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Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 10:21 PM Apr 2015

Gov. Chris Christie calls for cuts in Social Security, Medicare

Source: wpxi.com

MANCHESTER, NH —

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie has not thrown his hat in the ring for the GOP presidential nomination yet, but he’s on the forefront of calling for cuts in social spending.

Christie called for cuts in Social Security benefits and Medicare premiums for upper-income retirees in a speech he gave in New Hampshire Tuesday.

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“In addition to cuts in Social Security and Medicare, Christie also called for giving states more control over Medicaid, the joint federal-state health program for the poor, and for requiring the poor to pay some amount out-of-pocket for their care,” according to the Los Angeles Times.

Christie also called for raising the retirement age to 69 over a period of years.

Read more: http://www.wpxi.com/news/news/national-govt-politics/gov-chris-christie-calls-cuts-social-security-medi/nktzz/

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Gov. Chris Christie calls for cuts in Social Security, Medicare (Original Post) Cryptoad Apr 2015 OP
Is he politically suicidal? JDPriestly Apr 2015 #1
Like all rethugs, he thinks anyone benefiting from a social program is a mooch and a taker. kairos12 Apr 2015 #8
I'm callin for cuts to Christie's loud mouth outbursts. PLEASE let this jerk get the Rethug nomination! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2015 #15
Is he not getting enough to eat? Cleita Apr 2015 #2
“In addition to cuts in Social Security and Medicare ... left-of-center2012 Apr 2015 #3
uh..yeah hibbing Apr 2015 #11
so he was billed as a moderate drray23 Apr 2015 #4
Yep, it's political suicide JimDandy Apr 2015 #10
Hey Christie Creep...did you see the "Food for thought for this tax day"? SoapBox Apr 2015 #5
Of course, he does. You know why? Cuz he a major league ASSHOLE. nt valerief Apr 2015 #6
Newsflash jackass. The average Fox News viewer is over 70. onehandle Apr 2015 #7
His plan for SS would not affect the 80 year old lady getting 1500 per month. Hoppy Apr 2015 #9
Why would it make any difference if she's making 80,000 a year? Cleita Apr 2015 #14
Ask Chris. Its his proposal. Hoppy Apr 2015 #17
But it is regressive. Means testing is the first step in eliminating Cleita Apr 2015 #29
cue Obama to step and strongly defend SS and medicare. oh like that's a happening nt msongs Apr 2015 #12
No but it might be a good cue for Hillary and any other Presidential candidate. Cleita Apr 2015 #13
A DEMOCRAT in Congress recently proposed a bill that would Fast Track most of djean111 Apr 2015 #16
Nope. Primary John Delaney or anyone who wants to screw around with SS or Medicare still_one Apr 2015 #18
RAISE THE FUCKING CAP, YOU MATHEMATICAL MORONS!!! Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2015 #21
They are not mathematical morons. They are on a mission for the Kochs. djean111 Apr 2015 #24
Of course I know that - OK then just morons - you certainly can't argue against that! Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2015 #25
You know, it makes it worse that they know damned right well that they are hurting djean111 Apr 2015 #26
Sociopaths don't even consider that. They have a sickness contaminates all of us. Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2015 #30
"just useless eaters" MosheFeingold Apr 2015 #27
I understand that, really, but nah. Woodward and Bernstein, I believe, attribute djean111 Apr 2015 #28
my father worked all his life in a factory. when he retired he was all used up dembotoz Apr 2015 #19
69 year olds are only employable by McDonalds. Thank you, Mr. Unelectable! Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2015 #20
Then it is Our fredamae Apr 2015 #22
he's a moron and a tool samsingh Apr 2015 #23
Confirmed, Christie is solidly pro-pain tridim Apr 2015 #31
Pig-Man Jean Genie Apr 2015 #32

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
1. Is he politically suicidal?
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 10:28 PM
Apr 2015

The average Social Security benefit for a retired worker is $1,328 according to this webpage.

http://www.ssa.gov/news/press/factsheets/colafacts2015.html

How in the world can Christie cut that? It's a bare minimum already. And yet that is the average so if he cuts that, he will cut the many recipients who are getting even less down to what? Below subsistence.

He must want to put a lot of elderly ladies in their 80s out on the streets.

What a cruel, heartless creep. Christie. Cruel, heartless creep.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
15. I'm callin for cuts to Christie's loud mouth outbursts. PLEASE let this jerk get the Rethug nomination!
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 01:48 AM
Apr 2015

Could they be that stupid? (question kinda answers itself.)

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
2. Is he not getting enough to eat?
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 10:29 PM
Apr 2015

As a old person who depends on Social Security and Medicare, is my useless mouth eating up food he deserves?

I can't believe the cruelty of politicians like him.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
3. “In addition to cuts in Social Security and Medicare ...
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 10:31 PM
Apr 2015

Christie also called for ... requiring the poor to pay some amount out-of-pocket for their care,”

hibbing

(10,095 posts)
11. uh..yeah
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 11:47 PM
Apr 2015

Just like they always think these health savings plans are some panacea, like poor people have money just laying around and have money to put into them.



