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Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 12:07 PM Apr 2015

TSA Screeners At DIA Manipulated System To Grope Men’s Genitals

Source: CBS

DENVER (CBS4) – A CBS4 investigation has learned that two Transportation Security Administration screeners at Denver International Airport have been fired after they were discovered manipulating passenger screening systems to allow a male TSA employee to fondle the genital areas of attractive male passengers.

It happened roughly a dozen times, according to information gathered by CBS4.

According to law enforcement reports obtained during the CBS4 investigation, a male TSA screener told a female colleague in 2014 that he “gropes” male passengers who come through the screening area at DIA.
“He related that when a male he finds attractive comes to be screened by the scanning machine he will alert

Read more: http://denver.cbslocal.com/2015/04/13/cbs4-investigation-tsa-screeners-at-dia-manipulated-system-to-grope-mens-genitals/

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TSA Screeners At DIA Manipulated System To Grope Men’s Genitals (Original Post) Jesus Malverde Apr 2015 OP
I saw that. I figured it would be South Park Airport. KamaAina Apr 2015 #1
That's pretty ballsy of them Major Nikon Apr 2015 #2
Also...I wouldn't take the chance that somebody might Shoot at me. BlueJazz Apr 2015 #4
Very ballsy. MynameisBlarney Apr 2015 #8
"attractive male passengers" guess that rules me out liberal N proud Apr 2015 #3
I Call Bull! Sparhawk60 Apr 2015 #5
Oh really? Larry Engels Apr 2015 #9
He's kidding. Ed Suspicious Apr 2015 #10
Oops! Larry Engels Apr 2015 #14
Eh, stuff happens. Good day to you. Ed Suspicious Apr 2015 #19
Sorry Sparhawk60 Apr 2015 #27
It was totally clear. Responde was humor-challenged. HERVEPA Apr 2015 #30
Sometimes not being very attractive is a plus. LisaL Apr 2015 #23
"For pete sakes Tom, you don't need to go Ballistic on these guys" BlueJazz Apr 2015 #6
This is not funny this is sexual assault. warrant46 Apr 2015 #7
The DA disagreed Major Nikon Apr 2015 #11
No, she just didn't have a victim to use in the prosecution. Larry Engels Apr 2015 #13
That's not what the OP says Major Nikon Apr 2015 #15
You put a lot of weight on that conjunction. Larry Engels Apr 2015 #17
You pretended it didn't exist Major Nikon Apr 2015 #20
If there is no victim who complained then there is no reasonable likelihood of conviction. LisaL Apr 2015 #22
They have video of the victim, the TSA refuses to release it. Jesus Malverde Apr 2015 #36
The victims have been trained that being groped is a condition of getting onto the plane. LisaL Apr 2015 #21
Exactly. Larry Engels Apr 2015 #12
Try going through the TSA when you have eczema. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #16
Weird, I always hear them saying to take any liquids out of the carry on. nilram Apr 2015 #24
Maybe. I was surprised too. But I had to travel several times in March, JDPriestly Apr 2015 #25
Huh? HassleCat Apr 2015 #29
I've witnessed being told different things in adjacent lines at the same airport. Thor_MN Apr 2015 #37
I Saw It HassleCat Apr 2015 #39
This is not within 10 orders of magnitude of Abu Ghraib. Your comparison is ridiculous. HERVEPA Apr 2015 #31
Ipse dixit. Larry Engels Apr 2015 #33
Nothing would surprise me. mnhtnbb Apr 2015 #18
I worked at the Dallas/Ft. Worth airport Stryst Apr 2015 #26
TSA is one of the reasons I stopped flying... KansDem Apr 2015 #32
Someday there will be checkpoints on the highways. Larry Engels Apr 2015 #38
TSA guy, you are NOT HELPING! The homophobes will have a field day with this arcane1 Apr 2015 #28
Sexual assault does not become a joke when a man is the victim Pooka Fey Apr 2015 #34
Exactly customerserviceguy Apr 2015 #40
Bad enough I have to go through locks Apr 2015 #35

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
3. "attractive male passengers" guess that rules me out
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 12:40 PM
Apr 2015

The attractive part anyway.



