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Sun Dec 10, 2017, 07:15 PM

How Long Have They Been Setting Up Gillibrand for 2020?

I remember a lot of posts on DU throughout the year about who should run in 2020, but I don't recall ever seeing her name. Duers are usually ahead of the trends, so I take this to mean that she is a fairly recent phenomenon. Have I just not been paying attention?

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Reply How Long Have They Been Setting Up Gillibrand for 2020? (Original post)
ProudLib72 Dec 2017 OP
JI7 Dec 2017 #1
InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2017 #4
jalan48 Dec 2017 #2
democratisphere Dec 2017 #3
questionseverything Dec 2017 #6
GulfCoast66 Dec 2017 #8
questionseverything Dec 2017 #11
GulfCoast66 Dec 2017 #15
questionseverything Dec 2017 #18
DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2017 #26
questionseverything Dec 2017 #29
GulfCoast66 Dec 2017 #30
brush Dec 2017 #31
GulfCoast66 Dec 2017 #36
brush Dec 2017 #37
tritsofme Dec 2017 #10
questionseverything Dec 2017 #14
democratisphere Dec 2017 #17
questionseverything Dec 2017 #19
democratisphere Dec 2017 #25
brooklynite Dec 2017 #23
questionseverything Dec 2017 #27
brooklynite Dec 2017 #38
questionseverything Dec 2017 #5
LakeArenal Dec 2017 #7
LexVegas Dec 2017 #9
ProudLib72 Dec 2017 #12
infidel621 Dec 2017 #13
GulfCoast66 Dec 2017 #16
questionseverything Dec 2017 #20
Kaleva Dec 2017 #21
brooklynite Dec 2017 #22
ProudLib72 Dec 2017 #32
lunamagica Dec 2017 #24
ProudLib72 Dec 2017 #33
brush Dec 2017 #34
peequod Dec 2017 #39
customerserviceguy Dec 2017 #28
NBachers Dec 2017 #35
tirebiter Dec 2017 #40
world wide wally Dec 2017 #41

Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 07:18 PM

1. Her name had been mentioned but just about everyone who was interested in her no longer is

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Response to JI7 (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 07:23 PM

4. I don't know of anybody, cept one diehard.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 07:19 PM

2. She's a darling of big tobacco, so that's in the plus column I guess.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 07:19 PM

3. I was recommending Gillibrand.

Absolutely no longer believe she is Presidential Candidate material.

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Response to democratisphere (Reply #3)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 07:26 PM

6. she is ultra conservative

can i ask what you ever liked about her?

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Response to questionseverything (Reply #6)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 07:32 PM

8. Ultra conservative???

Hyperbole Much.

You must think my senator, Bill Nelson, is a fascist!

Never let your anger at someone lead you to making ridiculous accusations.

I do not think much of her either, but ultra conservative? Come on, man.

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #8)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 07:46 PM

11. about nelson

Estate tax[edit]
On several occasions, Nelson has voted to reduce or eliminate the estate tax,[45] notably in June 2006, when he was one of four Democrats voting for a failed (57Ė41) cloture motion on a bill to eliminate the tax.[46]

Withholding funding from the CIA[edit]
In 2007, Nelson was the only Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee to vote against an amendment to withhold funds for CIA use of enhanced interrogation techniques on terrorism suspects. His vote, combined with those of all Republican members of the committee, killed the measure.[47]

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so pro torture and wants to eliminate the estate tax ,while i wouldn't call fascist,ultra conservative works

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Response to questionseverything (Reply #11)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 08:05 PM

15. Get a clue. You think I should vote for Rick Scott rather than Nelson?

And you are obviously outside of the mainstream of democratic party members if you think Bill Nelson is a conservative. No, wait, ultra conservative as you said.

Regardless, Bernie Sanders type candidates will never win in states like Florida. Wonít even when the Democratic primary for that matter. And thank God for that. Nelson has done a good job representing his state.

Iím thinking there are no elected officials who pass your muster.

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #15)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 08:23 PM

18. i didn't say not to vote for him but i was really surprised that he couldn't vote to defund

TORTURE

those prisoners hanging from meathooks with hoods on their heads,open wounds bleeding, while their genitals were shocked..cringe worthy stuff

now i wish i hadn't looked him up

so for that..we had to move forward...but serial hugging...that's where we draw the line

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Response to questionseverything (Reply #18)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 09:45 PM

26. I could be wrong but Bill Nelson is the only Democrat to win a statewide race in FL this century.

He must be doing something right.



On edit- I must be getting old. Obama won it twice. However I'm pretty sure a Democrat, beside Bill Nelson, hasn't won a senate race, a gubernatorial race, or a cabinet race this century.


I do think Gwen Graham has a good shot. The Graham brand used to be gold in Florida. The problem is it's such a transient state there are many newcomers who don't remember what a good senator and governor Bob Graham was.


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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #26)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 09:54 PM

29. did you realize al gore actually won florida?

it was in the over votes....about 2/3s of 275,000 votes where the voter wrote in the candidates name and punched by his name, were for gore but the machines kicked them out...can't vote twice on 1 ballot

gore was conceding just as lance de haven smith was presenting the overvote theory

so sad

i would really hate to lose bama because the machines say we did

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029955431

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Response to questionseverything (Reply #29)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 09:59 PM

30. Ok. You hate Nelson.

But back in the real world most of us live in he is the best we will get in Florida.

And a pretty good best. Florida Democrats love Nelson.

