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Faygo Kid

(21,478 posts)
Tue May 5, 2015, 05:29 PM May 2015

Louie Gohmert Sounds The Alarm About Possible Military Takeover Of Texas

Source: Talking Points Memo

Tea party darling Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) on Tuesday demanded that the U.S. military alter a planned training exercise that some conspiracy theorists believe is cover for a possible takeover of the Lone Star state.

Gohmert said in a statement that he understands Texans' concerns that the exercise, dubbed "Jade Helm 15," may be a precursor for martial law. He directed his criticism specifically at what has been reported to be a map of the training exercise, which labels Texas, among other states, as "hostile" territory:



"Once I observed the map depicting ‘hostile,’ ‘permissive,’ and ‘uncertain’ states and locations, I was rather appalled that the hostile areas amazingly have a Republican majority, ‘cling to their guns and religion,’ and believe in the sanctity of the United States Constitution," Gohmert said in the statement.

"Such labeling by a government that is normally not allowed to use military force against its own citizens is an affront to the residents of that particular state considered as 'hostile,' as if the government is trying to provoke a fight with them," he later added. . .

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/louie-gohmert-jade-helm-15



Tragedy tomorrow, comedy tonight. Louie is the gift that keeps on giving. Enjoy his full statement, and the comments on it, here: http://gohmert.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=398216
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Louie Gohmert Sounds The Alarm About Possible Military Takeover Of Texas (Original Post) Faygo Kid May 2015 OP
Uh, dumbass Louie: Texas is already a state shenmue May 2015 #1
He's angling to take the "most idiotic congressman" crown from Steve King. Comrade Grumpy May 2015 #2
I bet they are sad that their fellow stooge is retiring. progressoid May 2015 #64
Curly, Moe and Larry wolfie001 May 2015 #83
I hope they all give themselves ulcers. louis-t May 2015 #3
Yeah the label hostile is used for a geographical context dumb azz. In other words, some of these okaawhatever May 2015 #4
How do you take over a state that's already part of the country? arcane1 May 2015 #5
Louie! Get a clue!. This is the plan to keep YOU in, you obnoxious twit. n/t jtuck004 May 2015 #6
I find a whole lot to be uncomfortable with Louie Gohmert... drynberg May 2015 #7
Oh, drynberg, brer cat May 2015 #19
I don't even want to. Jamastiene May 2015 #52
Right on, Louie TheCowsCameHome May 2015 #8
I just want to reassure all my friends in Texas. TygrBright May 2015 #9
I met a sane one in Houston back in the 70's LiberalArkie May 2015 #11
There were, and are sane ones in the Harris County Democrats (progressive wing of the local party) Manifestor_of_Light May 2015 #20
I don't remember Frankie TexasBushwhacker May 2015 #29
Frankie was before my day. Manifestor_of_Light May 2015 #46
THE Carter Lumber? Jamastiene May 2015 #54
"Hang on, this too shall pass." TexasTowelie May 2015 #27
More likely constipation. Jamastiene May 2015 #55
Yeah? Well, WHERE ARE THEY at voting time? calimary May 2015 #38
Thank you very much! hamsterjill May 2015 #57
In celebration of sane Texans Jack Rabbit May 2015 #70
Actually, I kind of wish he was right. DuckBurp May 2015 #10
Please secede? world wide wally May 2015 #12
You're right Louie, absolutely right. I think we should drop Texas from the war games. A Simple Game May 2015 #13
This was mentioned on CBS' Sunday morning show left-of-center2012 May 2015 #14
K&R...Thanks for posting red dog 1 May 2015 #15
Gohmert's asparagus is ashamed of him.... n/t xocet May 2015 #16
Here's hoping... Plucketeer May 2015 #17
what's his tea laced with? heaven05 May 2015 #18
So what are the rules of engagement for dealing with armed nuts who disrupt the exercise? Sen. Walter Sobchak May 2015 #21
Fortunately for us, Thespian2 May 2015 #22
Gomert's BFF is Alex Jones. Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #23
Louie Gohmert: Shit-for-brains stupid, AND way late on this matter. Paladin May 2015 #24
K & R n/t GP6971 May 2015 #25
STD..Smokey The Dope n/t gelsdorf May 2015 #26
Welcome to DU, gelsdorf! calimary May 2015 #41
Ahh, the perfect storm. Combine this with the coming SC announcement that hating gays is no longer NoJusticeNoPeace May 2015 #28
how are these people so stupid? seriously? samsingh May 2015 #30
that is the stupidest thing cindyperry May 2015 #31
Oh Louie... roamer65 May 2015 #32
Okay Texas, you're surrounded, jomin41 May 2015 #33
Critical Mass fmdaddio May 2015 #34
If that's what he wants, lets give it to him. bl968 May 2015 #35
I agree completely. Remove all military bases, etc., from Texas, plus all the DOD money, Nay May 2015 #37
At my craziest moments, I wish for the same. But the 'Republic of Texas' was divided up to make 5 freshwest May 2015 #76
The sad thing is Kelvin Mace May 2015 #36
Twice a day, every day, I throw salt over my left shoulder. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #44
Yep! Kelvin Mace May 2015 #48
If it weren't for people like us, Jackpine Radical May 2015 #58
Oh lick my ass, Louie! If that map were reversed... DRoseDARs May 2015 #39
Check out how stupid Gohmert looks GarColga May 2015 #40
Why don't we just pull our military bases out Jackpine Radical May 2015 #42
Heh heh! RecoveringJournalist May 2015 #43
If the colors were reversed.... Red Mountain May 2015 #45
This guy is dangerous. SoapBox May 2015 #47
all i can say is allan01 May 2015 #49
Texas? davidthegnome May 2015 #50
If NC acted this way over training exercises, Jamastiene May 2015 #51
Clown car hits giant puddle and stalls. truthisfreedom May 2015 #53
Gohmert needs a military takeover of Gohmert orbitalman May 2015 #56
Gohmert needs Jackpine Radical May 2015 #59
Sounds like somebody is angling to be a GOP vice-presidential candidate! progressoid May 2015 #60
This is interesting... mac2766 May 2015 #61
Unfortunately for sane vets everywhere.... StandingInLeftField May 2015 #77
I hate to say it but I fear that some serviceman is going to get shot over this bigworld May 2015 #62
Who in their sane mind would want to take over Texas? workinclasszero May 2015 #63
I agree. StandingInLeftField May 2015 #78
Is it possible for the United States to expel a state from the Union? workinclasszero May 2015 #82
Conspiracy theory Noah331 May 2015 #65
His announcement was followed by a run on tin foil at local stores. kairos12 May 2015 #66
Texas Gov Greg Abbott ordered the Texas National Guard to monitor the activity of the red dog 1 May 2015 #67
I've got my Black Obama '16 armband ready so they'll know I'm a "friendly" when the time comes. NBachers May 2015 #68
Best Rant Ever..... IdiotsforPalin May 2015 #69
I concur!!!!!! StandingInLeftField May 2015 #79
What will this idiot say when treestar May 2015 #71
You know ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #75
Texas IS a hostile state, thanks to idiots and dumb shits like Gohmert. If there is going to be whereisjustice May 2015 #72
federal take over of texas , might be good for it allan01 May 2015 #73
Louis Gohmert Is Far Smarter Yallow May 2015 #74
Yeah, Texas annexation by the US tyrants is always a possibility, isn't it? Helen Borg May 2015 #80
Being too rough on Louie packman May 2015 #81

