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Omaha Steve

(99,609 posts)
Sat Apr 18, 2015, 10:10 PM Apr 2015

Investigation Launched Into Vet Who Bragged She Killed Cat With Bow and Arrow

Source: NBC News

Police in Texas opened an investigation after a photo posted on Facebook by a veterinarian showed her holding up an allegedly dead cat pierced through the head with an arrow sparked international outrage.

Austin County Sheriff Jack W. Brandes told NBC News Saturday that after he was notified that Kristen Lindsey allegedly posted the graphic photo, he put three investigators on the case.

The caption on the photo read: "my first bow kill lol. The only good feral tomcat is one with an arrow through its head! Vet of the year award ... greatly appreciated."

The picture, which was posted Wednesday, according to NBC affiliate KPRC, has since been taken down, but not before it was screen-grabbed and spread all over the internet.

FULL story at link. Graphic photo here: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1073639625985071&set=a.431359956879711.119208.100000171303750&type=1


Read more: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/investigation-launched-vet-who-bragged-she-killed-cat-bow-arrow-n344196



From one that has posted numerous stories of animals that have suffered and or those that were rescued.

Several DUers have posted about this in GD etc. from the beginning. For sounding the alarm that caused this investigation, I deeply thank you.

OS.

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Investigation Launched Into Vet Who Bragged She Killed Cat With Bow and Arrow (Original Post) Omaha Steve Apr 2015 OP
Who would take their pets to her? montanacowboy Apr 2015 #1
Yes. I would also 840high Apr 2015 #2
Amen shenmue Apr 2015 #3
How did someone that dumb get through college, much less veterinary school? lolly Apr 2015 #20
Intelligence/expertise can be extremely specialized. nomorenomore08 Apr 2015 #21
Yeah, I guess Ben Carson is Exhibit A for that phenomenon lolly Apr 2015 #27
Ted Cruz Exhibit B MosheFeingold Apr 2015 #130
Perhaps for the reason that they WOULD be expected to put some animals down as a vet.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #28
how she chose that profession? ....the answer to that is simple... BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2015 #99
Sadly, I think that's very true. n/t nomorenomore08 Apr 2015 #138
Like pedophiles who choose to work around small children, maybe? She might enjoy seeing tblue37 Apr 2015 #116
You can be smart awoke_in_2003 Apr 2015 #37
sociopaths can be drawn to the healing professions... magical thyme Apr 2015 #41
Surgeons, especially, have a hard-wired ego, sociopathic, element to their personalties. Laffy Kat Apr 2015 #52
in order to do what they do they need to be bright and able to dissociate uppityperson Apr 2015 #66
Totally agree. Two sides of the coin and all that. Laffy Kat Apr 2015 #115
In the largest dogfighting bust at-the-time there were vets who fought dogs JonLP24 Apr 2015 #46
Feral cats can be nuisance animals Warpy Apr 2015 #4
As it turned out, though, the cat wasn't feral. It was somebody's pet. Ken Burch Apr 2015 #6
Whoa. That will get her a nasty lawsuit, at the very least Warpy Apr 2015 #8
Lose trade, probably. Lawsuit, probably not. Stonepounder Apr 2015 #10
That is correct in many jurisdictions jberryhill Apr 2015 #13
She was fired rpannier Apr 2015 #16
I'm sure she feels like the world's biggest victim of bleeding heart liberals Warpy Apr 2015 #36
She'll claim she is sorry to all offended and rpannier Apr 2015 #53
Or she'll be sorry we all took it wrong Warpy Apr 2015 #55
I can't imagine any clinic now that would hire her, either. spooky3 Apr 2015 #96
If she doesn't lose her license rpannier Apr 2015 #107
maybe, but who would hire her in any state, given what we now know about her? spooky3 Apr 2015 #112
There's always taxidermy! nt PassingFair Apr 2015 #124
The animal rescues in my area have all put her name on our lists of "won't do business with". hamsterjill Apr 2015 #135
she should lose her veterinary license. nt magical thyme Apr 2015 #42
The cat was a farm cat - can't keep them fastened up and let them do their job csziggy Apr 2015 #90
More than that Scootaloo Apr 2015 #126
Hard lawsuit MosheFeingold Apr 2015 #131
Sigh, Texas.... Warpy Apr 2015 #134
She looked pretty young. Wonder how much she racked up in Student Loans LynneSin Apr 2015 #19
Even worse, in that case. I would be both despondent and furious if it were my cat. nomorenomore08 Apr 2015 #22
The cat was obviously not feral Midnight Writer Apr 2015 #31
Here is the beautiful Tiger and a petition to suspend the Killa's license. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #47
Everything is pointing to the cat being the family avebury Apr 2015 #7
The cat wasn't even feral. femmedem Apr 2015 #9
I adopted a feral cat and domesticated him whathehell Apr 2015 #56
So did I. Tico was about 18 months old when I took him in last July, and he is a tblue37 Apr 2015 #117
I'm glad to hear that. Many say they can't be domesticated -- It's not true! whathehell Apr 2015 #122
He hung around my apartment for a few months, even "visiting" with my three indoor cats through the tblue37 Apr 2015 #123
Sweet.. whathehell Apr 2015 #137
Yep, my family did too... Adrahil Apr 2015 #129
Ahh..Your family was very kind to take in an old cat like that whathehell Apr 2015 #136
I hope she gets arrested. bravenak Apr 2015 #5
I'm sure the OC crowd would be yelling at the jail with their yellow flags... n/t freshwest Apr 2015 #11
At least that might keep them occupied. :) bravenak Apr 2015 #23
Good idea. They're terminally bored brats. Leave the rest of us alone! n/t freshwest Apr 2015 #29
Me too. nomorenomore08 Apr 2015 #24
I don't know how much time is possibly for animal cruelty tammywammy Apr 2015 #68
K & R Thespian2 Apr 2015 #12
Run a psych eval on her. AngryDem001 Apr 2015 #14
Did you happen to see this from her blog... Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #49
