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The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,669 posts)
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 11:33 PM Nov 2017

Shrink on LO'D's show talking about how Trump is basically nuts.

He seems just sane enough that his GOP supporters can pretend he hasn't jumped the rails; but he slips into a delusional state when he's stressed, and this makes him very dangerous. He's mad in a way that he can sometimes seem like he isn't mad, so he's more like a villain in a Bond movie.

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Shrink on LO'D's show talking about how Trump is basically nuts. (Original Post) The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2017 OP
I concur WomanWhoRoars Nov 2017 #1
Lance Dodes summed it up brilliantly Bradshaw3 Nov 2017 #2
Yeah I'm not feeling better learning that our President is a sick man dem4decades Nov 2017 #3
I came in late but sounded like he was describing borderline tendencies. nolabear Nov 2017 #4
No he wasn't discussing borderline tendencies Bradshaw3 Nov 2017 #7
Yes I know who he is. I dont know him but we have friends in common. nolabear Nov 2017 #8
Dodes didn't say so specifically but it seems like Trump is decompensating. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2017 #9
Working late on the West Coast, will catch the rerun. VOX Nov 2017 #5
yes saw that. triron Nov 2017 #6
In Addition queentonic Nov 2017 #10
Now I'm going to have the theme from "Goldfinger" running through my head all night. Buns_of_Fire Nov 2017 #11

Bradshaw3

(7,507 posts)
2. Lance Dodes summed it up brilliantly
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 11:37 PM
Nov 2017

He said that, like a Bond villain, dump has a veneer that he is very good at selling to people, but that that veneer covers up a psychopathy or sociopathy - and his supporters are believing the veneer.

While we spend a lot of time on here talking about the duped believing his con, the underlying mental illness is, of course, what is truly dangerous to us and the rest of the world.

dem4decades

(11,282 posts)
3. Yeah I'm not feeling better learning that our President is a sick man
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 11:42 PM
Nov 2017

And nothing he does is supposed to surprise us.

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
4. I came in late but sounded like he was describing borderline tendencies.
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 11:44 PM
Nov 2017

People typically refer to NPD with 45 and I wouldn’t argue with that. But there’s also Borderline Personality Disorder, called that because it’s on the border between neurosis and psychosis. Stressors can push one toward the psychotic end, resulting in delusional, frantic thinking and behavior. It’s possible to have NPD with borderline tendencies. I’m not sure if that’s what he was saying but today I think he could make a case for it.

Bradshaw3

(7,507 posts)
7. No he wasn't discussing borderline tendencies
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 11:50 PM
Nov 2017

I watched the interview and stand by my brief synopsis above. He was saying dump is mentally ill but very good at covering it up.

Here is Dodes' bio;
http://www.lancedodes.com/bio/

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
8. Yes I know who he is. I dont know him but we have friends in common.
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 11:55 PM
Nov 2017

“Mentally ill” doesn’t mean anything. Nothing specific. Sounded as though he was saying he is increasingly delusional and functions in some ways (as with manipulating others) and doesn’t in others. But as I said I caught the end so didn’t hear what idea he was supporting.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,669 posts)
9. Dodes didn't say so specifically but it seems like Trump is decompensating.
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 11:59 PM
Nov 2017

Someone else on my teevee suggested that earlier this evening. He's unstable and the more stressed he gets the more delusional he gets, which might explain why he lies about things that can easily be proved.

queentonic

(243 posts)
10. In Addition
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 12:02 AM
Nov 2017

Dr. Dodes on LOD also said that the Dumpster slips into a psychosis when under stress which accounted for his delusional thinking and that the Dumpster could literally do anything because he is not in control of himself. For someone who lived with a partner who had psychotic episodes, this is scary stuff because it will only get worse without medical intervention. The Dumpster needs to be on some serious medications that would possibly render him dysfunctional for lengthy periods of time. 25th Amendment here we come.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,174 posts)
11. Now I'm going to have the theme from "Goldfinger" running through my head all night.
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 12:28 AM
Nov 2017

Trumpfinger... he loves only gold... he loves gooooooooooooold!

Spray paints his victims (and everything else) with gold Rust-Oleum (or has OddBannon do it)... "Mr. Mueller, this is my personal assistant, Ivanka Galore."... Cheats at golf (and owns the club)... "Tell your colleagues that operation MAGA will have my undivided attention."... Likes to play with nuclear devices...

Geez, maybe he thinks he is Goldfinger -- conveniently forgetting how that movie ended.

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