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T_i_B

(14,737 posts)
Fri May 8, 2015, 07:27 AM May 2015

UK General Election: Ed Miliband quits as Labour leader

Source: BBC

Ed Miliband has stepped down as Labour leader after his party's disappointing general election showing.

Labour suffered heavy losses at the hands of the SNP, with the Tories forecast to achieve a majority.

In a speech in London, Mr Miliband said it was "time for someone else" to take over the leadership and confirmed deputy leader Harriet Harman would be interim leader.

Earlier the Labour leader, who took charge of the party in 2010, said it had been a "very disappointing and difficult night" for his party, which is forecast to win 234 seats, compared with 258 in 2010.

Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-32633388

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UK General Election: Ed Miliband quits as Labour leader (Original Post) T_i_B May 2015 OP
This is very unfortunate philosslayer May 2015 #1
Unfortunately T_i_B May 2015 #2
make Islamophobia a crime? seveneyes May 2015 #4
How can you make a belief a crime? n/t totodeinhere May 2015 #7
Last minute surprise by Tories? Helen Borg May 2015 #3
It's hand-counted paper ballots muriel_volestrangler May 2015 #10
Inevitable that he's going; but the whole thing is so depressing LeftishBrit May 2015 #5
Scotland has the SNP T_i_B May 2015 #6
But Labour lost it in in England and Wales, not Scotland muriel_volestrangler May 2015 #11
Will he go to the back benches now? iandhr May 2015 #8
Might do T_i_B May 2015 #9
 

philosslayer

(3,076 posts)
1. This is very unfortunate
Fri May 8, 2015, 07:30 AM
May 2015

Mr. Miliband was determined to make Islamophobia a crime. I was hoping he would prevail.

T_i_B

(14,737 posts)
2. Unfortunately
Fri May 8, 2015, 07:33 AM
May 2015

He was never a political leader you could get enthusiastic about, and under his leadership Labour simply drifted.

 

seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
4. make Islamophobia a crime?
Fri May 8, 2015, 07:56 AM
May 2015

What the hell does that entail? How exactly does one make an anxiety disorder illegal?
Would it preclude drawing cartoons of religious icons?

muriel_volestrangler

(101,295 posts)
10. It's hand-counted paper ballots
Fri May 8, 2015, 09:08 AM
May 2015

and they are pretty secure. The postal voting method is wide open to fraud on a small scale (eg claiming extra adults in a house, or one that's really unoccupied, and hoping they don't get called for jury service before you take them off the register again), and there have been some instance of that in local elections, but I don't think they'd be able to organise that on a large scale.

LeftishBrit

(41,205 posts)
5. Inevitable that he's going; but the whole thing is so depressing
Fri May 8, 2015, 08:04 AM
May 2015

Miliband was caught between the devil and the deep, and made the wrong choice. Keep options open with the Scots and invite even more 'Red Ed could be elected and be manipulated by the evil SNP!' scaremongering from the RW press; or rule out any deal with Scotland, and lose the whole of the Scottish vote rather than just a lot of it. He chose the latter.

Also, UKIP seems to have replaced the LibDems as the 'None of the Above' party, as well as of course appealing to its racist core base. It had been thought that UKIP would take votes from the Tories, but they seem to have taken them from Labour just as much.

At least UKIP only actually won one seat.

T_i_B

(14,737 posts)
6. Scotland has the SNP
Fri May 8, 2015, 08:16 AM
May 2015

But in England we have effectively gone back to 2 party politics thanks to the demise of the Lib Dems.

But Labour has also gone backwards in a big way. Caught drifting aimlessly between a rock and a hard place.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,295 posts)
11. But Labour lost it in in England and Wales, not Scotland
Fri May 8, 2015, 09:20 AM
May 2015

Even if Labour had hung on to every one of their Scottish seats, they'd still have been way behind the Tories.

If the Tories win St. Ives from the Lib Dems (the one remaining result at the moment), I think what will have happened is, from 2010:
Scotland:
SNP win 40 from Labour, 10 from Lib Dems
England & Wales:
Con lose 1 to UKIP, win 27 from Lib Dems, and lose 2 net to Labour (which I think is win 8, lose 10)
Labour win 2 net from Con, and 12 from Lib Dems
Lib Dems lose 39 - 27 to Cons, 12 to Labour

Since the Tories have an absolute majority, we know that even if Labour had taken all the SNP and Lib Dem seats, they'd still be behind.

T_i_B

(14,737 posts)
9. Might do
Fri May 8, 2015, 09:03 AM
May 2015

Might become part of the next shadow cabinet.

He might even follow his brother out of politics altogether.

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