Peace

drray23

(7,627 posts)
4. so he was billed as a moderate
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 10:32 PM
Apr 2015

Initially, Christie was billing himself as a moderate repub able to reach across the aisle to get stuff done. Of course after bridge gate he showed his true colors.

Now, he is steering hard right even more. I suppose he is trying to blend in with the nutjobs to try to get the nomination.

He is basically sabotaging his own campaign. The only asset he had over the rest of the GOP field is that he was viewed as moderate. If he is just another wacko why would he get the nomination ? what would differentiate him ?

Good thing for us that repubs cant get their act together.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
10. Yep, it's political suicide
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 11:35 PM
Apr 2015

for him to discard his niche in the media. Wonder if anyone actually believed the "I'm a moderate" schtick anyway?

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
5. Hey Christie Creep...did you see the "Food for thought for this tax day"?
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 10:43 PM
Apr 2015

It's talk'n about creeps like you.

 

Hoppy

(3,595 posts)
9. His plan for SS would not affect the 80 year old lady getting 1500 per month.
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 11:07 PM
Apr 2015

That is, unless she is making more than 80,000 per year in addition to SS.

I can't stand the piece of shit but if we want to win, get the full and correct information.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
14. Why would it make any difference if she's making 80,000 a year?
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 12:57 AM
Apr 2015

If she paid into it, it's owed to her. That's how the program works!

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
29. But it is regressive. Means testing is the first step in eliminating
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 11:49 AM
Apr 2015

or privatizing a program altogether. That's the intent. I believe they want to privatize. There is that 2.6 trillion lying there in the fund and the banksters are itching to get their hands on it. There is no more surplus in the Treasury to raid so they their eyes are focused on SS. Christie is just one of their tools.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
13. No but it might be a good cue for Hillary and any other Presidential candidate.
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 12:55 AM
Apr 2015

Not Bernie, of course, because he has always stood up for those programs and more.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
16. A DEMOCRAT in Congress recently proposed a bill that would Fast Track most of
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 02:05 AM
Apr 2015

the same changes that Christie wants.


http://www.ncpssm.org/LatestNews/Documents/ArticleID/1392/Congress-Targets-Social-Security-with-Fast-Track-Commission-Plan

Congress Targets Social Security with Fast-Track Commission Plan

March 26, 2015

News Release

Legislation introduced in the House by Rep. John Delaney (D-MD) would create a Social Security Commission designed to fast-track reforms and insulate Members of Congress from the public backlash over harmful benefit cuts that co-sponsor Rep. Tom Cole (R-OK) says the commission will consider, including: raising the retirement age, means testing and the Chained CPI.



Yeah, which one of these is not like the other. I suppose, if a DEM wants to do it, those are ponies, right? And Obama shorted out that Third Rail with the Cat Food Commission and putting Chained CPI on the table. I am confident that, if Hillary proposed Chained CPI, we would all be told that hey, it must be necessary (instead of raising the cap on her donors) and anyway, the safety nets are just a herd of ponies and that cuts would affect men and women and children equally, so there.

Christie is courting people who think his ideas are swell. That is all that is important to him.
 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
24. They are not mathematical morons. They are on a mission for the Kochs.
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 11:34 AM
Apr 2015

They are thinking of campaign contributions.

This is why there needs to be some sort of term limit for Congress - once 90% of them get there, it looks like they immediately start working on getting reelected, raising money, and forging relationships with lobbyists so they can get a swell job afterwards, and working for the corporations while they are in office. And we just say oh, it has to be that way, don'cha know..

The corporate types do not want to pay the matching funds. They don't. Kinda funny, in a horrific way - the corporations do not want to pay matching funds, Wall Street want the funds so they can gamble with them and bleed them for fees. The people who need Social Security to live are, in a phrase that has been attributed to Kissinger, just useless eaters, as far as the 1% and their lackeys are concerned..

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
26. You know, it makes it worse that they know damned right well that they are hurting
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 11:40 AM
Apr 2015

and cheating people.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
28. I understand that, really, but nah. Woodward and Bernstein, I believe, attribute
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 11:49 AM
Apr 2015

the useless eaters remark to Kissinger, and whenever I read about all the people killed in the Middle East, and of all the people dying of disease and starvation in Africa, I am reminded of Kissinger's lament that there are just too many people, and birth control won't work quickly enough to lower the numbers.

dembotoz

(16,796 posts)
19. my father worked all his life in a factory. when he retired he was all used up
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 07:38 AM
Apr 2015

He never would have made it to 69
Dumbass white collar bullshit from christie

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
22. Then it is Our
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 10:50 AM
Apr 2015

job to make him more irrelevant than he's making: Boomers, Poor, Minorities, Women, Veterans, Children etc.

Let's do this.

tridim

(45,358 posts)
31. Confirmed, Christie is solidly pro-pain
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 12:02 PM
Apr 2015

Christie will never stop destroying everything that is good.

Jean Genie

(273 posts)
32. Pig-Man
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 01:39 PM
Apr 2015

Fat Pig-Man from New Jersey has a lot of nerve calling for Social Security and Medicare cuts. I suspect he easily spends more in one night out with the wife than most Social Security recipients receive in a month. Talk about entitlement!

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