okaawhatever

(9,461 posts)
4. Yeah the label hostile is used for a geographical context dumb azz. In other words, some of these
Tue May 5, 2015, 05:40 PM
May 2015

soldiers will have to make their way out of "hostile" territory and into "permissive" territory as part of the exercise. They will probably have to travel at night and do other things that one would do if they were in a "hostile" area or behind enemy lines.

I read that the guy who designed this exercise is from a small town in Texas and saw this as a way to generate income for his old hometown. (In addition to having the terrain & climate needed). It was probably easier for him to plan much of this if he was familiar with the area. This isn't rocket science Louie.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
5. How do you take over a state that's already part of the country?
Tue May 5, 2015, 05:40 PM
May 2015

Sorry, I just put more thought into this than Gohmert did

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
52. I don't even want to.
Wed May 6, 2015, 01:07 AM
May 2015

That kind of ignorance coupled with that level of paranoia cannot be a good experience. I almost feel sorry for the ones that are that dumb and paranoid...almost.

TygrBright

(20,759 posts)
9. I just want to reassure all my friends in Texas.
Tue May 5, 2015, 05:46 PM
May 2015

I *DO* know, that no matter how hard many of your current crop of elected representatives are working to make you the punchline of a joke about idiocy, there are plenty of sane, smart, embarrassed people in Texas.

