Boehner: Clinton needs to bring Democrats along on trade

[Omaha Steve]

Source: AP

WASHINGTON (AP) — House Speaker John Boehner says Hillary Rodham Clinton needs to back trade legislation that President Barack Obama wants — and help get Democrats on board.

Boehner says Republican votes alone aren't enough to give Obama the negotiating authority to complete an Asia-Pacific trade deal. He tells NBC's "Meet the Press" that Obama "needs her help" and Clinton should be more involved.

Boehner says Clinton "can't sit on the sidelines and let the president swing in the wind."

FULL short story at link.


Read more: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/c7ec75aada5c40a8979279c51c87024b/boehner-clinton-needs-bring-democrats-along-trade

[leftofcool]

1. Hello, Beohner, guess what? Hillary is not a Senator.

At the moment, she is a private citizen and can't vote on legislation.

[Reter]

36. Post number 7 should not have been hidden

Even though he replied to you, it was clearly aimed at John Boehner.

[emulatorloo]

39. Yep, I've seen juries screw up like that before

[still_one]

2. Boehner, you can't even control your own party. The Democrats will be fine without your advice

[Fuddnik]

3. Is that an endorsement?

More like a poison pill.

[L0oniX]

25. Looks like it.

[Mnpaul]

29. This confirms my suspicions

that the Republicans are just giving the Democrats enough rope to hang themselves with another trade deal.

[bulloney]

4. Huh? Boehner's just pulling stuff out of his ass just to make Hillary look like a weak leader.

I wonder how many drinks the ole Cockwork Orange polished off before he made that statement?

[Stryder]

23. Cockwork Orange

That's a keeper.

[L0oniX]

26. So Boehner is helping Bernie now?

[djean111]

5. Seems to me like HRC supporters are vacillating, here at DU, between "Hey! This is the

greatest thing since bleached shrimp!" and "Don't you think it would benefit EVERYBODY if American jobs either completely left America and/or the remaining ones paid a lot less? You heartless assholes!" and, my favorite by a hair - "Hillary did NOT help write the TPP or talk it up! And if she did, it was only because she was Obama's unwilling puppet!"

This is what Washington's idea of buy-partisanship is - and it ain't pretty.

Ooops! I forgot - "Yeah, there are corporate lawsuits to overturn laws and regulations that affect corporate profits, held in secret, and not being subject to appeal - but Hey! we have not lost one of those YET!".

[SMC22307]

11. How are they convincing themselves that this trade deal is a good thing?

Some implicitly trust Obama, which is foolish. Others clearly use those who implicitly trust Obama to their advantage... it's rather fascinating (and frustrating) to watch.

Boehner and Obama on the same side. No thanks.

The unwilling puppet could have stepped down on principle, eh? But that's taking too strong a stand...

[historylovr]

12. +1

You left out "You must be anti-trade" and "What, you don't like agreements between countries?" Otherwise, spot on.

[djean111]

14. There are just so many inane arguments to pick from. I also forgot "You hate Obama!".

As if Obama is the most important thing in this whole mess.

[historylovr]

17. Very true.

It'll be interesting to see what they come up with next.

[LiberalArkie]

18. I really liked your "buy-partisanship" Farm out

[fasttense]

22. Bleached shrimp? Oh how gross

Now they are bleaching the shrimp too? I am so glad I raise my own food. I think I would be so sick and unhealthy if I ate what most people get from the grocery store. Yuk, - bleached shrimp, gassed meat, ammonia laced ground meats, poison drenched vegetables, hormone injected milk and meats - I think I'm going to be sick.

[djean111]

31. We currently inspect about three percent of imports.

Last edited Sun May 3, 2015, 12:36 PM - Edit history (1)

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/consumers-eating-feces-tainted-shrimp-fish-seafood-asia/story?id=17491264

The November issue of Bloomberg Markets magazine, in a piece on food poisoning and safety, says that it is common practice in some parts of Asia to feed fish pig waste. It describes, for example, the sanitary conditions at a fish factory on the southern coast of Vietnam. "Flies," it says, "crawl over baskets of processed shrimp."
The shrimp at some plants are packed in ice. That's good. What's bad: it's ice made from water often found to be contaminated with bacteria and unfit for human consumption, say Bloomberg's reporters in Hanoi.
Vietnam ships 100 million pounds of shrimp a year to the U.S., about 8 percent of the shrimp sold in America.