We live in a very perverted world!

 

Sparhawk60

(359 posts)
5. I Call Bull!
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 12:57 PM
Apr 2015

I have to call BS on this. I have traveled countless of time and I have NEVER had this happen to me....Oh, "attractive male passengers".....well, never mind

 

Larry Engels

(387 posts)
9. Oh really?
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 01:24 PM
Apr 2015

How can you generalize so irresponsibly? From one case: your own! That is absolutely ridiculous!

 

Sparhawk60

(359 posts)
27. Sorry
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 02:56 PM
Apr 2015

My bad, The devilish twinkle in my eye that said I was joking did not translate well on the internet.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
23. Sometimes not being very attractive is a plus.
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 01:53 PM
Apr 2015

Getting through TSA appears to be one of those times.

warrant46

(2,205 posts)
7. This is not funny this is sexual assault.
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 01:10 PM
Apr 2015

But what else do you expect from some people who think it's funny or entertaining.

Its demeaning, uncalled for and sick.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
15. That's not what the OP says
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 01:35 PM
Apr 2015
Earlier this month a prosecutor from the Denver District Attorney’s Office was asked to review the case but she declined to press charges because there was no reasonable likelihood of conviction and no victim had been identified.


You can read further down and find another case where the DA declined to prosecute.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
36. They have video of the victim, the TSA refuses to release it.
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 06:58 PM
Apr 2015

The TSA filmed a sexual assault, an offense serious enough to immediately fire two employees and now is withholding said evidence of sexual assault from the public. As soon as they release the tape we'll have a victim and the DA will be able to charge these two sexual prederators.

The TSA is covering up this assault and protecting two perverts.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
21. The victims have been trained that being groped is a condition of getting onto the plane.
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 01:49 PM
Apr 2015

So they haven't come forward.

 

Larry Engels

(387 posts)
12. Exactly.
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 01:28 PM
Apr 2015

But the entire program is a form of assault, sexual or otherwise, by the TSA. That's the point of it: a mild version of Abu Ghraib. The point is to get us used to submitting to this kind of invasion of privacy, which does nothing to "protect" us.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
16. Try going through the TSA when you have eczema.
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 01:37 PM
Apr 2015

I would like to just take my little plastic bag of creams out of my bag and let them run the rest of my carry-ons through the machine, but no. They don't want me to do that. They prefer to scam all of my bags with the creams tucked inside and then stop me and feel around in my bag to find the bottles and tubes which I already offered to show them.

"TSA -- full employment for poorly educated conservatives." I'm not saying that. I'm quoting it. I forget who said it, but it stuck in my mind.

It makes no sense to tell me to keep my plastic bag of various creams and lotions in my carry-on and then delay my progress because you have to find the bag, pull it out of my carry-on and make sure it is OK.

I try to be very kind to the TSA people. They did not concoct the system they have to work in. They aren't bad people. They are OK. It's just the system that they are in. It's stupid.

nilram

(2,886 posts)
24. Weird, I always hear them saying to take any liquids out of the carry on.
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 02:16 PM
Apr 2015

Different airports, I guess.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
25. Maybe. I was surprised too. But I had to travel several times in March,
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 02:50 PM
Apr 2015

and every time I ran into that problem. I've run into it in the past too.

Maybe it is the airport as you suggested.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
29. Huh?
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 03:02 PM
Apr 2015

Which airport is that? I worked for TSA at Dulles and we always wanted all liquids, creams, lotions and gels outside the bag. Anything prescription or medically necessary was exempted from the 100 ml size limit. Passengers did report being told different things at different airports, and I have seen non-standard procedures while flying, myself. I agree with you that the system is stupid. The training is also sub-standard.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
37. I've witnessed being told different things in adjacent lines at the same airport.
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 09:14 PM
Apr 2015

Large group of my family traveling for a wedding and I was running trail for the group with my cousin running point. As we had several grade school aged children in between I was paying attention to everything as we got split between two security lines. I was given grief for following the instructions given in the other line when the person running the line I was in decided to saunter by and enforce instructions that had not been ever given.

