Carson Warns 'More Groups' Will Want Marriage Equality If Gays Get It

[DonViejo]

Source: TPM

Republican presidential candidate and former neurosurgeon Ben Carson warned that if the definition of marriage were changed to include gay couples, it would also have to be changed to incorporate other types of unions.

But Carson, in an interview with CBNC's John Harwood, wouldn't elaborate on what other "groups" would be allowed to marry. Carson started out saying if you "change the definition of marriage for one group, what do you say to the next group?"

"What is the next group?" Harwood interjected.

"Do you say, 'well we changed it for this group but that's it, we're not changing it for anybody else?" Carson asked. "Does that seem fair?"

"Well, but what other groups are there?" Harwood asked.

"There are more groups, I guarantee," Carson said. "I think you know there are more groups. Everybody knows there are more groups."

"Honest to God, I don't know what you're talking about," Harwood said.

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Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/ben-carson-gay-marriage-groups-legal

[bravenak]

1. The man is sick.

[randys1]

2. He has directed his rage and intolerance at the wrong "group"

[bravenak]

4. He has always been angry.

[Scootaloo]

32. Sickness is blameless

There is no moral valuation if you are unwell.

No, this is what we call pandering. Carson is fully aware that he is totally full of shit. If he weren't, he would have some ready examples of these 'other groups,' and he would be more than happy to tellyou about them. He knows that his opposition is unbased and simple demagoguery, but he also knows that it sells, because above all else, Ben Carson is a salesman. So he'll say just enough to sell, but not enough to genuinely be considered a lunatic.

[bravenak]

34. Yeah. He's totally making shit up out of thin air.

I am never surprised by the shit he says. He is The ONLY black guy that I know of who stabbed a guy and nobody says shit about it, not even a thug or nuthin. Ben Carson is an Asshole, straight up.

[1StrongBlackMan]

53. Carson stabbed someone?

[bravenak]

56. As a teen he stabbed his friend.

[RKP5637]

3. This guy has some serious issues running around in his head. It's always the SOS. n/t

[Hekate]

5. Do you think he secretly reads Robert Heinlein's science fiction....

...and thinks it's really real?

Things that make you go hmmmmm.

[tanyev]

6. So hard to believe that he's a neurosurgeon.

[SwankyXomb]

8. He obviously

has been practicing on himself.

[mac56]

12. What do you call the person who graduates last in the class at medical school?

"Doctor."

[HERVEPA]

30. Actually, he was a brilliant surgeon.

[Archae]

40. My sister, (a retired nurse,) knew doctors like Carson.

They could be absolutely brilliant.

But they were absolute assholes.
Or worse.

[HERVEPA]

42. Yep.

But not sure why he is no longer a surgeon. May have been some mental break. Johns Hopkins is not saying due to confidentiality.

[Archae]

47. I have a hunch Carson is Herman Cain 2.0

He'll be "used up" by the GOP, then tossed aside, to fade back into the woodwork like Herman Cain did.

[HERVEPA]

48. True.

[BigDemVoter]

13. Physicians are always treated with kid gloves and respected as if they were all intelligent.

I know PLENTY of physicians who are fucking idiots-- no offense to any physicians on here.

He may know his neurosurgery, but he CERTAINLY doesn't know much about anything else.

[calimary]

23. Well, they've got a boatload of 'em on the CON side, who profess to be some sort of

medical professional or MD - and it appears from what they say and the positions they espouse that they all got their "degrees" out of a used kitty litter bag. I'm thinking of that former congress-idiot paul broun in georgia, rand "Screw the official ophthalmology certification that I have to pay a fee for, I'M just gonna certify MYSELF!" paul, that jerk former senator from Oklahoma tom coburn, current congress-idiot renee "I'm NOT giving up MY congressional salary even though we just shut down the government on everybody else's" ellmers, and more.

WHERE do they get these jerks?

[UpInArms]

41. Liberty University, maybe??

This guy is pathetic ...

[calimary]

45. Either that or "Regent" "University."

One of those two outfits turned out a bunch of young, rosy-cheeked partisan hacks who got snapped up immediately by the bush/cheney bunch. They knew nothing, really, except how to use the law to further their political agenda. And ambitious, scheming little fuckwads like monica goodling wound up having to testify before Congress and having to admit how their vote-caging, and political purging of some state prosecutors and hiring others - simply on a pure partisan basis - was "crossing the line."

Goodling also testified on Wednesday that she may have gone "too far" and inadvertently "crossed the line" in asking political questions of applicants for nonpolitical jobs at the Department of Justice. Goodling testified that she acted in good faith but that she "may have taken inappropriate considerations into account" when reviewing applications for career positions.

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/Politics/story?id=3204287

More...