Reuters says the U.S. Food and Drug Administration in June recommended removal from the U.S. market of South Korean shellfish, including clams and mussels, because, said the agency, the fish might have been exposed to human fecal waste or otherwise contaminated. At least 4 U.S. consumers have become ill after eating South Korean seafood, said the FDA.

Outside Hong Kong, at a tilapia farm, fish are fed a diet that includes pig and geese feces. That practice, Michael Doyle tells Bloomberg Markets, is unsafe for U.S. consumers, because the manure may be contaminated with salmonella. Doyle is director of the Center for Food Safety at the University of Georgia. Fish farmers, he says, use fecal matter as a cheaper alternative to commercial fish food.

The FDA inspects food shipments to the United States, including seafood shipments, but the agency's resources are limited, says Bloomberg's report. It is able to inspect fewer than 3 percent of shipments. Of that, reports Bloomberg, much is sent back. The FDA has rejected 1,380 shipments of Vietnamese seafood since 2007, finding filth and salmonella.

I understand that having such high standards for imported foods may be illegal under the TPP/TTIP, as would be banning GMOs or requiring labeling. Because profits.

And I feel I have a right to know NOW, before Fast Track means I can only read it and weep.
Other countries are protesting the TPP/TTIP, by the way, not just us "Obama-haters." FFS.

[L0oniX]

27. "buy-partisanship" oh I luv that.

[lark]

41. Ya know

I'm here almost every day and I've never seen a post anywhere near what you are claiming. No Dem, except the ones who are 100% sold out like DiF, wants American jobs to go overseas. In fact, it's the Obamabots that are always saying TPP isn't bad, our super awesome president supports it, so sending out jobs and selling out our climate laws must be a good thing. He's the one pushing this, not HRC. Quit with the bait and switch, it's just not true and you damn well know it.

[Scuba]

46. I've seen it, almost verbatim.

[lark]

48. I haven't, but I will take you at your word.

Still, why would you parrot idiot posters who lie? Why would you try to lay TPP on HRC when it's BHO who's pushing it hard, not her?

[City Lights]

6. No she doesn't. nt

[YOHABLO]

40. and god help her if she does.

[ibewlu606]

8. ?

Birds of a feather. I don't understand why people are so surprised that Boehner would reach out to another bought and paid for Wall St. hack for help in getting TPP passed.

[turbinetree]

9. Hey Bone Head

why don't you ask for some advice from Bernie Sanders, Sherrod Brown, Elizabeth Warren, Alan Grayson and the progressive Congressional Democratic Caucus, what they think of the trade bill.

All three say its really bad.
Have you even seen the Trade Treachery.com piece by Grayson----
Why should I have 1/7 of this country assets being sold to entities that are sucking the very life blood out of the population / country for greed and not give anything in return---no jobs.
Why should I have a hidden cost of $35,000 dollars being placed on me and my family because some corrupt politician like yourself (lets all go back now and take note of you--- bucko---- the orange face, golf playing, wine drinking hypocrite----taking 200+ days off in the 113th Congress---- making $224,000 a year doing nothing , except handing out checks from the tobacco lobby on the house floor in 1996 to the other corrupt politicians).

Hey, Boehner, did you not see or understand that Sanders is running against your political corruption on trade, you know the thing called TPP (Toilet Paper for People) to use.
He is running to be our next progressive president or is this a news flash---zippy ---here's, Johnny, where my golf shoes.

As for Warren---why do you think she said she read the deal and it basically sucks, and it gives the oligarchy a means to attack the sovereignty of the country at the state, federal and local level by a panel made up of judges that in the back pocket of the oligarchy.
And just a reminder, Sherrod Brown was given twelve minutes notice in the Finance committee by Orrin (right wing republican Hatch) and then cut off from debate when he and Warren said they want this information to be seen by the public------nope ----not under your republican caucus, you don't need any transparency---your the party of greed and corporations

And now you have issues because you need help from Democrats on this TPP---don't think so bucko-------- pull a rabbit out of the hat, you might get better results.

And what is really remarkable the public gets more right wing babble from the supposed transparent news organizations like Face the Nation, Meet the Press, ect...... and the question was asked:

Question:Why do you always have republicans on your shows
Answer: Because they are in power
Questions: Why do you have republicans on your shows when they are not in power
Answer: Because they are the minority

And for the record isn't Toodle's (Chuck Todd) just a talking point mouth piece of the right wing oligarchy called GE/Comcast, who supports this deal of corruption, just imagine them being a judge on sovereignty of patents.