This woman sounds insane workinclasszero Apr 2015 #50
You used the perfect smilie for sure. nt brer cat Apr 2015 #51
Wow! Well, it's likely that even if she doesn't lose her license she won't be hired again. cui bono Apr 2015 #84
Killing things....... AngryDem001 Apr 2015 #103
What a maniac. BeanMusical Apr 2015 #15
I thought the same thing. 840high Apr 2015 #17
Yep, cruelty to animals is a sign of Ilsa Apr 2015 #18
Cruelty + Arrogance + Stupidity is not a good combination Tom Ripley Apr 2015 #25
OMG! This is horrible! Enthusiast Apr 2015 #26
Feral veterinarian brags about killing pets for fun. This is a very disturbed individual. whereisjustice Apr 2015 #30
A feral cat is just homeless. Peregrine Took Apr 2015 #32
so how many of you eat hacked up cows? nt msongs Apr 2015 #33
Do you post pictures of cows getting shot with bows and arrows on Facebook? Initech Apr 2015 #35
Not even REMOTELY the same thing. AngryDem001 Apr 2015 #39
Says you. Or maybe you just haven't read the facts about how factory farms are run. JudyM Apr 2015 #110
Cows are yummy...nt Jesus Malverde Apr 2015 #44
What an incredibly insensitive post. cui bono Apr 2015 #86
Oh, please. AngryDem001 Apr 2015 #111
So? n/t cui bono Apr 2015 #113
I mean I can eat meat and not feel guilty about it. AngryDem001 Apr 2015 #118
Okay, but what I was referring to is the poster was throwing it in the face of someone who is cui bono Apr 2015 #119
I try my best to avoid factory-farmed meats. AngryDem001 Apr 2015 #120
Heh... glad to hear it. cui bono Apr 2015 #121
Humans are not carnivores chernabog Apr 2015 #132
Your support of the vet's depravity has been duly noted? tenderfoot Apr 2015 #57
Pointing out another way of inhumanely treating animals does not mean one supports the vet. cui bono Apr 2015 #85
The poster was dismissing the actions of the vet. tenderfoot Apr 2015 #97
In my opinion, no, they were not. n/t cui bono Apr 2015 #100
I disagree tenderfoot Apr 2015 #101
I don't. Stopped eating meat some years ago. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #59
Post removed Post removed Apr 2015 #62
I can't believe you just posted that robbob Apr 2015 #79
It was an attempt to get the self righteous to judge me IronLionZion Apr 2015 #83
Well you got what you wanted, sort of... cui bono Apr 2015 #88
jury Takket Apr 2015 #89
Great point. Both are ethically questionable. Helen Borg Apr 2015 #69
I don't. nt City Lights Apr 2015 #93
Not me - since 1987. nt LiberalElite Apr 2015 #125
Many people eat meat and yet don't enjoy killing. A tough distinction to understand LanternWaste Apr 2015 #128
The cognitive dissonance chernabog Apr 2015 #133
Feral Cat Declares Wolf Frankula Apr 2015 #34
My wife and I have been into cat rescues for over 30 yrs. bearssoapbox Apr 2015 #38
not all vets are wonderful people. leftyladyfrommo Apr 2015 #40
She boasts that this is her FIRST bow kill. She's a filthy, hidious P.O.S. Judi Lynn Apr 2015 #43
I'm sorry for the poor kitty workinclasszero Apr 2015 #54
I saw a Maricopa County Jail guard shooting at cats with their non-lethal guns JonLP24 Apr 2015 #45
Did you happen to see this damning entry from her blog, Steve? Just incredible. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #48
Twisted family values- her mother took the picture suffragette Apr 2015 #65
They must be SO proud! Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #67
It will be fitting justice if the mother has to own up to witnessing this and provides suffragette Apr 2015 #82
Good. I'm glad the mother claimed the photo, enlightenment Apr 2015 #70
Yes, now I hope the police don't back down with the pressure from the wealthy down there. freshwest Apr 2015 #72
I understand what you're saying. enlightenment Apr 2015 #75
IIRC, she was an intern in TX and a vet student in CO. Let's see if she gets licensed there. n/ freshwest Apr 2015 #91
Yep. City Lights Apr 2015 #95
Agree, and hope they throw the book at her suffragette Apr 2015 #114
Post removed Post removed Apr 2015 #74
Thanks for posting that here and earlier. These people are frightening, they'd extend this to people freshwest Apr 2015 #73
Absolutely incredible. The callous, cruel stupidity just Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #78
She's a first-class loser. City Lights Apr 2015 #94
gawd luvvin, clean livin', all-amurkin girl there. BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2015 #140
My favorite is the tweet where she says the vet won't dare fire me. I'm too awsome. Hoppy Apr 2015 #58
However, in her blog, she says she does love God. Hoppy Apr 2015 #60
She may love God, but I'm not sure the feeling is mutual. Ken Burch Apr 2015 #142
Here she is with another Conservative soul mate (WARNING!!! Graphic Picture!!!) tenderfoot Apr 2015 #61
This message was self-deleted by its author workinclasszero Apr 2015 #63
Typical republican voters workinclasszero Apr 2015 #64
Hugh! Despicable. BeanMusical Apr 2015 #77
I bet her parents are outraged TNNurse Apr 2015 #71
Her mom took the photo tenderfoot Apr 2015 #98
What a piece of work this vet is matt819 Apr 2015 #76
She claims the cat was feral. LisaL Apr 2015 #80
Okay, this is bad and stupid...... DeSwiss Apr 2015 #81
Yes, thank you skepticscott Apr 2015 #105
I think it is the way she took a picture of herself with her "trophy" treestar Apr 2015 #127
Thank you OS! marym625 Apr 2015 #87
I won't be satisfied until she loses her license and is in jail. City Lights Apr 2015 #92
I live near rural areas Boomer Apr 2015 #102
Trap, neuter, release. enlightenment Apr 2015 #104
Just can't follow this story. The headlines make me feel sick. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #106
More, not less light needs to be shone on animal abuse... It is beyond painful to me, but it is the hlthe2b Apr 2015 #109
I lived in Brenham during 2012 and 2013. TexasTowelie Apr 2015 #108
No conscience, no empathy, no soul. May she rot in Hell. Jack-o-Lantern Apr 2015 #139
The Cats of Ulthar chemenger Apr 2015 #141