Hang on, this too shall pass.

sympathetically,
Bright

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
20. There were, and are sane ones in the Harris County Democrats (progressive wing of the local party)
Tue May 5, 2015, 06:16 PM
May 2015

Harris County Democrats was founded by Frankie Carter Randolph and Billie Carr back in the 1950s. They got disgusted with Democrats for Eisenhower and decided the Harris County Democrats (in Houston) needed a progressive organization.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
46. Frankie was before my day.
Tue May 5, 2015, 10:02 PM
May 2015

Frankie Carter Randolph was a rich liberal whose family owned Carter Lumber. She is buried in Glenwood Cemetery.
My parents told me about her.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
54. THE Carter Lumber?
Wed May 6, 2015, 01:12 AM
May 2015

Oh how I miss that place. My hometown here in NC once had a Carter Lumber store. I loved that place. I miss it.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
55. More likely constipation.
Wed May 6, 2015, 01:18 AM
May 2015

With gallstones, they put you on a table, stick a bunch of tubes in your belly, blow your belly up, suck out the gallbladder altogether, and destroy your figure for life. I haven't been able to contain all the hernias and other hideousness since having my gallbladder taken out. They told me to do situps starting the minute they were done operating on me. They kept making me get up and walk and do situps. They told me to keep doing them. I have hernias now everywhere they inserted a tube for the operation. I used to be so skinny and had such a nice belly. Gallstones are like children. They give you hernias and destroy your figure.

I wish it had been constipation, like this Louie guy is for Texas. I hope Texas can pass him soon and get some relief.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
57. Thank you very much!
Wed May 6, 2015, 03:06 PM
May 2015

Man, we have our share of idiots, don't we???!!!

But appreciate your acknowledgement that not ALL of us are nut cases!

DuckBurp

(302 posts)
10. Actually, I kind of wish he was right.
Tue May 5, 2015, 05:46 PM
May 2015

I live in Texas and maybe by a military takeover we could be saved from all the wing nuts around here.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
13. You're right Louie, absolutely right. I think we should drop Texas from the war games.
Tue May 5, 2015, 05:58 PM
May 2015

Of course that will mean that millions that would have been spent in Texas will now be spent in the other areas of the war games.

To prevent any further chances of the USA taking over Texas I think starting immediately we should start moving all military installations, equipment, and personnel into other parts of the country leaving Texas worry free from invasion by the USA and placing the burden of supporting the US military on parts of the Country that are more deserving of being invaded by their own Country. The lost revenue for Texas shouldn't be over a few billion a year, every year.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
14. This was mentioned on CBS' Sunday morning show
Tue May 5, 2015, 05:58 PM
May 2015

Unsubstantiated reports claim an unnamed "Texas Ranger" who wished to be unidentified (thus the unnamed part) said there are railroad box cars full of shackles for restraining tens of thousands of people.
And that Obama will declare martial law and refuse to leave office after 2016.

The Texas National Guard supposedly has been put on alert to monitor any movement within Texas by federal troops. Yeehaw!

Although CBS reported this as a conspiracy theory I was surprised they even mentioned it.

red dog 1

(27,792 posts)
15. K&R...Thanks for posting
Tue May 5, 2015, 05:59 PM
May 2015

I think it's time for Gohmert to go on the Alex Jones show & spew his venom there.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
17. Here's hoping...
Tue May 5, 2015, 06:07 PM
May 2015

..that the Army is successful in conquering Texas and they send it to Guantanamo while we spend a few decades defining the charges!

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
18. what's his tea laced with?
Tue May 5, 2015, 06:11 PM
May 2015

fucking idiot and the whole section of the political spectrum is getting more unstable every day Obama is POTUS. Not a coincidence.

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
21. So what are the rules of engagement for dealing with armed nuts who disrupt the exercise?
Tue May 5, 2015, 06:16 PM
May 2015

A retired German officer who did some training in the US in the mid-90's told me the briefing on militia groups in the area was far and away the most memorable part of the training exercise since the possibility of exchanging fire with these lunatics was portrayed as plausible.

Thespian2

(2,741 posts)
22. Fortunately for us,
Tue May 5, 2015, 06:22 PM
May 2015

the GodOffalParty provides plenty of entertainment...Poor Louie...I'd feel real sorry for him if both his brain cells fired at once...

