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former9thward

(31,981 posts)
Thu May 7, 2015, 05:14 PM May 2015

Cameron's Conservative Party set to be biggest party in UK

Source: CNBC

The Conservative Party are on track to win the U.K. national election, the first exit poll showed on Thursday.

The incumbent center-right Conservatives are seen winning 316 seats, according to the poll by the BBC public broadcasting service.

The rival Labour Party is seen winning 239 seats.

The outcome of the 2015 U.K. election has been the most difficult to predict in decades with neither of the two biggest political forces, the center-left Labour Party and the incumbent center-right Conservative Party, forecast to win enough seats to form a government. This could result in days—or even weeks—of wrangling as Conservative leader, David Cameron, and Labour leader, Ed Miliband, attempt to forge alliances with a disparate array of smaller parties.

Read more: http://www.cnbc.com/id/102654418

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Cameron's Conservative Party set to be biggest party in UK (Original Post) former9thward May 2015 OP
Election 2015: Exit poll puts Tories close to majority Bosonic May 2015 #1
At least UKIP only got 2 iandhr May 2015 #2
CSpan is covering it. lamp_shade May 2015 #3
This is the problem with national polling vs district by district. brooklynite May 2015 #4
The YouGov exit polls are quite different, and a bit closer to pre-election polls renegade000 May 2015 #5
although now the feed says that the YouGov poll is not technically an exit poll... renegade000 May 2015 #6
Yes, YouGov re-interviewed 6,000 people they had polled in the previous weeks muriel_volestrangler May 2015 #7
The UK seems to wait for a throw the bumbs out election. iandhr May 2015 #8
Unfortunately, you may be right about 2020. forest444 May 2015 #11
fixed iandhr May 2015 #12
Exciting isn't it! forest444 May 2015 #13
SNP sweeping Scotland does not bode well for the UK as a whole. roamer65 May 2015 #9
If the Conservatives can get 316 seats then they will almost certainly have the totodeinhere May 2015 #10
Need something to smilie about iandhr May 2015 #14
The Guardian has some great reporting asiliveandbreathe May 2015 #15
All Hope, No Change seveneyes May 2015 #16
I still think it's too early to tell. Turborama May 2015 #17
The Cons cannot rule the UK only representing England. roamer65 May 2015 #18
No party can for that matter. It will be fascinating to see how all of this eventually totodeinhere May 2015 #19
Dream result for the SNP T_i_B May 2015 #20
Why not? The Cons represent approximately ten times the number of people that the SNP do. Nihil May 2015 #23
I don't like the results. T_i_B May 2015 #21
Brits are right wing. Just like Americans. candelista May 2015 #22
I think they won because of David Cameron donna123 May 2015 #24
Orignially constitution said 1 rep per 30k harun May 2015 #25
With 30,000 an average person could run for Congress. former9thward May 2015 #26
I was thinking the same thing. It could be done. harun May 2015 #27

Bosonic

(3,746 posts)
1. Election 2015: Exit poll puts Tories close to majority
Thu May 7, 2015, 05:15 PM
May 2015
Election 2015: Exit poll puts Tories close to majority (UK election)
Source: BBC

The Conservatives are set to be the largest party in the Commons but just short of a majority, according to the general election exit poll.

The survey taken at polling stations across the UK suggests the Tories will get 316 MPs to Labour's 239 when all the results have been counted.

It suggests the Lib Dems will get 10 MPs, the SNP 58, Plaid Cymru 4, UKIP 2 and the Greens two.

The exit poll was conducted by NOP/MORI for the BBC, ITV and Sky.

Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-32633099

renegade000

(2,301 posts)
5. The YouGov exit polls are quite different, and a bit closer to pre-election polls
Thu May 7, 2015, 05:46 PM
May 2015

YouGov Exit Poll: CON - 284 LAB - 263 SNP - 48 LDEM - 31 UKIP - 2 GRN - 1

(from the feed: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2015/may/07/election-2015-live-final-votes-cast-as-battle-for-power-looms)

I suppose I'd rather these be the case, so perhaps I'm a bit biased, but it does strike me as a bit more plausible than the BBC's numbers. The BBC's numbers were quite extraordinary, not only did they wildly deviate from their pre-election polls that had Lab/Con in a dead heat, but they've predicted the SNP to win every single constituency in Scotland (save 1) as well as the nigh total annihilation of the Lib Dems, which seems a bit extreme... even Nicola Sturgeon was urging supporters to curb their enthusiasm... even 48 seats would be a HUGE gain.

I guess we shall see.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,306 posts)
7. Yes, YouGov re-interviewed 6,000 people they had polled in the previous weeks
Thu May 7, 2015, 06:49 PM
May 2015

to ask how they had voted after all. The exit poll (it's a joint BBC ITV and Sky one) is actually getting votes from people as they leave the polling stations (they get them to mark a similar ballot to the real one, so they don't even have to say to the pollster how they voted). That's about 22,000 voters at 140 stations.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/may/07/election-2015-how-do-exit-polls-work

They try to do most of those where they did one before so they can compare it; but with SNP likely to gain lots of seats, and Lib Dems lose a lot, they'll have more stations than normal where they don't have a previous poll to compare with.

iandhr

(6,852 posts)
8. The UK seems to wait for a throw the bumbs out election.
Thu May 7, 2015, 06:50 PM
May 2015

Last edited Thu May 7, 2015, 08:25 PM - Edit history (1)

1980-1997 17 years of Tory rule

1997-2010 13 years of labour rule


2010-2020 10 years of Tory rule.


forest444

(5,902 posts)
11. Unfortunately, you may be right about 2020.
Thu May 7, 2015, 08:24 PM
May 2015

And, as you know, thanks to Cameron the U.K. would have to wait that long until calling another election even if no working majority can be achieved by anyone (in which case Cameron will almost surely "occupy" Number 10, as rumors suggest). We shall see.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
13. Exciting isn't it!
Thu May 7, 2015, 08:30 PM
May 2015

Even if one isn't in fact British.