lolly

(3,248 posts)
20. How did someone that dumb get through college, much less veterinary school?
Sat Apr 18, 2015, 11:41 PM
Apr 2015

Her posting looked like something a spoiled, immature 17 year old would post.

Vet school isn't a cakewalk; the undergrad is pretty much the same as pre-med. I have a hard time figuring out how this bratty person made it through organic chemistry and biology.

Not to mention, of course, wondering how someone who enjoys killing animals ever chose that profession in the first place.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
21. Intelligence/expertise can be extremely specialized.
Sat Apr 18, 2015, 11:47 PM
Apr 2015

Some people are competent, even brilliant, in one area and complete idiots in most others.

"Not to mention, of course, wondering how someone who enjoys killing animals ever chose that profession in the first place."

This one, I don't have an answer for. It mystifies me as well.

lolly

(3,248 posts)
27. Yeah, I guess Ben Carson is Exhibit A for that phenomenon
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 12:06 AM
Apr 2015

Still--even if her intelligence is strictly limited to one area, getting through all that schooling would seem to require diligence, dedication, and some degree of seriousness and decorum that is utterly lacking here.

I dunno--maybe her decision to become a veterinarian came from a very privileged childhood riding her own horses or something. Maybe she sees cats--especially cats she assumes are feral--like some people see the homeless. Not worthy of life.

Added on edit: An article from her school's newspaper noted that her first job after finishing was at an "equine sports medicine center." Not definitive, obviously, but certainly fits in with the rich-girl-who-had-show-horses growing up theme. Also leads me to wonder whether a family fortune had anything to do with her getting into veterinary school.

http://www.coloradoan.com/story/news/2015/04/18/veterinarian-accused-shooting-cat-arrow-colorado-state-graduate/26010115/

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
130. Ted Cruz Exhibit B
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 10:31 AM
Apr 2015

I watched one of his many Supreme Court arguments. He's clearly a brilliant lawyer.

But wingnut asshole, extraordinaire.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
28. Perhaps for the reason that they WOULD be expected to put some animals down as a vet....
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 12:11 AM
Apr 2015

its twisted but...can you really put that past THIS chick?

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
99. how she chose that profession? ....the answer to that is simple...
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 04:19 PM
Apr 2015

Well not really, not to non-sociopaths, but the principle is the same as the one driving pedophiles into child-centered jobs: Easy Prey.

tblue37

(65,336 posts)
116. Like pedophiles who choose to work around small children, maybe? She might enjoy seeing
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 11:44 PM
Apr 2015

animals suffer and die--and contributing to their suffering and death when she can.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
41. sociopaths can be drawn to the healing professions...
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 07:07 AM
Apr 2015

it puts them in a position of power, able to torture and kill animals (or humans).

Laffy Kat

(16,377 posts)
52. Surgeons, especially, have a hard-wired ego, sociopathic, element to their personalties.
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 09:09 AM
Apr 2015

Not all surgeons, of course, but many. I've known and worked around a few.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
66. in order to do what they do they need to be bright and able to dissociate
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 11:49 AM
Apr 2015

That old joke of people lined up in ring of the pearly gates when a man dressed in scrubs walls past the line and straight through. That's god, he thinks he's a surgeon.

It works in favor of the job but can negatively impact relating to other people otherwise.

Laffy Kat

(16,377 posts)
115. Totally agree. Two sides of the coin and all that.
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 11:20 PM
Apr 2015

I've heard the above joke several times from doctors! It always seemed to me that regular practitioners don't much like surgeons either.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
46. In the largest dogfighting bust at-the-time there were vets who fought dogs
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 07:40 AM
Apr 2015

Giving them IVs during timeouts of what it was. High school teachers, basically any kind of profession which you wouldn't associate with that kind of thing were. Sociopaths--portray themselves as dog & animal lovers & participate in a barbaric function.

