Joe Scarborough: Sources close to Trump say he has 'early stages of dementia'

[workinclasszero]

Joe Scarborough: Sources close to Trump say he has ‘early stages of dementia’
Andrew Wyrich— Nov 30 at 3:24AM

Morning Joe host Joe Scarborough said on Thursday morning that people close to President Donald Trump told him during his campaign that Trump had “early stages of dementia.”

Scarborough and fellow host Mika Brzezinski addressed Trump on Thursday, saying that the president was “completely detached from reality.” They also urged Trump’s cabinet members to invoke the 25th Amendment, which allows for members of the administration to declare that the president is unfit for office, as tensions escalate between Trump and North Korea.

“We are facing a showdown with a nuclear power and you have somebody inside the White House that the New York Daily News says is mentally unfit, that people close to him say is mentally unfit, that people close to him during the campaign told me had early stages of dementia,” Scarborough said.

Brzezinski jumped in, adding that some people might say suggesting Trump has dementia is “not OK to say,” but added: “But at this point, it’s reality.”

https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/scarborough-trump-early-stages-dementia/

[eppur_se_muova]

1. "Early" ????

Relative to WHAT ?

[Wounded Bear]

4. IKR?

He had "early" stages during the election.

[lagomorph777]

8. It will be "late" stages when he can't lift a fork anymore.

And so far, it appears he is very capable of lifting a fork.

[Thor_MN]

22. My exact thought.

They do say that dementia is like falling off a cliff, that although the disease is steady progressing, that one can compensate - up to point.

I'd say that Dolt45 is getting very close to the edge and relying on others to keep him from taking that last step.

[zipplewrath]

38. Not quite a cliff

I'd say more of a very steep hill. If he is, he won't make it 4 years. I've been saying this since the spring. He reminds me of my father before we knew what was going on. IF it is happening, right now he is in the stage where he is making stuff up to try to cover up what is going on. The next thing I'm watching for is difficulty with proper nouns. If he starts to shift to over use of pronouns, that's gonna be a big clue. Another thing to pay attention to is if they stop having him give speeches or anything. But he may be able to do teleprompters for a long while.

Quite honestly, if this is happening, I suspect the family already knows. I suspect they thought they could surround him and keep it hidden, but that isn't panning out. At some point I suspect they'll just let the chips fall where they may.

[Thor_MN]

39. Yes, not a vertical cliff.

But it is a unavoidable fall at some point. Once you are on the downward slope there is no going back and it steepens greatly towards the end. The damage to the brain is gradual and more or less constant, but one can cope up to a point. Virtually every system in the body is over-engineered, to need 100% of the output of an single system would be dangerous. But once one gets to the point that the entire available output is not sufficient to deal with daily activities, other systems will get dragged down with it and the end is not far.

[bearsfootball516]

2. What a shocker

[brush]

3. Now they're doing this? Where were they on this during the campaign when they smoozed on the air...

with him for hours and hours of free air time?

It's sickening. All they were thinking about then was their ratings, now they're concerned for the country?

[bathroommonkey76]

7. It's all part of the plan to let Donnie get away with

collusion with Russia.

[Wwcd]

11. + a million My opinion as well.

*

[workinclasszero]

10. The same place CNN was whom Trump now attacks all the time and CBS news too

Jeff Zucker’s singular role in promoting Donald Trump’s rise
By Margaret Sullivan Media Columnist October 2, 2016

Looking for someone specific to hold responsible for the improbable rise of Donald Trump?

Although there are many options, you could do worse than to take a hard look at Jeff Zucker, president of CNN Worldwide.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/jeff-zuckers-singular-role-in-promoting-donald-trumps-rise/2016/10/02/7c3d4366-865b-11e6-a3ef-f35afb41797f_story.html

Leslie Moonves on Donald Trump: "It May Not Be Good for America, but It's Damn Good for CBS"
11:26 AM PST 2/29/2016 by Paul Bond

Leslie Moonves can appreciate a Donald Trump candidacy.

Not that the CBS executive chairman and CEO might vote for the Republican presidential frontrunner, but he likes the ad money Trump and his competitors are bringing to the network.

"It may not be good for America, but it's damn good for CBS," he said of the presidential race.

Moonves called the campaign for president a "circus" full of "bomb throwing," and he hopes it continues.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/leslie-moonves-donald-trump-may-871464

[enough]

5. Anybody near Trump, personally or professionally, who knows this and covers it up

is a traitor.

[Wwcd]

6. bull sh... he' s always been an asshol*

If anything dementia should affect lifelong assholes like trump in an opposite way.

He's no different now than he was early in life.

[marylandblue]

19. Same narcissist as always, but he's changed

If you look at 20 year old videos you can see he used to speak in normal sentences, now he sounds fragmented and confused. That would be consistent with early dementia.

[Hekate]

32. Depends on the person, but in my experience with a couple of folks, essential parts ...

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...of the personality remain. The shouter who was always right remained a shouter who was always right. The restrained philosophical lady remained so. These traits remained until the dementia was well-advanced, when they didn't remember their nearest and dearest and were hallucinating. The cognitive deficits were very evident long before then, though., and they were unable to manage their former lives.

