Texas church members accused of starving ‘demon-possessed’ toddler and then trying to resurrect him

[hue]

Source: RAW STORY

A Texas couple fled to Mexico after a failed attempt to raise a starved toddler from the dead, police said.

Officers received an anonymous tip March 26 that the 2-year-old boy had died nearly a week earlier but was not reported, according to NBC News.

Police went to a Balch Springs home, which also operated as a church, where they were told a “rising ceremony” had been performed four days earlier in an attempt to resurrect him, the network reported.

The child’s body was taken to Mexico the next day by his parents and other members of the Congregacional Pueblo De Dios, police said.

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/04/texas-church-members-accused-of-starving-demon-possessed-toddler-and-then-trying-resurrect-him/

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RIP dear, sweet child!

[jwirr]

1. Many years ago I remember a case in Montana where they beat a child to death for the same

reason. The parents are to blame but the church should also be held responsible for this - it was their idea. I am assuming there is not enough evidence since the body is in Mexico.

[whatthehey]

2. ooh I know the answer to this one!

Mental illness.

Parental stress.

Lack of support.

But fuck it thinking a kid is possessed by demons, torturing the kid to death to get rid of the demons and then trying to resurrect him in a church will never ever have anything whatsoever to do wiith religious motivation or beliefs according to DU faithapologists...

[Arugula Latte]

4. Yes, we must always respect magical thinking, no matter how fucking stupid it is.

It's not based on facts or evidence, so obviously the delicate feelings of people who buy into it should be protected at all times!

[AlbertCat]

6. always respect magical thinking

well, dead isn't dead, y'know....



Oh wait.... yes it is!

[notadmblnd]

27. you're right

Where was this fucking god people believe in- in all of this? That's right, no-where. What these people felt they could do in the name of their god is dispicable and their non-existant god is dispicable. There's no damn mental illness at play here. Arrogance in their beliefs is what drove this.

I didn't watch the video to the end, I was afraid they would justify their actions by saying that god didn't deem the child worthy. I can do nothing more than shake my damn head at people who would defend this by saying that it's an isolated incidence and that all in all religion does more good than bad.

[Arugula Latte]

3. Religion strikes again.

[titaniumsalute]

5. Give them the electric chair...

Fuck these sick psychopaths.

[erronis]

22. Uh, doesn't that make us sick psychopaths too?

Electric chair, drawing and quartering, burning at a stake, stoning, gassing. The list does seem to go on and on. Our ways of seeking revenge/vengeance/punishment are myriad.

I do agree that if we had a way to remove this planet from these nutcakes in an instant that the Earth would be a much better place. Maybe somebody could make up a story about a Rapture and suggest they all travel to some distant location to drink a magic potion.

[titaniumsalute]

29. I usually don't get too emotional and don't advocate capital punishment

But there is a special place in hell for people who do this shit to kids. I'd like to beat them into another dimension.

[niyad]

7. kkk (kristians killing kids)

Karetaker • 9 minutes ago

Anyone that was aware of this and did not notify authorities should be charged in the boys death. That would be too rational for "Kristian Amerika", where we believe that peoples "Strongly Held Religious Beliefs" puts them in a "Special Protected Class" that absolves them from following our laws or even common sense.

Yet while the KKK (kristians killing kids) is allowed free range the children in Maryland are rounded up by the police for playing without adult supervision.

There is something seriously wrong in this country and it stems from our kristian beginnings apparently.

[Hoppy]

8. Assholes ! Starving the kid for 25 days.

[AlbertCat]

9. Once again the question arises....

Should heterosexuals be allowed to raise children?

[snooper2]

16. WTF does that have to do with anything?

[graegoyle]

19. I would assume it is a sardonic comment...

...In light of some people opposing gay marriage and adoption with the usually religious objection that a child should only be raised by one man with one woman.

[AlbertCat]

24. I would assume it is a sardonic comment...

Very good! Thanks for paying attention. (somebody calm Snooper down)

I AM sick of "children need a a mommy and a daddy.... not 2 mommies or 2 daddies" nonsense.


The things heterosexuals do to kids! Could gay parents potentially be any worse?

[erronis]

23. Great comment! Sorry somebody didn't quite "get" it.

Raising children (or dogs or spouses or etc.) is never something that happens the way we wanted, exactly.

However going into a family-generation activity with some deep mental/religious problems is probably not a good recipe for a well-done outcome.

[allan01]

10. re: Texas church members accused of starving ‘demon-possessed’ toddler and then trying to resurrect

as a Christian , this makes me SICK. This is a cult , not a church . i had a experiance in a church when i was a young boy in their school. i was prayed over and sent home with a note saying that i had the black sin of the devil in me . what a thing to say to a four year old . that incident made me who i am today . totaly democrat and maladjusted and loving it seriously folks we have some sick folk there that who need help from cult de programing groups

[procon]

11. Does this fall under those Religious Freedom laws?

Afterall, it was their deeply held religious belief that the baby must be starved to death.

[whatthehey]

18. Don't give them any ideas

One more theocratic SCOTUS nod if the RWNJs manage to grab 2016 and it's not impossible. None of the religio-loons has ever told us exactly when they would stop religious privilege (in either the modern or etymological sense). When even in true blue MN they decide that you can't prosecute parents who let a kid die on purpose rather than seek basic medical care because of their "deeply held beliefs" (Christians, natch) it's hardly a huge step to letting Texans kill them on purpose for exactly the same reason. An avoidably dead child that anybody secular would have saved is the same result. After all, to use their own jargon, sins of commission and omission are both sins of disobedience to God.