This is the article. 8 pages, well worth the read

Dog Beat Dog: To Pull Off the Biggest Pit Bull Fighting Bust in U.S. History, Investigators and Their Dogs Went Undercover

<snip>

Heath and Mills were surprised to discover that the dogfighters they were mingling with came from all walks of life. Suspects ranged from a registered nurse to a convicted killer out on parole. There was a crack dealer in East St. Louis, a high school football coach in Texas, a schoolteacher in Iowa, a firefighter in Oklahoma. The agents even encountered a veterinary technician who hooked up his dogs to IVs to rehydrate them after fights.

"They're sociopaths," says Tim Rickey, the former Humane Society of Missouri agent who took part in the probe. "That type of person that can live a fairly normal existence, portray themselves a lover of the breed and go to church — and then stand around and cheer at one of the most barbaric acts you'll ever see. They spend months with a dog and smile before a fight and talk about how good they are. And then they execute them in a second when they don't fight well."

http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2010-09-02/news/dog-beat-dog-to-pull-off-the-biggest-pit-bull-fighting-bust-in-u-s-history-investigators-and-their-dogs-went-undercover/4/

Warpy

(111,253 posts)
4. Feral cats can be nuisance animals
Sat Apr 18, 2015, 10:20 PM
Apr 2015

especially if you've got a kid with a sand box. I get that.

However, the sane way to deal with them if you won't trap, neuter and release them is to trap them and turn them over to animal control to be euthanized, not use them for target practice with a bow.

Maybe she'll get some loathsome disease transmitted by rodents now that the cat isn't around to decrease the mouse and rat populations. Asshole deserves it.

I'd like her to do jail time, but I don't always get what I want.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
6. As it turned out, though, the cat wasn't feral. It was somebody's pet.
Sat Apr 18, 2015, 10:26 PM
Apr 2015

She just assumed it was feral for some reason.

Warpy

(111,253 posts)
8. Whoa. That will get her a nasty lawsuit, at the very least
Sat Apr 18, 2015, 10:29 PM
Apr 2015

She's going to lose a lot of trade at that animal hospital even if she doesn't get jail time.

And I'm still rooting for the mice and rats to administer a good case of Karma.

It also demonstrates another good reason to keep the kitty indoors. Freaks who hate cats are all over the place and they all feel entitled to torture and kill them.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
10. Lose trade, probably. Lawsuit, probably not.
Sat Apr 18, 2015, 10:35 PM
Apr 2015

In most places pets are considered 'personal property' so you can only sue to recover the actual cost of the 'property'. You can't sue for 'pain and suffering' at the loss of a beloved pet any more than you can for the loss of a dresser or refrigerator. Stupidity cubed, but that's how it is.

(IANAL, so if I am wrong, don't sue me.)

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
13. That is correct in many jurisdictions
Sat Apr 18, 2015, 10:46 PM
Apr 2015

The legal damages for killing someone's pet are generally negligible.

Warpy

(111,253 posts)
36. I'm sure she feels like the world's biggest victim of bleeding heart liberals
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 01:57 AM
Apr 2015

and other scum of the earth cat lovers like PETA.

The clinic was smart, they can't have a lowlife like that on staff. She'll probably have to brush her butt out of town, too.

That picture was disgusting. Sorry I looked, I'm a total cat lover with a distinct fondness for yellow tabby tomcats.

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
53. She'll claim she is sorry to all offended and
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 09:21 AM
Apr 2015

has rededicated her life to Jesus

The standard way of apologizing nowadays

Warpy

(111,253 posts)
55. Or she'll be sorry we all took it wrong
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 09:23 AM
Apr 2015

I mean, jeez, dead cats are funny, man! Don't you got no sensayuma?

spooky3

(34,441 posts)
96. I can't imagine any clinic now that would hire her, either.
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 04:10 PM
Apr 2015

She may appeal to a small group of nut jobs, but all the sane clients would check the interwebs and go elsewhere.

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
107. If she doesn't lose her license
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 06:07 PM
Apr 2015

My guess is, she'll move to a new state.
Get a license in a new state
And move on

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
135. The animal rescues in my area have all put her name on our lists of "won't do business with".
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 03:56 PM
Apr 2015

First off, I do live in Texas and she'll be looking for a job. If she's smart, she'll move out of the state at least.

She has no business being involved in animal care anywhere. She's a sicko. She was horrible for doing it to the cat, stupid for posting it, and an egomaniac for making the comments that the vet clinic wouldn't fire her because she's so fabulous.

I'm part of a large network of animal rescuers and we've all shared this story and her name. While I can't speak for everyone, I can't think of any one of us who would do business with a vet clinic that hires her in the future. There are, simply, too may other clinics to choose from.

There is one vet clinic in town that has an associate vet who killed a dog with a claw hammer, was found guilty, but his conviction was reversed on appeal. I still won't spend a dime at that clinic and neither do most of the rescuers that I know.

This really is one way that social media is reshaping the world in a positive way.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
90. The cat was a farm cat - can't keep them fastened up and let them do their job
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 03:16 PM
Apr 2015

There is a video of him riding the farm Gator in the first post on this thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026525114

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
126. More than that
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 07:58 AM
Apr 2015

Cats and dogs have blanket legal protection as "companion animals" regardless of their ownership status, in every state and US territory.

