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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue May 5, 2015, 09:11 AM May 2015

Hillary Clinton to call for path to citizenship at Nevada campaign stop

Source: Reuters

Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton will announce at a Nevada campaign stop that she supports a full path to citizenship for undocumented workers as part of an overhaul of the U.S. immigration system.

Clinton is scheduled to appear at a Las Vegas high school Tuesday afternoon during her third campaign trip in an early-voting state after declaring last month that she would be seeking the presidency in November 2016.

Rancho High School, where Clinton will appear at a roundtable discussion, is less than 10 miles north of the famous Las Vegas strip of casinos. Its student body is approximately 70 percent Hispanic and includes some students who would be eligible for a special residency status for those who entered the U.S. as children under a stalled Democratic immigration proposal.

Clinton is expected to say in her remarks that a “true solution” to the country’s immigration problems would include “nothing less than a full and equal path to citizenship”, according to an advisory provided by a campaign aide.

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Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/2015/05/clinton-to-call-for-path-to-citizenship-at-nevada-campaign-stop/

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Hillary Clinton to call for path to citizenship at Nevada campaign stop (Original Post) DonViejo May 2015 OP
For people who have given us so much... yallerdawg May 2015 #1
kick & R Evergreen Emerald May 2015 #2
kick Iliyah May 2015 #3
K&R!!! lunamagica May 2015 #4
No path to citizenship should be given other than to apply like everyone else Red Oak May 2015 #5
If you believe this maybe you should vote Republican lunamagica May 2015 #15
Enjoy your stay on DU cosmicone May 2015 #16
Parrots do better Texano78704 May 2015 #22
Who is a parrot? candelista May 2015 #25
"Americans used to work those fields" awoke_in_2003 May 2015 #29
bullshit Kali May 2015 #23
Wrong! We've taken advantage of these people, and they deserve better. Even old Reagan was Hoyt May 2015 #27
YOu seem unaware of asylum seeking. duhneece May 2015 #30
She likes H1b visas, too. candelista May 2015 #6
Cheap labor comes from unndocumented workers lunamagica May 2015 #7
Cheap labor drives everyone's wages down. candelista May 2015 #8
Again, cheap labor is a problem with undocumented workers lunamagica May 2015 #9
"Equal low wages for everyone." candelista May 2015 #10
But they arent new! lunamagica May 2015 #11
This will encourage more illegal immigration. Beauregard May 2015 #13
Not necesarily lunamagica May 2015 #14
Just think about it for a while. Beauregard May 2015 #17
I totally agree with you on improving economic conditions in Latin America lunamagica May 2015 #19
One thing that would help them out big time is eliminating NAFTA d_legendary1 May 2015 #21
Yes. nt candelista May 2015 #26
HR-Clinton for everyday illegal aliens Geronimoe May 2015 #12
"Path to full citizenship" sulphurdunn May 2015 #18
Good. That would be both smart and humane. Comrade Grumpy May 2015 #20
Some people on DU have enough respect for others to give reasons for their opinions. Beauregard May 2015 #24
Others Stand For Immigration Reform As Well - Nothing Special Here About HRC cantbeserious May 2015 #28

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
1. For people who have given us so much...
Tue May 5, 2015, 09:34 AM
May 2015

time for us to give back!

Let the conservatives wallow in their last gasp of racism.

Red Oak

(697 posts)
5. No path to citizenship should be given other than to apply like everyone else
Tue May 5, 2015, 10:32 AM
May 2015

I understand that non-documented immigrants are looking for a better life, I understand that they have really helped U.S. businesses by taking jobs at lower wages than citizens of the U.S. would, I have seen them be exploited, working "off the books" as it were. It really helps the profits and, even at these pay levels, it helps the non-documented immigrants, human beings with families, relative to what they have back home or they would not accept the large risks.

They are also here illegally. Emphasis on illegal.

One can't discuss the issues facing the middle class and working poor in America without recognizing illegal immigration as a key component.

What to do? Start enforcing the laws that say that if you are non-documented, you can't get a job here, then penalize companies that hire non-documented immigrants making it unprofitable.

Non-documented immigrants can apply for citizenship the same as everyone else applying to be a citizen. No preferential treatment. If they get citizenship - great! Welcome! If not, they have a choice to make on what to do with their future. Just as they came, they may also have to leave. Some times large risk doesn't pay off. Especially when laws are broken.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
15. If you believe this maybe you should vote Republican
Tue May 5, 2015, 11:34 AM
May 2015

Since both Democratic candidates support a full path to citizenship for the 11 million undocumented workers living here.

Yes, Bernie Sanders also supports full legalization for undocumented workers.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
16. Enjoy your stay on DU
Tue May 5, 2015, 11:39 AM
May 2015

By calling them "illegal" and criminalizing people looking for a better life you have two choices: 1. Arrest all of them and put them in jail (at a cost of some $100K per person per year which we don't have or 2. Arrest all of them and deport them back -- which will cost about $200K per person in manhunts, arrests and transportation. In the meantime, their families, many of whom are US citizens, will starve and will have to be put on welfare, medicaid etc. at an additional cost.