As people have kept "diagnosing" Trump with various lifelong personality disorders and mental disorders, I and others kept pointing out that none of that rules out the onset of dementia. Many people here have had extensive experience with watching family members and others make that long slide into mental chaos and oblivion, and have seen this all over Trump like a cheap stained suit for over a year.

His family has been controlled by the force of his outsize personality for so long they know no other way of life. His business is essentially a family-run business, top-down with him bellowing and manipulating people. They don't have the mental capacity to come to grips with this. I have a kind of horrified fascination, but no sympathy at all.

[Wwcd]

34. " I have a kind of horridied fascination, but no sympathy at all."

Same here.
I just want them to disappear back where they came from. Or prison.
What a horrid family

[Hekate]

37. Horrified. Sorry for the typo.

[safeinOhio]

9. Brain MIR and standard

Memory test.
We demand it.

[L. Coyote]

12. That was two years ago per the obvious signs.

[bearsfootball516]

13. I'm curious as to how definite his sources are, though

Do his sources just "think" that he has dementia, or has Trump been looked at by a doctor and they said "Yeah, he has dementia."

The signs that he has it are all over the place.

-Saying that the US bombed Iraq when he meant to say Syria

-All of the times he went to sign a bill and then forgot to, walked away and had to be told to come back

-Clear decrease in vocabulary compared to interviews in the 80s and 90s

-Struggling to stay on topic or forgetting the subject

-Increased amounts of confusion in the evening (sundowning)

-Constant angry tirades

[workinclasszero]

18. I think Twitler's latest batshit insane tweet storm

really got people...worldwide...scared about a hateful senile bastard with his fat pinkie on the End the World button 24/7.

[marylandblue]

20. I doubt Trump would let a qualified doctor near him

Why do you think he has that crazy gastro in New York?

[workinclasszero]

35. I agree

Hitler had his own personal doctor as well...hmm.

[spanone]

14. bullshit. no excuses for this asshole.

[BannonsLiver]

15. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

Except for Donald Trump.

[lpbk2713]

16. You don't have to be close to Trump.

It's pretty obvious to anyone who knows the signs.

[matt819]

17. Or maybe late stage

Or maybe late stage. However, I don’t dismiss the possibility that this is all a ruse. Sure, he’s a malignant narcissist and a sociopath and all around vile person. But with indictments coming, he may have no other defense than the fucking mad as a hatter or senility options in order to stay out of jail.

So it’s a double-edged sword. He so unstable he can’t be president. But if he so unstable due to being a lunatic or having dementia, then he can’t be prosecuted.

[marylandblue]

23. He doesn't sound so different from 2 years ago

If it's a ruse, it's not to avoid prosecution, but to dumb everything down for the rubes.

[Freethinker65]

21. Havent most of us been saying/thinking this since the early campaign?

I know I posted perhaps two years ago my concerns...his lack of vocabulary, repetitiveness, sometimes blank expression on his face, the need to be surrounded by familiar places (golf courses and owned properties), need of close family around him at every turn, unsteadiness on stairways, obsessiveness, generally all of the bad traits he possessed earlier in life being magnified, etc. mirrored what my now diceased father with vascular dementia exhibited.

If he had this prior to starting the campaign, I doubt it is really still “early stage”. My dad lived in the present (with lots of help) until the end. He was oriented in time and space, recognized people and was relatively up with current events, but his personality changed and even he knew he was no longer trusted to be making important decisions. He alternated between being angry and frustrated at his deterioration with being depressed. It was hard on everyone.

I blame Trump and everyone around him for letting this man in obvious mental decline “lead” this great country.

[Orrex]

24. He should be sentenced to the healthcare that most of his supporters can afford

[MFM008]

25. How about the early stages

Of rigor mortis??

[FarPoint]

26. Ohhh.

This is tRumps escape Claus....he's just a hateful man...He knows Mueller is closing in on the misfits.....now, he won't have consequences due to " dementia"....

[underpants]

27. So I'm guessing no News Year Eve party crashing at Mar-a-lago this year?

[progressoid]

28. Bullshit excuse. Doesn't explain his actions for the last decade.

[Eliot Rosewater]

29. What he has is late stages of rich prick who doesnt care if we all DIE if that

is what has to happen to make him rich.

And the ONLY reason we have to tolerate it is deplorables.
Dumb as a rock deplorables.

[Gothmog]

30. Trump has been showing signs of senility for some time

[OnDoutside]

31. I'd say Joe is looking for a twitter tirade reaction from Donnie.

[NastyRiffraff]

33. Told him "DURING THE CAMPAIGN"

So why are we only hearing about this NOW, Joe?

Scarborough pimped Trump for most of the campaign, and NOW he says he was told Trump had "early stages of dementia." He didn't think it was worth mentioning at the time, when it might have done some good.

[Deb]

36. Then sources close to him

Need an arse kicking for not publicly advocating for his healthcare needs. This goes beyond politics. Imho