The only legal way to "manage" feral cats or dogs is to either live trap them and deliver them to animal control, or to just call animal control in the first place.

She's going to face charges for animal cruelty, pretty much guaranteed.

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
131. Hard lawsuit
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 01:13 PM
Apr 2015

Animals are considered property in Texas and you can't get emotional distress damages or value for loss of property.

So, market value for one non-pedigreed cat? Less than $100.

(And no, I don't agree with this law. Just telling you what it is.)

Warpy

(111,253 posts)
134. Sigh, Texas....
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 02:51 PM
Apr 2015

I suppose we'll have to be happy she's out of a job, her license is being threatened, and she's probably catching hell from her neighbors who have beloved working cats, which I imagine is most of them.

She must've been completely shitfaced when she was stupid enough to do that and post the photo like she was proud of herself.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
19. She looked pretty young. Wonder how much she racked up in Student Loans
Sat Apr 18, 2015, 11:39 PM
Apr 2015

gonna be tough to pay back under grad and Veterinary School if you cannot practice as a Vet.

Midnight Writer

(21,751 posts)
31. The cat was obviously not feral
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 12:58 AM
Apr 2015

You can tell from the photo she posted.

The cat is clean, with healthy weight and shiny fur. A vet would surely know this.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
7. Everything is pointing to the cat being the family
Sat Apr 18, 2015, 10:28 PM
Apr 2015

pet of an elderly couple. The cat went missing at the time of the killing. The pictures of the family pet show a cat that is pretty identical to the dead cat.

The Vet lost her job but the Vet Practice as not fired a Receptionist that has supported the Vet online. The Vet Practice is getting a lot of flack not turned on the Receptionist, Misty. By the way, Misty also handles their internet sites. I think that I am not blocked from the Vet Practice website. I don't think that she liked me posting a screen shot of her comment on the Killer Vet's FB page on the Vet Practice web page.

femmedem

(8,201 posts)
9. The cat wasn't even feral.
Sat Apr 18, 2015, 10:30 PM
Apr 2015

It was an elderly couple's pet who had been missing for about two weeks.

So sad. And even if she believes feral cats should be eradicated, she should have made sure the cat was feral before killing it. I rescue strays, and trap/neuter/release feral cats in my neighborhood. It's not that hard to tell the difference.

tblue37

(65,336 posts)
117. So did I. Tico was about 18 months old when I took him in last July, and he is a
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 11:48 PM
Apr 2015

total sweetheart.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
122. I'm glad to hear that. Many say they can't be domesticated -- It's not true!
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 01:18 AM
Apr 2015

I got mine when he was only eight months, and still, it took awhile to get him

to completely trust me.

Yours was a grown cat -- How long did it take him to warm up to you?

tblue37

(65,336 posts)
123. He hung around my apartment for a few months, even "visiting" with my three indoor cats through the
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 01:29 AM
Apr 2015

window. He also shadowed me on my walks, but though he hung around me and meowed at me, he wouldn't let me get close enough to touch him until July 2 of last year. I petted him on my porch for a while, then grabbed him and took him inside. I was afraid that the Fourth of July furecrackers might cause him to run away, as they do to many cats and dogs.

He was very cuddly and playful from that evening on. I think he was lonely all along and wanted someone to pet him and give him attention. He was meant to belong to someone who would give him love and attention. He is best buddies now with my 4-year-old Siames cat Lucy, too.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
137. Sweet..
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 06:02 PM
Apr 2015

Yes, I agree, it sounds like he was lonely, and sensed a good person

with a happy "cat home" when he saw one, so he "stalked" you.

Thanks for sharing your story.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
129. Yep, my family did too...
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 10:26 AM
Apr 2015

When I was a kid. He was a battle scarred old Tom, missing an eye, tattered ears, scars all over him. He because an important part of our family.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
136. Ahh..Your family was very kind to take in an old cat like that
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 05:48 PM
Apr 2015

I don't know what you named him, but it sounds as if he could have been called "Desperado",

after the old song by the Eagles.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
68. I don't know how much time is possibly for animal cruelty
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 12:13 PM
Apr 2015

The long term punishment will really be losing her license.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
49. Did you happen to see this from her blog...
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 08:11 AM
Apr 2015

The proof is there:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141071260#post48

'I was accepted to vet school at CSU so I'm in the middle of spending 4 years of a new life in Ft. Collins, CO so that I have something to call a career! If that doesn't pan out, I'll attempt to marry someone rich so I can spend the rest of my days at higher elevations doing what I love.'

...

'Current interests: Living my days to the fullest, finding the meaning of happiness, killing things or trying to kill things (animals, a full glass of whiskey, hangovers, etc)'

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
50. This woman sounds insane
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 08:49 AM
Apr 2015

Serial killers usually start out by slaughtering helpless animals.

While they are investigating this house cat killer, they might want to dig up her back yard too.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
84. Wow! Well, it's likely that even if she doesn't lose her license she won't be hired again.
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 02:43 PM
Apr 2015

And as to the marriage option... I would bet she's going to have some slim pickins now. I'd be scared to look at the ones who would marry her after that.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
18. Yep, cruelty to animals is a sign of
Sat Apr 18, 2015, 11:36 PM
Apr 2015

some serious mental issues. I'm amazed that she had no shame over that. I'm sure that fits with her mental disorder.