When the pilgrims came, did they come with visas issued by the Native American Nations? When the Irish, Italians, Russians, Dutch etc came, did they come with visas obtained after standing in line?

Do you know that there are a lot of English, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch and other EU country citizens living illegally in the US? (almost two million of them) They don't even have to jump over a fence and walk through desert -- they come on visa waiver programs and simply never go back.

(The visa waiver programs are utterly racist -- only white countries (except Japan) have visa waivers and their citizens can come and go as they please. No one ever mentions the illegal immigration resulting from them.)

What you are essentially saying is that brown-skinned people should be kept under our thumb and forced to jump through hoops so that they can qualify for the crumbs that we throw at them.

Texano78704

(309 posts)
22. Parrots do better
Tue May 5, 2015, 05:37 PM
May 2015

at repeating words that this. It's all anti-immigrant memes, no real thought here.

One can't discuss the issues facing the middle class and working poor in America without recognizing illegal immigration as a key component.


Any time y'all want to go pick fruit and vegetables for twelve hours a day, go for it. Otherwise, shut the hell up.
 

candelista

(1,986 posts)
25. Who is a parrot?
Tue May 5, 2015, 08:31 PM
May 2015

You yourself are guilty of the thing you accuse the other poster of. There's no "real thought" in you post either. Americans used to work those fields. But right, they won't do it for substandard wages and they won't do it 12 hours a day.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
29. "Americans used to work those fields"
Wed May 6, 2015, 08:08 PM
May 2015

Whether it be slaves, share croppers, or migrant workers, Americans have long depended on someone else to work those fields for little or nothing at all.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
27. Wrong! We've taken advantage of these people, and they deserve better. Even old Reagan was
Tue May 5, 2015, 08:38 PM
May 2015

sympathetic, maybe for the wrong reasons.

duhneece

(4,110 posts)
30. YOu seem unaware of asylum seeking.
Wed May 6, 2015, 08:25 PM
May 2015

I grew up thinking that Russians and East Germans who came/stayed in our country without their documents were freedom seeking heroes.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
9. Again, cheap labor is a problem with undocumented workers
Tue May 5, 2015, 11:14 AM
May 2015

Once they are legal, it is equal wages for everyone.

They are already here. They are already working, so there is enough demand.

The problem lies with corporations sending factories overseas.. That's the issue that need to be fixed.

 

candelista

(1,986 posts)
10. "Equal low wages for everyone."
Tue May 5, 2015, 11:18 AM
May 2015

That's what happens when you flood the job market with millions of new workers.

 

Beauregard

(376 posts)
13. This will encourage more illegal immigration.
Tue May 5, 2015, 11:28 AM
May 2015

The ones already in the US have already done their job of driving down wages in low end jobs--ones that the poorest Americans have to compete for. The promise of citizenship for current illegals will encourage future illegals. There will be another amnestia, then another, etc. That's the idea.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
14. Not necesarily
Tue May 5, 2015, 11:31 AM
May 2015

Believe it or not, not everyone wants to come to America.

BTW, Bernie Sanders is also in favor of a full path to citizenship.

 

Beauregard

(376 posts)
17. Just think about it for a while.
Tue May 5, 2015, 11:56 AM
May 2015

Economic conditions in Latin America are getting worse, not better, and the population keeps growing. These forces will continue to drive people to climb the fence. How many more millions can the US take? Twenty million? Fifty? A hundred? Long before that time US wages will be driven down to the level of Third World workers.

Better solution: we should do something to help people south of our border to improve economic conditions in their own countries so they don't have to leave to find work. Step one: the US should stop its predatory lending practices in Latin America--and elsewhere.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
19. I totally agree with you on improving economic conditions in Latin America
Tue May 5, 2015, 12:33 PM
May 2015

That would be best for everyone.

However, for the 11 million already here, people who have built a life, a home; people who have roots here, children who are American citizens. People who already have deep roots here. It would best for everyone to make them legal.

But yes, we must help to improve living and working conditions abroad so no one risks life and limb to cross the border out of desperation looking for a better life.

d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
21. One thing that would help them out big time is eliminating NAFTA
Tue May 5, 2015, 03:36 PM
May 2015

and all these stupid free trade agreements that have destroyed their livelyhoods in their respective countries. Since free trade agreements bring the price of their goods and services down they have no choice but to go to other countries and make a living while living dangerously as undocumented migrants.

http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2013/11/24/what-weve-learned-from-nafta/under-nafta-mexico-suffered-and-the-united-states-felt-its-pain

 

Geronimoe

(1,539 posts)
12. HR-Clinton for everyday illegal aliens
Tue May 5, 2015, 11:24 AM
May 2015

Rescind Bill Clinton's NAFTA and banksters will not be putting Mexicans out of work with big-Ag.

 

Beauregard

(376 posts)
24. Some people on DU have enough respect for others to give reasons for their opinions.
Tue May 5, 2015, 08:14 PM
May 2015

You are not one of these people. So why should I read anything you've got to say? I'm putting you on ignore. Just thought I'd tell you.

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