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I remember a lot of posts on DU throughout the year about who should run in 2020, but I don't recall ever seeing her name. Duers are usually ahead of the trends, so I take this to mean that she is a fairly recent phenomenon. Have I just not been paying attention?
JI7
(89,240 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,121 posts)jalan48
(13,841 posts)democratisphere
(17,235 posts)Absolutely no longer believe she is Presidential Candidate material.
questionseverything
(9,645 posts)can i ask what you ever liked about her?
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Hyperbole Much.
You must think my senator, Bill Nelson, is a fascist!
Never let your anger at someone lead you to making ridiculous accusations.
I do not think much of her either, but ultra conservative? Come on, man.
questionseverything
(9,645 posts)Estate tax[edit]
On several occasions, Nelson has voted to reduce or eliminate the estate tax,[45] notably in June 2006, when he was one of four Democrats voting for a failed (5741) cloture motion on a bill to eliminate the tax.[46]
Withholding funding from the CIA[edit]
In 2007, Nelson was the only Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee to vote against an amendment to withhold funds for CIA use of enhanced interrogation techniques on terrorism suspects. His vote, combined with those of all Republican members of the committee, killed the measure.[47]
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so pro torture and wants to eliminate the estate tax ,while i wouldn't call fascist,ultra conservative works
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)And you are obviously outside of the mainstream of democratic party members if you think Bill Nelson is a conservative. No, wait, ultra conservative as you said.
Regardless, Bernie Sanders type candidates will never win in states like Florida. Wont even when the Democratic primary for that matter. And thank God for that. Nelson has done a good job representing his state.
Im thinking there are no elected officials who pass your muster.
questionseverything
(9,645 posts)TORTURE
those prisoners hanging from meathooks with hoods on their heads,open wounds bleeding, while their genitals were shocked..cringe worthy stuff
now i wish i hadn't looked him up
so for that..we had to move forward...but serial hugging...that's where we draw the line
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)He must be doing something right.
On edit- I must be getting old. Obama won it twice. However I'm pretty sure a Democrat, beside Bill Nelson, hasn't won a senate race, a gubernatorial race, or a cabinet race this century.
I do think Gwen Graham has a good shot. The Graham brand used to be gold in Florida. The problem is it's such a transient state there are many newcomers who don't remember what a good senator and governor Bob Graham was.
questionseverything
(9,645 posts)it was in the over votes....about 2/3s of 275,000 votes where the voter wrote in the candidates name and punched by his name, were for gore but the machines kicked them out...can't vote twice on 1 ballot
gore was conceding just as lance de haven smith was presenting the overvote theory
so sad
i would really hate to lose bama because the machines say we did
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029955431
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)But back in the real world most of us live in he is the best we will get in Florida.
And a pretty good best. Florida Democrats love Nelson.
brush
(53,742 posts)to run for Hillary's senate seat.
Suddenly she was progressive.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)And consider the term blue dog a slur on Democratic members who someone disagrees with so I am not convinced.
Come on man.(or woman) I did not call her a conservative. Convince me she is a conservative. She pro-life? Support the republican tax bill? Against net neutrality? Must be something for her to be a conservative.
Here is hint. Not every member of the Democratic Party who disagrees with your positions is a conservative. And if you jettison them from the party we will always lose.
brush
(53,742 posts)tritsofme
(17,370 posts)questionseverything
(9,645 posts)Many saw Gillibrand as moderate or conservative. The American Conservative stated after her eventual victory, "Gillibrand won her upstate New York district by running to the right: she campaigned against amnesty for illegal immigrants, promised to restore fiscal responsibility to Washington, and pledged to protect gun rights."[24]
and the big tobacco thing
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)moderate redumbliCONs. I would like to see HRC replace her in the next elections for State Senator.
questionseverything
(9,645 posts)hrc would win back her senate seat in a heartbeat but i doubt that would happen,during the last presidential campaign her idea about moving medicare to 55 didn't get enough attention
but trump sucked up all the air
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)Something needs to done with our criminal enterprise healthcare system. At least we know HRC does substantive things when she is in office.
brooklynite
(94,341 posts)questionseverything
(9,645 posts)but here is something i support that you will hate
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029955431
you know silly me thinking WE THE PEOPLE should oversee our own elections
brooklynite
(94,341 posts)questionseverything
(9,645 posts)Wayne Hynum Do you realize how incredibly stupid it was for you and your lynch mob to set this precedent, that any Democrat accused of even minor wrong doing has to leave Congress before any determination of whether the alleged offenses even occurred, while Repub...See More
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Wayne Hynum I also wonder, do you really it is "democratic" for a handful of Senators to nullfy the votes of over a million Minnesota voters? Shouldn't it be up to the people of Minnesota? Franken represented them, not you. It looks like you have joined the authoritarian movement.
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Wayne Hynum Hey Kirsten Gillibrand. I suddenly remember you touched my butt several years ago. It was so humiliating. Several other men say they remember you touching them too. So resign your Senate seat immediately! See how easy it is for people to make false allegations? That's why you don't force someone out without giving them the chance to have a hearing and defend themselves.
LakeArenal
(28,802 posts)Smiley public photos where you cant quite see where her hands might be.
LexVegas
(6,031 posts)ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)infidel621
(36 posts)Give it another two years before the DNC decides who we're supposed to like and force them down our throats.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Because we voters decide the candidate.
questionseverything
(9,645 posts)Kaleva
(36,248 posts)Gillibrand has little name recognition
brooklynite
(94,341 posts)ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Schumer and Pelosi? A Senate caucus? If you prefer, "When did the Democratic Party decide". The trouble with guessing is part of my question. To me this seemed to have come on very suddenly and out of nowhere.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Not outspoken enough for me to remember her? I remember Franken, Booker, Schumer, and Harris coming up a lot.
brush
(53,742 posts)Maybe start a rock group KG and the Backstabbers.
peequod
(189 posts)customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)and every discussion I've seen of possible candidates for 2020 has had her name on it, along with at least a dozen others.
If she barely squeaks by for both her nomination and the general election next year, she'll be off the list, for sure.
NBachers
(17,081 posts)That's about been the high point. It's all downhill from there.
tirebiter
(2,532 posts)Since she inherited Hillary's spot in upper NY and got her initial momentum from Bill and Hillary's help.