Paladin

(28,254 posts)
24. Louie Gohmert: Shit-for-brains stupid, AND way late on this matter.
Tue May 5, 2015, 06:40 PM
May 2015

The Right-Wing Crazies train left days ago on this one, Louie. Pull your head out of your ass and play a little catch-up, OK?

calimary

(81,220 posts)
41. Welcome to DU, gelsdorf!
Tue May 5, 2015, 08:27 PM
May 2015

Glad you're here! I am totally dumbfounded about Texas. My husband and I feel the same way. Every time we see "Governor Oops," it reminds us of his smug snarky shit - specifically when he strongly implied that "we could always secede." Both my husband and I still respond with some form of "well, WHY DON'T YOU????" Or "Please, please, pretty please!!!" Or "Quit toying with us and just DO IT!" Or "Go ahead. Make my day!"

I'm sorry. All I can think of when I see louie gohmert and his ilk is - THAT says a lot more about you Texas voters than it even does about him."

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
28. Ahh, the perfect storm. Combine this with the coming SC announcement that hating gays is no longer
Tue May 5, 2015, 06:45 PM
May 2015

able to be state sponsored; oh my are the sparks gonna fly.

jomin41

(559 posts)
33. Okay Texas, you're surrounded,
Tue May 5, 2015, 07:57 PM
May 2015

We can do this the hard way, or we can do this the easy way. Give it up now and nobody gets hurt. Think of the children. You've got five seconds. Five....

fmdaddio

(192 posts)
34. Critical Mass
Tue May 5, 2015, 08:00 PM
May 2015

Are we there yet? How far does this has to go before the disinterested majority realizes these people are dangerous nuts? Can't say I'm surprised that this is coming out of Texas. The Military takeover nonsense plus Pamela Gellar's idiotic stunt. I can't believe that they still can surprise me sometimes. But just when I think " no they cannot get any worse" well they do.

bl968

(360 posts)
35. If that's what he wants, lets give it to him.
Tue May 5, 2015, 08:07 PM
May 2015

You know he's right, the Department of Defense should begin immediately taking steps to remove every soldier, marine, sailor, and airman from that state along with every defense department dollar that entails.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
37. I agree completely. Remove all military bases, etc., from Texas, plus all the DOD money,
Tue May 5, 2015, 08:21 PM
May 2015

from that stupid state. See how well they do then, the morons.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
76. At my craziest moments, I wish for the same. But the 'Republic of Texas' was divided up to make 5
Thu May 7, 2015, 01:43 AM
May 2015
American states if IIRC.

The Army of Reconstruction needs to stay there in case they try to take that territory back!

I was born there. Texans are brought to think they are VERY special!


 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
36. The sad thing is
Tue May 5, 2015, 08:14 PM
May 2015

that once the exercise is over and the military coup fails to happen, they will claim it is thanks to their vigilance.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
44. Twice a day, every day, I throw salt over my left shoulder.
Tue May 5, 2015, 08:50 PM
May 2015

Somebody asked me why I do that. I told him--it keeps the elephants away.

"There are no elephants around here," he said.

"Damn effective, isn't it?" I replied.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
48. Yep!
Tue May 5, 2015, 10:48 PM
May 2015

I personally use my psychic powers to protects the Earth from Klingon invaders.

Look up in the sky. See any Klingon Battle Cruisers?

You're welcome!

 

DRoseDARs

(6,810 posts)
39. Oh lick my ass, Louie! If that map were reversed...
Tue May 5, 2015, 08:23 PM
May 2015

...you'd be as happy as a pig in slop, you hypocritical fraud.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
42. Why don't we just pull our military bases out
Tue May 5, 2015, 08:44 PM
May 2015

or, better, shut them down entirely, and abandon the %$#& state?

With immediate apologies to all the wonderful Texans, including our own DU posters. Thoughts of Hightower, Wendy, The memory of Molly Ivins.

Hey, folks--we'll have lots of room for you when we send our own Teabaggers, homophobes, racists, and political dimbulbs (but I repeat myself) down there to be closer to their heroes.

Red Mountain

(1,731 posts)
45. If the colors were reversed....
Tue May 5, 2015, 08:50 PM
May 2015

Would he be happier?

Would he abandon the traitorous trash talk if he thought the military was on his side?

Kinda guessing he would.

This asshole hates most of the country he pledges allegiance to.

