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kpete

(71,961 posts)
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 05:13 PM Nov 2017

BREAKING: OFFICIAL, NONPARTISAN SCORE (JCT) Senate tax bill will explode the debt by $1 TRILLION

BREAKING: OFFICIAL, NONPARTISAN SCORE (JCT): Senate tax bill will explode the debt by $1 TRILLION—even after accounting for economic growth.




Senate GOP tax bill would add $1 trillion to deficit, report says, contradicting White House promise that plan would pay for itself

Senate Republicans’ tax plan would add $1 trillion to the national deficit over 10 years, even after the economic growth that the bill would create is taken into account, Congress’s nonpartisan Joint Committee on Taxation reported.

The analysts projected the plan would increase economic growth by a yearly average of 0.8 percent over the next decade, but they said the tax revenue produced by the growth would fall far short of offsetting the bill’s costs.

Several Senate Republicans have said they would be hesitant to support a bill that adds to the deficit, a potential hurdle for GOP leaders as they seek to pass the measure late Thursday or Friday.

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BREAKING: OFFICIAL, NONPARTISAN SCORE (JCT) Senate tax bill will explode the debt by $1 TRILLION (Original Post) kpete Nov 2017 OP
BUT OBAMA budkin Nov 2017 #1
Okay,did not see any Wellstone ruled Nov 2017 #2
Republicans Achilleaze Nov 2017 #3
but rtracey Nov 2017 #4
K&R... spanone Nov 2017 #5
I thought it was 1.4 trillion. pnwmom Nov 2017 #6
Their deficit trigger plan Mr.Bill Nov 2017 #8
It's textbook Republicanism. ChiTownDenny Nov 2017 #15
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker Nov 2017 #7
They don't give a fuck. Drahthaardogs Nov 2017 #9
I can only hope that Mueller's team has the enforcement portion down when it comes time to ffr Nov 2017 #10
K&R red dog 1 Nov 2017 #11
Watching the debate on cspan Egnever Dec 2017 #18
Yeah, it looks like the Turtle will get his necessary 50 votes red dog 1 Dec 2017 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author red dog 1 Dec 2017 #25
Accounting for economic growth that has never happened with tax cuts? Thor_MN Nov 2017 #12
but but but..... trickle down groundloop Nov 2017 #14
Which will be used to justify additional cuts... TomCADem Nov 2017 #13
I read $1.44 trillion. 58Sunliner Nov 2017 #16
This one includes 400 billion in bullshit 'economic growth' KelleyKramer Dec 2017 #17
They pull off more magic than Dr. Strange DFW Dec 2017 #19
does one even need to be an expert to know this would happen ? JI7 Dec 2017 #20
K&R UCmeNdc Dec 2017 #21
Irrelevant, since they don't give a flying *&%. lindysalsagal Dec 2017 #22
no problem according to Mnuchin mnmoderatedem Dec 2017 #23
And this probably already assumes huge cuts to safety nets set by budget. nt wiggs Dec 2017 #26
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
2. Okay,did not see any
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 05:27 PM
Nov 2017

Projections when the Economy tips later next year. And it will. Those who doubt,I give up.

 

rtracey

(2,062 posts)
4. but
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 05:29 PM
Nov 2017

But here is the response I saw on twitter today... it seems to resonate. many on the right responded with " look at the amount of debt the Obama administration ran up from 2008-16..... 9 trillion.... yes we know of the 2007 meltdown and the other aspects of the spending during that time, but thats NOT what the right sees, they just see 9 trillion dollars.....

pnwmom

(108,955 posts)
6. I thought it was 1.4 trillion.
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 05:30 PM
Nov 2017
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/11/30/16716860/senate-tax-bill-deficit-trigger

All told, the bill would increase the deficit by $1.4 trillion in the first 10 years, and then uses budget gimmicks and rosy math to make it seem like the national debt is untouched in the long run. Though many have waved away concerns in favor of getting a tax bill done, some conservative purists, like Sens. Jeff Flake (R-AZ), James Lankford (R-OK), and Corker, have signaled that the plan isn’t fiscally conscious enough.

And so they’ve floated a deficit trigger plan — one that in the past 24 hours has taken many shapes, from budget cuts to increasing the corporate tax rate.
 

ChiTownDenny

(747 posts)
15. It's textbook Republicanism.
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 07:57 PM
Nov 2017

Blow up the deficit then claim there isn't enough money to pay for social safety net programs and they must me cut.

ffr

(22,665 posts)
10. I can only hope that Mueller's team has the enforcement portion down when it comes time to
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 06:55 PM
Nov 2017

lock these motherf-er's up.

red dog 1

(27,767 posts)
11. K&R
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 07:01 PM
Nov 2017

This doesn't seem to bother John McCain..he's for the Senate tax bill.

I wonder what Susan Collins & Lisa Murkowski think about this new development?
What about Jeff Flake?
(McConnell can get it through if only 2 GOP senators vote No)

red dog 1

(27,767 posts)
24. Yeah, it looks like the Turtle will get his necessary 50 votes
Fri Dec 1, 2017, 07:26 PM
Dec 2017

and there's nothing Senate Dems can do to stop it, unfortunately.

Response to Egnever (Reply #18)

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
12. Accounting for economic growth that has never happened with tax cuts?
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 07:18 PM
Nov 2017

Double it to account for their magical thinking.

groundloop

(11,513 posts)
14. but but but..... trickle down
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 07:40 PM
Nov 2017

We've seen the results of repub trickle down smoke and mirrors before, the result is always the same.

TomCADem

(17,382 posts)
13. Which will be used to justify additional cuts...
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 07:31 PM
Nov 2017

...which is the plan. Screw the poor and middle class in favor of the 1 percent.

KelleyKramer

(8,901 posts)
17. This one includes 400 billion in bullshit 'economic growth'
Fri Dec 1, 2017, 05:42 AM
Dec 2017

It's a huge giveaway to corporations and the super rich

DFW

(54,277 posts)
19. They pull off more magic than Dr. Strange
Fri Dec 1, 2017, 06:09 AM
Dec 2017

How can they possibly do the deficit such incredible damage, cut health care for over ten million Americans, invoke double taxation by making state taxes no longer deductible, threaten social security, and still get tens of millions of votes from they very people they will be hurting?

And yet, the Republicans will vote for them like the condemned man who votes for his executioner. The problem is that their executioner is also ours.

lindysalsagal

(20,581 posts)
22. Irrelevant, since they don't give a flying *&%.
Fri Dec 1, 2017, 07:24 AM
Dec 2017

It is their criminal plan to explode the deficit. and put it all in their own grimy pockets.

mnmoderatedem

(3,722 posts)
23. no problem according to Mnuchin
Fri Dec 1, 2017, 07:31 AM
Dec 2017

sez the tax plan will not only pay for itself, but will grow to a surplus of 1 trillion.

How that guy can say any of the crap he says with a straight face is beyond me.

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