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #8)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 10:01 PM

31. She was a blue dog Dem rep until it became expedient to take Clinton money and endorsements...

to run for Hillary's senate seat.

Suddenly she was progressive.

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Response to brush (Reply #31)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 10:14 PM

36. Well, since I do not call myself a progressive and generally detest the title

And consider the term blue dog a slur on Democratic members who someone disagrees with so I am not convinced.

Come on man.(or woman) I did not call her a conservative. Convince me she is a conservative. She pro-life? Support the republican tax bill? Against net neutrality? Must be something for her to be a conservative.

Here is hint. Not every member of the Democratic Party who disagrees with your positions is a conservative. And if you jettison them from the party we will always lose.

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #36)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 10:54 PM

37. Here ya go. Read the third paragraph to find out about the self-admitted blue dog

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Response to questionseverything (Reply #6)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 07:42 PM

10. What absolute nonsense

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Response to tritsofme (Reply #10)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 07:52 PM

14. gosh that sure convinces me

Many saw Gillibrand as moderate or conservative. The American Conservative stated after her eventual victory, "Gillibrand won her upstate New York district by running to the right: she campaigned against amnesty for illegal immigrants, promised to restore fiscal responsibility to Washington, and pledged to protect gun rights."[24]

and the big tobacco thing

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Response to questionseverything (Reply #6)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 08:07 PM

17. Thought she would appeal to a broad spectrum of Democrats and

moderate redumbliCONs. I would like to see HRC replace her in the next elections for State Senator.

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Response to democratisphere (Reply #17)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 08:28 PM

19. ty for your answer..i don't agree on kg but that's ok too

hrc would win back her senate seat in a heartbeat but i doubt that would happen,during the last presidential campaign her idea about moving medicare to 55 didn't get enough attention

but trump sucked up all the air

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Response to questionseverything (Reply #19)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 09:42 PM

25. We can always hope.

Something needs to done with our criminal enterprise healthcare system. At least we know HRC does substantive things when she is in office.

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Response to questionseverything (Reply #6)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 08:34 PM

23. Name an "ultra conservative" Bill she's voted for.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #23)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 09:47 PM

27. no thanks

but here is something i support that you will hate

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029955431

you know silly me thinking WE THE PEOPLE should oversee our own elections

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Response to questionseverything (Reply #27)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 10:59 PM

38. Forgive me for being dense; WHY would I hate this?

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 07:25 PM

5. her facebook page

Wayne Hynum Do you realize how incredibly stupid it was for you and your lynch mob to set this precedent, that any Democrat accused of even minor wrong doing has to leave Congress before any determination of whether the alleged offenses even occurred, while Repub...See More
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Wayne Hynum
Wayne Hynum I also wonder, do you really it is "democratic" for a handful of Senators to nullfy the votes of over a million Minnesota voters? Shouldn't it be up to the people of Minnesota? Franken represented them, not you. It looks like you have joined the authoritarian movement.
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Wayne Hynum Hey Kirsten Gillibrand. I suddenly remember you touched my butt several years ago. It was so humiliating. Several other men say they remember you touching them too. So resign your Senate seat immediately! See how easy it is for people to make false allegations? That's why you don't force someone out without giving them the chance to have a hearing and defend themselves.

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Response to questionseverything (Reply #5)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 07:31 PM

7. Yes. There must be a million

Smiley public photos where you canít quite see where her hands might be.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 07:35 PM

9. The illuminati?

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Response to LexVegas (Reply #9)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 07:48 PM

12. It certainly seems that way!

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 07:48 PM

13. too soon

Give it another two years before the DNC decides who we're supposed to like and force them down our throats.

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Response to infidel621 (Reply #13)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 08:07 PM

16. You mean until your preferred candidate loses the primary?

Because we voters decide the candidate.

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Response to infidel621 (Reply #13)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 08:29 PM

20. getting warmed up a lil early aren't they

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 08:30 PM

21. Bernie benefits the most as Franken was the biggest threat to him in 2020

Gillibrand has little name recognition

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 08:31 PM

22. Who is "they"?

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #22)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 10:03 PM

32. The Deep State, of course

Schumer and Pelosi? A Senate caucus? If you prefer, "When did the Democratic Party decide". The trouble with guessing is part of my question. To me this seemed to have come on very suddenly and out of nowhere.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 08:39 PM

24. Funny, for me, her name always came up when talking about 2020

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Response to lunamagica (Reply #24)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 10:06 PM

33. Maybe I just didn't recognize the name?

Not outspoken enough for me to remember her? I remember Franken, Booker, Schumer, and Harris coming up a lot.

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Response to lunamagica (Reply #24)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 10:06 PM

34. She can forget that now.

Maybe start a rock group ó KG and the Backstabbers.

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Response to brush (Reply #34)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 11:00 PM

39. Gila Monster Gillibrand and Shiv Slippers

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 09:54 PM

28. I read Politico a lot

and every discussion I've seen of possible candidates for 2020 has had her name on it, along with at least a dozen others.

If she barely squeaks by for both her nomination and the general election next year, she'll be off the list, for sure.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 10:07 PM

35. Her name has been mentioned here with the enthusiasm of tepid dishwater.

That's about been the high point. It's all downhill from there.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 11:39 PM

40. She might claim the Hilary baton

Since she inherited Hillary's spot in upper NY and got her initial momentum from Bill and Hillary's help.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Mon Dec 11, 2017, 12:43 AM

41. I think she has made it a moot point now anyway.

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