He wants CONTROL.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
51. If NC acted this way over training exercises,
Wed May 6, 2015, 01:05 AM
May 2015

the southern central part of the state would be in permanent turmoil. There are booming sounds as I type this. It's called training exercises. Special Forces, the UN, Camp Mackall, Fort Bragg and Pope all do some of their training in my county to the southwest of them and in some of the other counties nearby. It is make believe so that soldiers can learn what to do in different scenarios.

Does this guy not understand the concept of training exercises? I guess this article sort of answers that question. You'd think it would be a requirement that government employees at least be somewhat intelligent enough to understand very simple concepts.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
59. Gohmert needs
Wed May 6, 2015, 03:43 PM
May 2015

a sanity takeover of Gohmert.

It sometimes seems like there's a grand collaboration between the media and the Republican Party to see how far they can lead the people of this country into brainless, paranoid absurdity. I personally know people who believe in ancient aliens, believe Obama is plotting to take over the country in some kinda Nazi Commie revolution, deny climate change theory and evolution, and are allowed to walk around loose and vote and everything.

 

mac2766

(658 posts)
61. This is interesting...
Wed May 6, 2015, 04:11 PM
May 2015

Claims Jade Helm 15 is a hoax.

There may well be a National Guard exercise called “Jade Helm.” Thus far, no one has seen anyone, nothing has happened and we can assure you this, nothing will happen. The whole thing is a hoax, part of the grand “fear porn” game.

Anyone spreading wild Jade Helm rumors, originated as Zio-Neocon talking points sent out to their paid bloggers, is going to have to sit in the corner with a tin foil hat for some time. We are talking a dozen states with 1200 of our own troops. Were it 60,000 we would at least see a rise in business at fast food restaurants and whore houses.

Much more at link

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/04/18/jade-helm-another-neocon-hoax/

77. Unfortunately for sane vets everywhere....
Thu May 7, 2015, 07:10 AM
May 2015

the responses to Gordon Duff's (senior editor, veteranstoday.com) cogent plea for a reality-based response to Jade Helm are running about 75/25 in favor of a gubmint takeover.

So sad, so sad....

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
63. Who in their sane mind would want to take over Texas?
Wed May 6, 2015, 04:32 PM
May 2015

It would be way better to build a fence around it and declare it the teabaggers homeland.

Inlet only, no outlet

78. I agree.
Thu May 7, 2015, 07:14 AM
May 2015

Perhaps a sort of land swap could be set up, with sane folks who would like to LEAVE Texas exchanging property with insane folks in other states who would like to JOIN the TexasTeaHadists.

Is it possible for the United States to expel a state from the Union?

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
82. Is it possible for the United States to expel a state from the Union?
Thu May 7, 2015, 10:50 AM
May 2015

Great idea! Call it the reich wing promised land!

The koch bros will rule as absolute monarchs and will strictly enforce Sharia teahaddist religious law, reinstate slavery, multiple spouses(for men only of course) and concubines, woman confined to the bedroom and kitchen for life, etc because...the mega church says so.

Of course Mexico may not like having such a medieval horror state just to its north and may decide to invade and liberate, oh well.

Viva la libertad!!!!

Noah331

(7 posts)
65. Conspiracy theory
Wed May 6, 2015, 06:33 PM
May 2015

Could it be that our president has found away to out the crazy politicians holding office. Could be advantage for 2016 democrats.

red dog 1

(27,792 posts)
67. Texas Gov Greg Abbott ordered the Texas National Guard to monitor the activity of the
Wed May 6, 2015, 06:52 PM
May 2015

U.S. military in his state, to insure nothing suspicious was going on, a move which was so preposterous that it drove former Republican Texas Rep. Todd Smith to write to Abbott begging him to stop "pandering to idiots"
http://www.forwardprogressives.com/texas-rep-louie-gohmert-jade-helm-conspiracy-ridiculous?

whereisjustice

(2,941 posts)
72. Texas IS a hostile state, thanks to idiots and dumb shits like Gohmert. If there is going to be
Wed May 6, 2015, 10:40 PM
May 2015

martial law, it's going to come at the hands of dumb asses like Gohmert who want to turn Texas into Jesusland.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
81. Being too rough on Louie
Thu May 7, 2015, 10:02 AM
May 2015

I love him. Never fails to evoke a laugh and provides comic relief that is all too rare today. He's Laurel's dumb brother, he's the fourth Stooge, he's the dumbest of Dumb and Dumber. In addition, if one needs to point a finger at all the stupidity and asininity going on in the Conservative movement, there's Louie sitting in the corner.

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