Peregrine Took

(7,413 posts)
32. A feral cat is just homeless.
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 01:15 AM
Apr 2015

I hate the term....so prejudicial. I adopted two of them and they responded instantly to kindness and love. Were wonderful pets.

JudyM

(29,233 posts)
110. Says you. Or maybe you just haven't read the facts about how factory farms are run.
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 07:56 PM
Apr 2015

It'd be far better to live life free and get an arrow through the head than the way cows are treated.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
86. What an incredibly insensitive post.
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 02:52 PM
Apr 2015

Do you support torturing cows or do you only eat humanely raised beef?

AngryDem001

(684 posts)
111. Oh, please.
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 08:37 PM
Apr 2015

Cows are raised as livestock. Have been for thousands of years.

And, humans are carnivores.

AngryDem001

(684 posts)
118. I mean I can eat meat and not feel guilty about it.
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 11:59 PM
Apr 2015

At the same time I can look at that pic in the FB post and feel utter revulsion.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
119. Okay, but what I was referring to is the poster was throwing it in the face of someone who is
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 12:07 AM
Apr 2015

clearly concerned with animal rights, and doing it in a rude manner. It's one thing to say what you said, it's another to say "Cows are yummy". That's just childish and meant to piss someone off, not have a discussion. Granted, the post they were responding to could have been worded differently as well, but that does not excuse that remark. I see that sort of thing far to often from meat eaters on DU.

But since you have opened the can of worms... do you eat factory farmed beef/pork?

Incidentally I'm not entirely vegetarian myself, but I understand how the animals are tortured and limit my meat intake to poultry - mostly free range, organic, though sometimes I can't dictate that - and only about 3x/week. So while I'm not completely innocent, if everyone ate as little as I did I think factory farming could be avoided.

AngryDem001

(684 posts)
120. I try my best to avoid factory-farmed meats.
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 12:41 AM
Apr 2015

I also pay attention to where my meat comes from.

If it's not from the US, I don't touch it.


I was in a grocery store, and I saw Talapia from China. No. Hell no.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
85. Pointing out another way of inhumanely treating animals does not mean one supports the vet.
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 02:49 PM
Apr 2015

In fact, the post was not about the vet at all. It was about the response to the vet's actions.

What's wrong with wanting all animals to be treated humanely? Surely you've heard of factory farming and how awful the cows are treated? If not, you should look into it. It's really disgusting.

tenderfoot

(8,426 posts)
97. The poster was dismissing the actions of the vet.
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 04:11 PM
Apr 2015

Period.

I'm well aware of the horrors that factory farming is guilty of. Which is why I avoid meat but thanks for the unsolicited advise.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
59. I don't. Stopped eating meat some years ago.
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 10:35 AM
Apr 2015

And that, coming from a former "Beef Stater", born and bred.

Response to msongs (Reply #33)

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
88. Well you got what you wanted, sort of...
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 02:57 PM
Apr 2015

it doesn't take a "self-righteous" person to see how disgusting your hidden post was and how uncaring this one is.

I thought Dems were supposed to be compassionate and open to discussions. DU proves me wrong every damn day.

Takket

(21,563 posts)
89. jury
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 03:06 PM
Apr 2015

On Sun Apr 19, 2015, 01:45 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

It might be better for the world to hack up vegetarians nt
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1071504

REASON FOR ALERT

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ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Wow. So vegetarians should be "hacked up"? I'm not even a vegetarian. But then I'm a compassionate human being. This sentiment does not belong on DU.

JURY RESULTS

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Stupid ridiculous alert from a humorless individual.
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: well..........
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
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Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
128. Many people eat meat and yet don't enjoy killing. A tough distinction to understand
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 10:13 AM
Apr 2015

Many people eat meat and yet don't enjoy killing. A tough distinction for the lower phylums to understand, I'd imagine...

Wolf Frankula

(3,600 posts)
34. Feral Cat Declares
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 01:25 AM
Apr 2015

When the rats and mice, who would invade your homes, invade your granaries, invade your gardens, flee, they flee from us. It is we who guard you ceaselessly while you sleep. It is we who keep your bread and cheese safe. It is we who keep the plague from your door.

Wolf

bearssoapbox

(1,408 posts)
38. My wife and I have been into cat rescues for over 30 yrs.
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 02:29 AM
Apr 2015

The horrible things that I've seen people do to cats is unbelievable.

I still cry when I see something like this. Whether it's a feral or not. Or a cat or not.

So many of those poor babies are just put out because they get pregnant, accidently scratch someone or left when someone moves.

We are currently trying to get a TNR program in our area but no local vets are willing to do a cheap enough procedure so it is slow. At the moment it is cheaper to take the cats to an animal rescue/clinic 50 miles away than to have them done locally. The logistics of the distance slow things down a bit.




leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
40. not all vets are wonderful people.
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 06:48 AM
Apr 2015

Boy, her judgement is seriously off. Not only for shooting the poor cat but forbragging about it onFB. Wow


Judi Lynn

(160,525 posts)
43. She boasts that this is her FIRST bow kill. She's a filthy, hidious P.O.S.
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 07:16 AM
Apr 2015

These creatures who have no adequate shelter, no homes are not living that way by choice. They have been abandoned. Anyone who has ever seen a cat torn apart by a group of "domestic" dogs, as I did, as a little girl, is traumatized for life. Think what the animals go through who have absolutely no where to find shelter.