If it were up to me, Her Majesty the Queen would be enabled to vote as well. She did, after all, cobble the current hybrid Con-Lib beast together.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
9. SNP sweeping Scotland does not bode well for the UK as a whole.
Thu May 7, 2015, 06:55 PM
May 2015

Scotland may become like what Quebec is to Canada.

I am not anti-Scottish, but just seeing similarities.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
10. If the Conservatives can get 316 seats then they will almost certainly have the
Thu May 7, 2015, 07:30 PM
May 2015

wherewithal to form a government by forming another coalition with the LiberalDems. The one good thing about this is if these exit polls are accurate Cameron will most likely not need to solicit support from the UKIP. I know he promised he wouldn't anyway but under certain scenarios it would have been very tempting for him to try to do so.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
15. The Guardian has some great reporting
Thu May 7, 2015, 08:38 PM
May 2015

Follow live election results --

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2015/may/07/live-uk-election-results-in-full

now I know - UKIP (independent party) - SNP (Scottish National Party) - some are saying the map could turn ALL yellow - SNP

Turborama

(22,109 posts)
17. I still think it's too early to tell.
Thu May 7, 2015, 09:25 PM
May 2015

Actually, praying would be a more apt word if I did that sort of thing. lol

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
18. The Cons cannot rule the UK only representing England.
Thu May 7, 2015, 09:44 PM
May 2015

This is an incredibly fractious election.

Labour losing their seats in Scotland is a "canary in the coal mine".

T_i_B

(14,737 posts)
20. Dream result for the SNP
Fri May 8, 2015, 02:58 AM
May 2015

They get as many seats as they possibly can for a regional party, and they also get to carry on blaming Westminster for everything as they will still be in opposition to the Tories.

 

Nihil

(13,508 posts)
23. Why not? The Cons represent approximately ten times the number of people that the SNP do.
Fri May 8, 2015, 08:41 AM
May 2015

The disgrace is that the SNP (as Labour did previously) can - in addition to running their *own*
national government - have now claimed 56 seats in the government ruling England & Wales
with less than 5% of the total vote (and fuck-all of that from the English or Welsh!):

CON 327 seats in total. 11,240,882 total votes taken. 36.8% share of the total vote
LAB 232 seats in total. 9,303,900 total votes taken. 30.5% share of the total vote
SNP 56 seats in total. 1,454,436 total votes taken. 4.8% share of the total vote
LibD 8 seats in total. 2,389,480 total votes taken. 7.8% share of the total vote
...
UKIP 1 seats in total. 3,861,457 total votes taken. 12.7% share of the total vote
Green 1 seats in total. 1,148,167 total votes taken. 3.8% share of the total vote

(Above trimmed down from http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2015/results)

Fuck the SNP ... I want proper proportional representation not this FPTP bullshit.

(FWIW, our resident Conservative MP kept her safe blue seat in my consistuency as there
is *still* no credible opposition to her ... sigh ...)

T_i_B

(14,737 posts)
21. I don't like the results.
Fri May 8, 2015, 03:01 AM
May 2015

But things have panned out this way for a reason.

Labour ran a lacklustre campaign. The party that's meant to be for the common man has lost the common touch. And the less that's said about Jim Murphy's Scottish campaign the better.

And the Lib Dems have destroyed themselves by giving up everything they stood for to grab power in the last parliament.

 

candelista

(1,986 posts)
22. Brits are right wing. Just like Americans.
Fri May 8, 2015, 03:21 AM
May 2015

I mean, the whole spectrum is skewed to the right in both countries. This is starting to happen on the Continent, too, but there is still a huge left there. In France, especially. Well organized, too. They shut down the country if anyone tries to screw around with their social programs.

donna123

(182 posts)
24. I think they won because of David Cameron
Fri May 8, 2015, 11:45 AM
May 2015

Don't know why but I've always had a fondness for the British. Maybe because of British literature, don't know. Though don't know what they have against good teeth and also don't care for their crazy tabloid culture. Their conservatives are not batshit crazy like ours are. When I look at David Cameron and compare to Ed Miliband, it's no contest. Cameron has an appealing face, round, attractive. Miliband is not appealing. Sure, I know this is superficial but is this really something that only I noticed.

Love that their election season is so short. Don't understand though, in a country of what 80 million? they have like 650 seats and we in a country of over 300 million have only about 550 seats in congress. Seems a bit excessive but at least their govt is more functional than ours with the intransigent batshit crazy repubs in power.

harun

(11,348 posts)
25. Orignially constitution said 1 rep per 30k
Fri May 8, 2015, 01:18 PM
May 2015

But they pegged it at 435.

1 per 30k would give us 10K in congress.

I can't imagine it would be any more of a circus than it is now.

former9thward

(31,981 posts)
26. With 30,000 an average person could run for Congress.
Fri May 8, 2015, 02:15 PM
May 2015

It would not cost much money to reach 30,000 people. And no, 10,000 would not have to meet in one place. With modern technology it would be easy to have regional congressional centers. And that would save on travel expenses and the expenses to have a 2nd residence in D.C.

harun

(11,348 posts)
27. I was thinking the same thing. It could be done.
Fri May 8, 2015, 03:38 PM
May 2015

I wonder if it would be best to have an all volunteer 10K. Would all meet, coordinate via the Internet. Then they would write up bills to be voted on and forwarded to the House.

You'd have The Peoples 10K, versus the Corporations 435.

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