NO Johnny, should be your answer on the trade deal called TPP

[SMC22307]

10. Boehner allied with a Democratic president on a trade deal...

that will hurt American workers. Awesome. Who woulda thunk it?

[Enrique]

13. He gave Obama the same marching orders last year

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/economics-trade/197525-boehner-obama-must-sell-trade-bill-to-senate-democrats

"Unfortunately, like many of our jobs bills, his party's leaders in the Senate are standing in the way," Boehner said. "The president needs to use his bully pulpit only as the president can, and change their minds."

"I certainly hope and expect he will help us move this bill forward on behalf of American workers," he added. "Otherwise, all the talk about a year of action would appear just to be another broken promise."

[elzenmahn]

35. Boehner can blow it out of his ass...

...like just about every other piece of condescending bullshit that he spews.

No wonder he drinks - it masks the taste.

[Cryptoad]

15. the yellow man also said

that if you are Medicaid you dont have any insurance that no Doctors would honor Medicaid. ummmmm? Love that GOP Logic,,,, No insurance is better than not have a GOLD card insurance plan. All the poor people thank you, yellow man!

[RiverNoord]

16. Doesn't anyhone see what he's doing?

Sanders is against the TPP, and for good reason. Most American citizens are, also, when they find out what's in it (or, more particularly, when they find out that they can't even see what's in it). Boehner's putting HRC on the spot regarding her support for a publicly unpopular initiative that her (currently) sole primary challenger is against.

Of course she can't do anything about the status of the treaty. This is an impressively subtle (for the modern Republican party) attempt at attacking her where she is weak among progressives.

Only one problem - I don't think he realizes just how formidable Bernie Sanders will be...

[Enrique]

19. he's putting her in a spot between her donors and the voters

he did the exact same thing with Obama, except that it was much easier because Obama doesn't have to worry about voters anymore.

[RiverNoord]

21. Yup.

[L0oniX]

28. "how formidable Bernie Sanders will be" ding ding ding

[drynberg]

20. Hey, Boner is now thinking of our President and wanting Hilary to back him (see below)

Right, The Hill backs Obama and the TPP and the Rethugs get what they need to get for their "bosses"...Ole Boner must really think that we are idiots not to see his "clever thinking"...remember kids, boozing has a stiff price...

[diabeticman]

24. Proof that this TPP thing is a bad thing that could happen in this country.

[maindawg]

30. I hope they do

Force HC to make her position clear regarding the TTP. I would like to hear her say its a bad deal and that she does not support it.

[The Green Manalishi]

32. ANYONE voting for this or supporting this is dead to me

Fuck them.

And I do not care WHO they are; if you support destroying our economy even further you are as much of my enemy as any tea partier.

[ibewlu606]

33. Right on!

I like the way you think!!!!

[Elwood P Dowd]

38. Same here. (nm)

[CharlotteVale]

49. Me too. My own so-called Democratic rep is for it. Fuck him.

[Populist_Prole]

34. I wonder what the TPP shills here are thinking

That Boner [ SIC ] every now and then has a good idea?

I wonder how many times Boner said "no" to this administration so far. Now he's all yesses when it comes to a plutocrat gravy train.

[Larkspur]

37. Boehner's comment is a good sign for the anti-TPP/Fast Track movement

It shows that WE are winning the war against corporate sponsored free trade.
Republicans, especially, in blue states or districts don't want to be alone on voting for this horrible blil. They need enough Democrats to be able to blame when more American jobs leave our shores and not enough low wage jobs are created in kind.

[lark]

42. So, Boner, you can't get crazy Repugs to vote you way,

so now you need to rely on Democrats? I really reallty hate it that so many Dems are corporate sell outs and will help you, even though it kills the economic hopes of their constituents.

[ut oh]

43. F that...

that trade deal should be killed and a more open/public one started.

[quadrature]

44. Repubs' plan is to maximize exposure of HRC to the voters ...

plan accordingly

[wordpix]

45. if Bonehead is for it, it must be bad

I'll trust Warren, Sanders and Sherrod Brown on this far ahead of Boner. As for Obama, I hypothesize this is some kind of deal - he'll give the R's TPP and they won't shut gov down, or some such thing.

[mmonk]

47. LOL. So does Boehner fancy himself some sort of leader nowadays?