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babylonsister

(171,031 posts)
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 08:51 AM Nov 2017

Pierce: Operation 'Please Get a Win' Is Underway

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a13943293/republican-tax-plan-cbo-hurt-poor/


Operation 'Please Get a Win' Is Underway
And it's not going so well.
By Charles P. Pierce
Nov 27, 2017


The Congressional Budget Office is back to harsh the holiday mellow of Speaker Paul Ryan, the zombie-eyed granny-starver from the state of Wisconsin, and his fellow travelers in both houses of the national legislature. Against the shortest possible odds, as it wends its way through a process controlled almost entirely by Republicans, the proposed tax plan is getting worse, not better, and harsher on the middle and lower classes, not more equitable, and more profitable for the people who buy Ryan his $300-a-bottle vino, not less.

I may have to retire to my chambers briefly to recover from the shock, lest I faint dead away. From those commie bastids at Forbes:

The agency subtracted changes in federal spending for different income groups from the change in federal revenues allocated to each group. Essentially, the analysis looked at how much effect increased taxes from a group and decreased spending on the same group had on overall deficit estimates. The groups hit hardest — the ones providing a reduction to federal deficits — are the poorest. According to the estimates, anyone making less than $30,000 a year would feel the pinch starting in 2019, with the greatest "savings" to the government (again, a combination of either increases in payments or decreases in money spent on a group in services) coming from those who make less than $10,000 a year. By 2010, everyone making $40,000 or less a year would also be contributing to lowering the deficit by paying more in taxes and/or receiving less in services, creating a net savings for the federal government. In that year, the groups making between $10,000 and $20,000 and between $20,000 and $30,000 would each be contributing double what the under-$10,000 group did in savings.


Confronted by the CBO’s estimate, Orrin Hatch, Republican of Utah and true son of the soil, told a group of reporters that included Alice Ollstein from Josh’s joint, “I don’t think they’re right.” Well, OK.

A somewhat overlooked factor in the creation of what is the most singularly unpopular piece of legislation since the last time the Congress tried to blow up the Affordable Care Act is that the Republican majorities are so desperate to pass something before each of their members is greeted by three spirits on Christmas Eve, they’re throwing things willy-nilly into the bill in order to wrangle the more recalcitrant among their number to vote to pass it. So they have to put something in to please Ron Johnson, and something else to please Susan Collins, and trying to do both is no way to craft legislation that more than half the country already believes is a scheme to shove even more of the country’s wealth upwards. I know the legislative process can be frustrating and messy, but this is like watching someone bailing out the Titanic with a garden rake.

Meanwhile, the passage of the bill remains far from a sure thing. Steve Daines, Republican of Montana, still says he can’t vote for it and, over the weekend, James Lankford, Republican of Oklahoma, told the apparently omnipresent Ms. Ollstein that he is no better than a weak “maybe,” and, fascinatingly, also telling her that the catastrophic failures of Republican economics in Kansas and in his home state are giving him pause. From TPM:

“We can’t ignore the debt and deficit issues,” he said. “As conservatives, we’ve said for a long time that to get ahead of the deficit we have to control our spending and have a growing, healthy economy. Well, if we use all of the tax reductions to just offset, we’ll never get on top of it.” Lankford, a member of the key Senate Finance Committee that hashes out tax policy, said Republicans need to learn from what happened over the past few years in Kansas, where deep tax cuts sent the state into a fiscal crisis, forcing cuts to public school funding, roads, retiree pensions, and state universities. “Those of us in Oklahoma and Kansas and the middle of the country have seen some of this in our own state legislatures,” Lankford said. “It’s important to learn from what we’ve seen.”


Glorioski, is Arthur Laffer’s magic napkin losing its mojo with these people? That would be a Christmas miracle of the first order.

Not for nothing but, if it passes, this tax bill also will devastate higher education, especially at the graduate level, and it will turn churches into dark-money generators, and that’s to say nothing of what will happen down the road to seniors, and the disabled, and people who are simply struggling to get by. But if Ron Johnson can be made happy, and if the president* can Get A Win, and Paul Ryan can stay on someone’s tab, then we can all bask in the warm glow of the holidays, I guess.
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Pierce: Operation 'Please Get a Win' Is Underway (Original Post) babylonsister Nov 2017 OP
K&R... spanone Nov 2017 #1
Excellent read. K & R Achilleaze Nov 2017 #2
We've reached the tipping point... ewagner Nov 2017 #3
JH Fin C Cosmocat Nov 2017 #4
"IF" any Republicans honestly opposed Trump, this would be their opportunity world wide wally Nov 2017 #5
The venality of the House and Senate GOP is appalling FakeNoose Nov 2017 #7
"By 2010, everyone making $40,000 or less a year would also be contributing to lowering the deficit L. Coyote Nov 2017 #6

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
2. Excellent read. K & R
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 08:54 AM
Nov 2017

"The groups hit hardest — the ones providing a reduction to federal deficits — are the poorest..."

ewagner

(18,964 posts)
3. We've reached the tipping point...
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 09:27 AM
Nov 2017

...that point where the facade of policy is stripped off to show the basic, underlying greed and corruption of the Republican Party.

When the Congressman from Oklahoma calls out the GOP philosophy that turned Kansas into a nightmare, then you know the leadership has gone too far.

Cosmocat

(14,558 posts)
4. JH Fin C
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 10:34 AM
Nov 2017

It has been plainly obvious to me my entire adult life, since the early 90s, that the only purpose of the R party is to screw the bloody hell out of the 95% of the country.

And, what we have seen in drastic form over that time is that they went from their well rehearsed talking points to pretty it all up in the 90s to where we are today that they aren't even trying to bullshit around it.

AND, we still have the same dynamics with the voters in this country - our 1/3 bashing our heads of the wall, their 1/3 blissfully going along with whatever cluster fuck they are pushing and the "middle" 1/3 in a hopeless state of PTSD in a corner sucking their thumbs because "they both suck!"



world wide wally

(21,735 posts)
5. "IF" any Republicans honestly opposed Trump, this would be their opportunity
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 11:03 AM
Nov 2017

to put a check on his power by handing him a defeat on taxes.
Now you will see the truth about who they really are. Don't be fooled by their words when they speak out against his ignorance next time.

FakeNoose

(32,568 posts)
7. The venality of the House and Senate GOP is appalling
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 11:20 AM
Nov 2017


Are they all toadies of the special interests, or does it just seem that way?

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
6. "By 2010, everyone making $40,000 or less a year would also be contributing to lowering the deficit
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 11:08 AM
Nov 2017

Operation, catch up to real time. Isn't it 2017 already?

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