Given the lack of consistency that I have seen, seems hard to imagine that it isn't all being randomly made up on the spot.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
39. I Saw It
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 05:28 PM
Apr 2015

I saw some inconsistency among my co-workers at Dulles, but we were reasonably good at sticking to what were called the "standard operating procedures," which were supposed to be uniform from one airport to the next. The training is not very good, and the employees sometimes get confused, particularly when the rules are vague, or there are changes to the rules. And there is some randomness by the people who create the rules, so they sometimes go way, way overboard. An example was the 3rd degree screening from hell we used to give diabetics with insulin pumps. A bunch of us got together and bombarded headquarters with protests, and they did change the rules. TSA is poorly managed, and it all flows downhill, so the people out working on the floor are as frustrated as the passengers.

mnhtnbb

(31,381 posts)
18. Nothing would surprise me.
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 01:39 PM
Apr 2015

My husband-- now 72-- with an artificial
hip never gets through the screening process without having to go
through a pat-down. I watched him get what looked to me like a very serious
pat-down at LaGuardia some years ago and he then confirmed it when he joined
me after getting his luggage and pocket contents back!

Stryst

(714 posts)
26. I worked at the Dallas/Ft. Worth airport
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 02:52 PM
Apr 2015

doing vendor support (I helped companies set up their shops or kiosks, and did some troubleshooting for them) and I had to go through air port security a couple of times a day for a year and a half. During that time I never managed to figure out if there was actually anyone in charge of the TSA folks at the security entrances, and their entire goal seemed to be to harass people trying to get through the line. They were just sort of this disorganized group of four or five people who would stand around chatting with each other all day, only to stop now and then and either snap at someone in line for not taking off their shoes or point something out on the x-ray screen. No one seemed to know which entrances would be open, or should be open.

I never saw any grouping our outright theft, but I did see a TSA officer flipping through someone's smart phone, and a number of them tried to hawk their business to people (offers to rent rooms, family taxi services, and one guy who kept trying to convince people that for a couple of hundred bucks and an evening at his house that he could teach them how to beat the casino). And I did see one woman from the TSA get in a kid's face at McDonalds because he hadn't given her the airport employee discount, but that's a stone plenty of us couldn't throw.

My impression was that these guys were providing about as much security as a walmart greeter, but I guess we won't really know until we have a real security issue at an airport and see how TSA handles it. Having served in the military and with family spending some serious time in jail, I've been through plenty of security screenings, and the airport is hands down the least professional.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
32. TSA is one of the reasons I stopped flying...
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 03:24 PM
Apr 2015

I used to enjoy flying. Not so much anymore.

Every 4 or 5 years or so I like to take a trip to California. Well, the last couple of times I drove. I rented a car with unlimited mileage for a few hundred dollars and I drove straight through from Kansas City to Los Angeles. I believe I saved money: I took an ice chest with a couple of sandwiches and several cans of seltzer and napped in rest stops, so I had no motel or restaurant costs.

The trips took me 24 hours. I figured it takes about 8 to fly from KC to LA by the time I drive to the airport, park in long-term parking, take a bus to the terminal where I have to check in an hour before my flight, then board for the first leg usually to Dallas/Ft. Worth or Minneapolis/St Paul or Denver or Phoenix, then a layover to board for the second leg to LAX where I would deplane and grab my baggage then go to the rental car place.

Besides, I like the scenery between here and there, especially when I hit the Rockies and high desert!

And no hassle from TSA.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
40. Exactly
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 08:58 PM
Apr 2015

If this were a story about the same sort of thing happening to female passengers, it would draw a different reaction from most above who are pooh-poohing it.

locks

(2,012 posts)
35. Bad enough I have to go through
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 05:32 PM
Apr 2015

the stupid security at DIA now I have to go through a metal detector to go to a Rockies game. Opening day thousands of the 50,000 high-paying fans missed the start of the game.

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