When the slaughter is committed by someone you would automatically trust to care for the wellbeing of animals, it's clear someone has entered the business through fraud.

Loathesome, despicable, egotistical, sadistic piece of ####. If there's any justice at all, she will become so loathed people will stop going within a mile of her office and her practice will go down the dumper. Will leave her so much more time to go bow-hunting.

[center]

He couldn't escape the animal "doctor."[/center]

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
54. I'm sorry for the poor kitty
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 09:23 AM
Apr 2015

But I'm glad this animal killer/hater outed herself quickly at the beginning of her vet career.

I'd like to see the next animal shelter or vet office that will hire this cat killer...instant massive protests will follow!

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
45. I saw a Maricopa County Jail guard shooting at cats with their non-lethal guns
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 07:32 AM
Apr 2015

I'm not sure exactly the type of ammunition they use, obviously not real bullets.

I was there 14 days as a pretrial defendant for possession of marijuana at the Durango Facility (Minimum security) and anyone that has seen the outside & knows there are cats all over the place somehow. 1 or maybe 2, certainly 1 that I remember with the duty guards during our rec time (only time I took it as all it is a fence outside to either socialize or run laps within the perimeter. One guard was having fun taking shots at the cats.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
48. Did you happen to see this damning entry from her blog, Steve? Just incredible.
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 08:06 AM
Apr 2015
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026527761#post53

'I love Wyoming and the mountains....the Big Horns especially...but any will do when it really comes down to it. I love hunting, fly fishing, pack trips, the outdoors in general, horses, skiing, dancing, whiskey, my friends, my family, God, raising hell, my daddy, and sheep...ya, that's right. I love having good times with good people. I recently discovered that what's important in life is to simply live, laugh, love, & learn. And to find a way to be happy with the everyday, simple things in life. I was accepted to vet school at CSU so I'm in the middle of spending 4 years of a new life in Ft. Collins, CO so that I have something to call a career! If that doesn't pan out, I'll attempt to marry someone rich so I can spend the rest of my days at higher elevations doing what I love.'

.../

Current interests: Living my days to the fullest, finding the meaning of happiness, killing things or trying to kill things (animals, a full glass of whiskey, hangovers, etc)...

http://wyogirl-kristenlindsey.blogspot.com/2011/02/happy-birthday-grandpa.html?hc_location=ufi#comment-form

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
65. Twisted family values- her mother took the picture
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 11:45 AM
Apr 2015


http://www.kbtx.com/home/headlines/Veterinarian-Brags-About-Killing-Cat-with-Bow-and-Arrow--300293461.html?device=tablet&c=y

Kristen Lindsey’s parents apparently saw her kill the cat. Afterwards, her mom says she took the controversial photo.

In the comment section below the Facebook where Lindsey bragged about it, her mom Becky wrote "She was practicing in the yard. Jack and I were watching and saw it all go down!" (see Featured images below this story)

Someone named James DG then questioned whether the picture was altered using Photoshop.

Becky replied, "I took the picture!"



suffragette

(12,232 posts)
82. It will be fitting justice if the mother has to own up to witnessing this and provides
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 02:03 PM
Apr 2015

The investigation with eyewitness proof to her daughter's guilt.

enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
70. Good. I'm glad the mother claimed the photo,
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 12:56 PM
Apr 2015

because yesterday the police were saying they didn't know if they could try to prosecute, not knowing if the photo was real or photo-shopped.

Her mom just made it easier to charge her disgusting spawn with everything they can think to throw at her.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
72. Yes, now I hope the police don't back down with the pressure from the wealthy down there.
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 01:18 PM
Apr 2015

P. S. I am from *down there,* and the changes in my native state are just horrifying every time I go back to visit, because I see the bigger picture.

And with a breather from it, the differences aren't just something to be ignored as most people naturally do when they live somewhere and the small changes build up. It's not at all the way it was when I grew up there.

enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
75. I understand what you're saying.
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 01:24 PM
Apr 2015

Seems like the whole country is going to hell in a selfish, "me first and 'f' the rest" handbag.

That said, the Austin country sheriff sounds like he truly wants to get something stuck to this nasty piece of work. Cruelty to animals wouldn't get her jail time, but it might be enough that the Texas Vet Board revokes her license to practice. I hope they can push something - she needs to face some real consequences for this horrible act.

City Lights

(25,171 posts)
95. Yep.
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 03:35 PM
Apr 2015

Doesn't seem to be much to investigate. She not only killed the cat, she's proud of it, and Mama is proud of her little sociopath. Sick values they have.

Response to suffragette (Reply #65)

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
73. Thanks for posting that here and earlier. These people are frightening, they'd extend this to people
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 01:22 PM
Apr 2015
and they'd guffaw and slap each other on the backs while others are hurt or dying. It's a nightmare unfolding from the curse of unearned wealth.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
78. Absolutely incredible. The callous, cruel stupidity just
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 01:32 PM
Apr 2015

leaves me shaking my head.

Mother and daughter - one of a kind.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
142. She may love God, but I'm not sure the feeling is mutual.
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 03:08 PM
Apr 2015

If She's out there, She is probably a cat person-or a cat somewhat-other-than-person.