[mountain grammy]

12. I'm sure this "good Christian" church is tax exempt..

This is, thankfully, very rare, but child abuse is quite Christian.

[MrMickeysMom]

13. So, would this be termed "failed resurrection" or "murder"?

H-m-m-m-m-m-m….

[snooper2]

14. stupid ass fundies...religion STRIKES AGAIN

[derby378]

15. Can we send Dog the Bounty Hunter back into Mexico to grab these two murderers?

Just a thought...

[snooper2]

17. One lady has been arrested that was there, but is not the kids mother

Make sure not to make fun of her funny looking hat because- Religion LOL

[Scootaloo]

34. Worst. Elrond cosplay. Ever.

[jtuck004]

20. Should be on a terrorist watch list. n/t

[AtheistCrusader]

21. Roman catholic church, 1.3bn adherents, official position; demons exist and can possess people.

And we wonder where people get these stupid damn ideas.

[GOLGO 13]

25. The christian death-cult has claimed another inoccent victim of their evil.

Zombie Jesus trick didn't work for them..somehow. Poor child how he must of suffered by the very people he loved. Christian monsters.

[PeteSelman]

26. Hey! You must respect these "deeply held" beliefs.

Because nothing is more important and sancrosanct than whatever mythology a person believes in.

[Nine]

28. These people are clearly nuts.

No one on DU would defend this. It's a ridiculous strawman. What some of us object to is the preposterous idea that, for example, the Obamas walking across the street to an Easter service at St. John's Episcopal church - or any average American attending a mainstream church, mosque, or synagogue - has any sort of connection to this. Some say, "religion strikes again." One could as easily say, "Mexican immigrants strike again," or "heterosexual parents strike again." (Someone upthread did say something along those lines but meant it in a different sense.) Millions and millions of people in this country identify as both religious and Democratic. Why some people seem intent on making enemies of those people is something I simply don't understand.

[whatthehey]

30. Bull

There is no mention of national heritage or sexuality as motivations. They didn't starve their kid to death out of a feeling he wasn't Mexican enough or heterosexual enough. They killed him, torturously, because, and only because, of their religious beliefs that demon possession is real. Nothing elsde is mentioned.

Surely you can tell the difference between a stated, demonstrated motivation for a crime and an irrelevant characteristic of a criminal. Bet you could, and would, if the former wasn't religion...

I WANT to make enemies of anyone so religiously deluded they would kill a child for it. Why don't you? If that offends their religious brethren wouldn't it make sense for them to get their own extremists to calm the fuck down and stop killing kids, or doctors, or each other over taking millenia-old folk tales way too seriously, instead of whining about outsiders who rightly call them on the motivations for their evil?

[Nine]

31. What's the point?

Do the posters who reference "DU Faithapologists" and who "shake their heads at those who would defend this" honestly believe that any DUer supports the nutjobs in this story? Of course not.

Here's how stories like this always go: someone "religious" does something bad - either total crazies like these people or "sane" assholes like the ones in Indiana. You have nearly 100% DU opposition to them. Can people here be satisfied with that? Of course not. They have to make the fight about whether religion in general is the true evil. Then DUers who identify as religious start getting justifiably pissed off that they're being tied to something they had nothing to do with, don't support, don't believe in. They start complaining about "broad brush" statements directed at religion or Christianity. Then the other side says something about, "boo hoo, poor persecuted Christians." And by that time we've gone from everyone being more or less on the same side to a nice, messy, pointless case of infighting. People are still on the same side about the issues that really matter, but no one knows it anymore.

How about DUers don't make enemies of other DUers for no good reason? How about when we have a story about people starving a child to death that we assume we're all shocked and disgusted by it until someone actually states otherwise?

[PeaceNikki]

35. Oh, was that your failed alert on the post upthread? I was Juror # 6

On Wed Apr 15, 2015, 10:48 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

The christian death-cult has claimed another inoccent victim of their evil.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1067686

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

I'm a liberal Christian and so are millions of other democrats, so was MLK, etc. I deeply resent being presented as evil child killer from atheist hypocrites on this board

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Wed Apr 15, 2015, 10:56 AM, and the Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I see this post as (correctly) calling what these parents were in a Christian death cult. It is not saying all Christians are child murderers.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: How can anyone complain about the truth? Just because the complainer's faith happens to have the same label, that does not take away from the fact that in the name of their hey-zeus, they killed an innocent. Frankly, I think the post was mild, given the circumstances.

If the complainer wants to change something, I recommend they change the minds of those who killed that kid.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Perhaps they should save this alert for a different thread.
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: The people who did this are indeed monsters, and their beliefs may have played a significant part in the the crime, but religious profiling is kind of a nono, no?
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The Christian death cult is referring to those fucking assholes like in the story who let their kids die by refusing simple medical attention. Stop taking it so personally. Whether you like it or not, religion is responsible for a lot of evil shit.
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[Nine]

36. I sent no alert.

And your post strikes me as inappropriate behavior for a juror.

[PeaceNikki]

37. Your concern has been noted.

[Nine]

38. Your contribution toward lowering the level of discourse has been noted. (nt)

[PeaceNikki]

39. opinions are like assholes...

[ileus]

32. I bet he's no longer possessed...

those terrible two's...

[ileus]

33. A little better link to this story.

http://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2015/04/14/police-texas-woman-helped-starve-boy-to-rid-him-of-demon