State bill to force parents to vaccinate schoolchildren stalls

[alp227]

Source: San Francisco Chronicle

SACRAMENTO — A bill to prevent parents from opting their children out of school-required vaccinations could be headed for a major rewrite after lawmakers heard impassioned testimony from hundreds of parents who threatened to take their kids out of school.

The controversial bill stalled in the Senate Education Committee on Wednesday after committee Chairwoman Carol Liu, D-La Cañada Flintridge (Los Angeles County), cautioned bill author Sen. Richard Pan, D-Sacramento, that a vote Wednesday would likely kill the bill.

A one-week delay will give Pan, a pediatrician, time to amend SB277 so that he can get support from committee lawmakers, some of whom echoed the concerns raised by parents. Adding a religious exemption, which 46 other states currently allow, was urged by committee member Sen. Connie M. Leyva, D-Chino (San Bernardino County), but it was unclear whether Pan would incorporate the suggestion.

“Not having a religious exemption is problematic,” Leyva said.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Bill-to-force-parents-to-vaccinate-school-6202345.php

[uppityperson]

1. except for the rare health issues, no vx, not allowed in schools.

You want to partake of public education, mandatory vaccination to keep the public safe.

[SoapBox]

2. Dumbasses turning their spawn into dumbasses.

This lack of vaccinations, will eventually cause a huge epidemic of (pick a disease).

And then the Dumbass Parents will demand to know why they weren't required to vaccinate their children.

[proverbialwisdom]

11. FYI: Factual updated links just posted by Johns Hopkins graduate and autism parent, Ginger Taylor.

Johns Hopkins database of vaccine package inserts: http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/package_inserts.htm
Vaccine Injury Compensation Table: http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/vaccinetable.html

At the present time each individual state mandates its own subset of the following (although SB277 includes a "blank check" for future unspecified additions to current law):
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Research into vaccine uptake (educated affluent are most likely to be selective):

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1781415/
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/early/2015/01/13/peds.2014-2715.full.pdf
http://www.abqjournal.com/557820/news/los-alamos-top-in-nm-for-vaccine-exemptions.html

CDC adult vaccine schedule: http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/downloads/adult/adult-combined-schedule.pdf
National Adult Immunization Plan Draft: http://www.hhs.gov/nvpo/national_adult_immunization_plan_draft.pdf

BTW, Taylor recently participated in an informative 4-person panel discussion (with 3 physicians) hosted by WGME/CBS 13 News posted in the Maine forum.

[DesertDiamond]

3. I see a lot of home schooling in California's future. Or perhaps in America's future.

[warrant46]

7. Hope that home scooling

Teaches the art of burger flipping

[proverbialwisdom]

4. Do not miss this excellent series.

The Truth About California’s Vaccination Rates

April 10, 2015

[rpannier]

5. So California will olag behind Mississippi and West Virginia

If they pull their kids out fine, let em
They won't be contaminating a classroom for of kids

[warrant46]

6. Ignorant Sheep

When the worst happens---And it will----I will say---

I TOLD YOU SO

Now bury your dead

[Martak Sarno]

8. Who benefits from anti vaccination? "Who started the fire?"

With all the "all of a sudden" animosity, religious fervor and cries of "I know what's best for MY children" anti-vaccination rhetoric, you gotta wonder if there isn't some "outside force" behind this, seeking to increase profits. I mean, have you seen so many ignorant, room temp IQ'd adults mystically come together with the same idea at the relatively same time? Scratch that. Forgot about 2000, 2004, 2012 and 2014.

SO...who stands to gain if thousands or hundreds of thousands of children and many adults contract diseases that should and could have been minimalized or eradicated? And who gets to spend hundreds or thousands of dollars getting cured (IF they can be cured)? Just the ignorant anti vaccine fools? Want to bet your health or life on it or your family's. Hmmmm?

What's next...anti small pox vaccines?

Oh yeah! Too late. Small pox isn't a threat anymore so no need for vaccines.

Too bad there's no vaccine for stupidity! Of course, too many would be too stupid to get one!

[bluestateguy]

9. Oh no. Stop don't come back.

Whackadoodle parents are going to pull their kids out of public schools.

Stop.

Don't.

[BlueJazz]

10. I've heard all the sciantific evedence regarding why people should be vacsinated and I must say:

I simply do not believe it. My eyes are very, very good and if germs (no....viruses, you idiot), were around my little Jimmie, I would know it and pull out that Lysol stuff that kills all those germs.

This is a made up scenario but probably accurate.

[sybylla]

12. Sen. Leyva needs to get a clue

Having willfully unvaccinated children in a public school is a problem. If your religion has a problem with vaccinations, send your child to a religious school.

[proverbialwisdom]

13. Breaking: CALIFORNIA SENATE EDUCATION COMMITTEE CHANGES TWO MEMBERS

California Education Committee changes were made this morning, see http://sedn.senate.ca.gov/ for the new list.

Huff is replaced (he would have voted against SB277) by Sharon Runner (R, she voted against SB2109 2 years ago but unknown views on SB277). Senator Monning (D) was added as the 9th member, he voted for SB277 last week.

SOURCE: Comment on April 16, 2015 at 12:59 PM @ AOA

http://www.mercurynews.com/health/ci_27919779/vaccine-exemption-bill-temporarily-stalls-california-senate-education

...Pan and other health experts believe the rising number of parents taking advantage of California's personal belief exemption that allows them to forgo their children's vaccines was a factor in the outbreak. In 2000, fewer than 0.77 percent of California kindergartners had vaccination exemptions. By 2014, the rate had more than tripled to 2.5 percent, or 1 in every 40 children.

Got it? NOTE: Opting out of even a single dose of a single vaccine is defined as having a "vaccination exemption."

[Igel]

14. Most states have had religious exemptions for decades.

Sometimes many decades. With few problems.

Those believers, wrongly or rightly, simply won't have their kids vaccinated. Esp. now that the number of vaccinations has really increased.

That'll lead to an impasse. State requirements are for public education in many cases. If kids must be vaccinated to attend state schools, the state's setting up the parents for a problem: Essentially the state is just requiring that underage citizens be vaccinated. In court they'll have to show a compelling state interest in having that level of vaccination, and that's likely to fail. Since they won't be able to compel homeschooling, they'll have to set up a separate but equal school system for the unvaccinated or allow religious exemptions.

But it'll be an ugly and hate-filled process.