerindics.

[George II]

21. When I watched that earlier today I had the same thought - not "THEY", but "I", i.e., HIM!

[Leith]

22. He Also Called Her a Representative

The damn fool doesn't know that she's a senator, not a representative.

And he's a fucking stupid racist.

[BigDemVoter]

24. What a FUCKING LOSER.

Every time I think that toxic piece of shit has embarrassed us to the max, he proves me wrong. I fucking LOATHE him.

[grantcart]

26. I would love to have a camera on Trump when someone explains to him

that he is a descendent of mitochondrial Eve, and that he comes we from Africa.

[Zoonart]

27. I watched this several times...

and it seems to me that the way. he delivered this remark... it was practiced and delivered as if he were telling a joke and the punchline is... wait for it..".they call her Pocahontas." He had his hand on the honoree's shoulder and looked as if he expected a laugh, like a high school bully. He is really sick.

[oberliner]

28. Washington Times, Gateway Pundit, Sean Hannity

The whole RW media echo chamber.

[loyalsister]

34. We shouldn't pretend that Trump is an anomaly

Romanticizing a tragic story perpetuates the myth of kindness among early colonizing forces.

Pocahontas was eventually baptized and married off to a man who took her to England where she died when she was 22 yrs old.