Response to tenderfoot (Reply #61)

matt819

(10,749 posts)
76. What a piece of work this vet is
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 01:26 PM
Apr 2015

BTW, work is a euphemism for shit.

Where I live, a number of shelters have a program of capturing and neutering feral cats and then making them available as barn cats. Over the past five years or so we have had five. Three went walkabout, or were prey to fishers or coyotes or the elements. But while they were in our barn, they were looked after, and their lives were better, more cat-like, than if they had stayed in the shelter. All the shelters we go to are no-kill shelters, so while they would have lived if no one took them, they wouldn't have had great lives.

We have two barn cats at the moment. One has been with us for almost two years, the other for around four years. They will never be warm and cuddly, or even moderately friendly, but they have a safe place to go to when they're done doing their cat-like stuff.

So the idea of shooting a feral cat in the head runs seriously counter to how things can and should be done.

Yes, I know, you can argue in some sense that what I'm doing perpetuates the problem with strays. But all the animals we adopt from the shelter are spayed and neutered, and the fact is that they are there. And we are decent human beings. And I'd like to hope that we, and not that vile vet, are in the majority.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
80. She claims the cat was feral.
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 01:42 PM
Apr 2015

But most likely it wasn't. Her neighbor's cat is missing. That cat was a pet cat, very friendly. And photos and videos show a cat who looked just like the one that was killed.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
81. Okay, this is bad and stupid......
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 01:45 PM
Apr 2015

...and I hardly ever even respond to this kind of thing. But THREE INVESTIGATORS!?!??!

- This country is fucked.

K&R

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
105. Yes, thank you
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 05:20 PM
Apr 2015

I doubt this much attention would be paid or this much outrage expressed if it had been a homeless human who was killed. Why are people able to muster so much more emotion for any kind of animal than for a human being?

treestar

(82,383 posts)
127. I think it is the way she took a picture of herself with her "trophy"
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 10:09 AM
Apr 2015

kill and is beaming about it. Killers of humans can't do this if they don't want to be caught. Or if they did and it was later found, it would spark more than the usual outrage against a murderer.

Strange she did not realize it was illegal. Going through vet school I'd have thought there would be at least one ethics course and that would come up.

But I was thinking how Tsarnaev's conditions of imprisonment worried some to the point they were arguing it would be torture for him to be in solitary. This is different in kind of course, in that she does not face jail time or solitary.

City Lights

(25,171 posts)
92. I won't be satisfied until she loses her license and is in jail.
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 03:29 PM
Apr 2015

Glad they're investigating. I know Alley Cat Allies offered a $7500 reward for information leading to her arrest.

Boomer

(4,168 posts)
102. I live near rural areas
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 04:52 PM
Apr 2015

I know more than one person who has had to cull feral cats from around their property because the communities were growing out of control. They were due in great part to city people who drive out to the country and dump unwanted pets. A few of the friendlier and more trusting cats could be live-trapped and taken into the town's shelter, but the others were shot.

But none of those people took any joy in having to kill. It was a chore they hated.

The delight in this woman's post is what I find so sickening and what should disqualify her from her profession.

enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
104. Trap, neuter, release.
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 05:12 PM
Apr 2015

The best way to reduce the population is to allow feral colonies to exist, but not to breed. Culling by killing doesn't stop breeding.

This chart shows that TNR works by reducing, humanely, the number of free-roaming cats. They are also healthier because they are vaccinated and less aggressive because they are neutered.

Since January of 2010, almost 21,000 cats in my area have been trapped, neutered, vaccinated, and released.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
106. Just can't follow this story. The headlines make me feel sick.
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 05:46 PM
Apr 2015

I wish people could please stop posting on this. I don't want to insult you Omaha Steve. You are one of my favorites on this board. But this story is just too horrible.

hlthe2b

(102,234 posts)
109. More, not less light needs to be shone on animal abuse... It is beyond painful to me, but it is the
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 07:41 PM
Apr 2015

public response that immediately followed exposure of this woman's horrendous act, that has led to 1. her being immediately fired: 2. appropriate law enforcement agency notified and an appropriate investigation begun (and continued pressure is pushing them to make it a priority); 3. immediate denunciation by the Texas Veterinary Medical Association; 4. immediate denunciation and clarification of the oath taken by veterinarians from the dean of her own veterinary school; 5. announcement from the Texas Board of Veterinary Medical Examiners (the licensure board) that an investigation would be undertaken with respect to her license.

I can understand the desire not to see the horrific picture, but I am beyond grateful that the outrage has ignited the public in action. We owe it to this and every other animal (or child) who suffers as a result of such violent and sociopathic behavior.

TexasTowelie

(112,141 posts)
108. I lived in Brenham during 2012 and 2013.
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 07:25 PM
Apr 2015

I'm glad that I took my calico to a different clinic when it was time to get her spayed. I expect that the clinic where she worked is going to lose a significant amount of business and they should pursue a civil lawsuit against Ms. Lindsey for the damage that she did to their business reputation.

chemenger

(1,593 posts)
141. The Cats of Ulthar
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 02:47 PM
Apr 2015

I wish the same fate should fall upon her as it did upon the old couple who delighted in capturing and killing the townspeople's cats.


BTW for those who might not be familiar with the reference ... The Cats of Ulthar is a short story by HP Lovecraft

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