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2007/05/monica-goodling-i-know-i-crossed-line

nica-goodling-working-for-ex-ashcroft-spokesman

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/judge-h-lee-sarokin/was-alberto-gonzales-vind_b_661334.html

[marle35]

43. There are very knowledgeable people who believe very screwed up things

My father was a physician. He is very knowledgeable, and comes across as very intelligent. He believes 9/11 was an inside job (in which controlled explosions by our government brought down the towers). My mother, who doesn't come across quite as intelligent as he, nevertheless is very knowledgeable. They are both impressive, for example, when it comes to knowing the answers to Jeopardy. They read a lot. Both are into Alex Jones type conspiracy theories.

It's not just what you know, it's what you choose to believe.

[RKP5637]

52. Education does not prevent stupidity. Many brilliant people are stupid as a bag of rocks! n/t

[HERVEPA]

31. Was

[Judi Lynn]

7. The standard Republican drool is that polygamous people will want it, and man & dog people.

They've been making up odd claims forever.

How about married Republican Congressmen and their aides, or their aides' wives, as with Senator John Ensign? How about Republican Senator David Vitter and a New Orleans home of prostitution? Republican Speaker Newt Gingrich? [font size=4]ETC. [/font]

[Hoppy]

21. Regarding Vetter, I want to know,

Are Depends better than Pampers?

[JoePhilly]

9. Hey dummie ... early Christian marriages were GROUPS!!!!

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/says_about/polygamy.html

[GeorgeGist]

10. When is Johns Hopkins gonna come clean ...

and tell us why Ben was asked to retire?

[yardwork]

11. Carson is a lunatic. /nt

[Android3.14]

14. $10 bucks says it's the group to which he secretly belongs

Perhaps he has a dolphin fetish?

[eggplant]

15. He's talking about polyamory.

And I can see no fucking reason why groups of people shouldn't be able to marry. It creates a coherent legal structure, nothing more, nothing less.

Why don't we just get it over with and equate marriage to legal incorporation? Please?

[KamaAina]

24. Then corporations would be people, my friends!

[eggplant]

37. Exactly. :)

[rock]

16. Well, obviously the first pair that comes to mind (limiting it to people) is

A corporation and a fetus.

[bvar22]

17. Before you know it...

...Zombies, Walking Dead, Vampires, Gremlins, Big Foots (feet?),
Leprechauns, and Santas Elves will ALL want their rights too, gddmmnit.
We have to draw the line somewhere!!!.

[awoke_in_2003]

33. Cats and dogs living together...

mass hysteria...

[davidpdx]

38. That line rolled through my head as I was reading it

I mean what if cats and dogs want to marry. What if Ben wanted to marry a horse? I think we should let him.

[Jamastiene]

59. Cats and dogs living together in sin?!?!?!!111!

Oh, the humanity! :

[awoke_in_2003]

62. ...

[progressoid]

18. Pretty soon Black and White people will marry each other!1!

[Binkie The Clown]

19. Business owners will want to get married to their work.

The old lady on the hill will want to marry all her cats.

Carpenters will want to marry their shop vacs.

The demand for sex-bots will go through the roof.

The shear horror of it all!

[Hoppy]

20. You got a problem with this?

I want to marry my flat screen teevee. It gives me a lot of pleasure.

[They_Live]

22. Like two corporations with different faiths?

Shut UP. Dickweed.

[LiberalElite]

25. Oh God - the If-we-give-it-to-one-we'll-have-to-give-it-to-all line

[Renew Deal]

26. Some people said that about healthcare.

Meaning that they wouldn't be able to get it when they needed it because the doctors would be too busy.

[Blue_Adept]

27. Maybe it's all the Japanese men marrying their anime pillows...

That must have him in a tizzy.

[Kalidurga]

28. "Honest to God, I don't know what you're talking about," Harwood said...

to Carson. I suspect that makes two of them.

[NanceGreggs]

29. Yeah, I can see his point.

When women won the right to vote, "other groups" demanded the same right. It was complete chaos after that.

[Jack Rabbit]

35. !!

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[whistler162]

36. Yup... look what happened with the results

of Lovie v. Virginia

[left-of-center2012]

39. He's right

Before you know it some Republicans will want to marry Democrats.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

44. That just won't work

[left-of-center2012]

49. Gawd knows

How does he put up with her?

[Jamastiene]

60. I have wondered that for a long time too.

I couldn't marry someone like her and even if I accidentally did, I couldn't stay with them. There is just no way. She is awful.

[vkkv]

46. Other groups? Heterosexual Liberal Gun Owners are going to want to get married, too.

Oh Nohhh ! Can't let THEM...

[yellowcanine]

50. "There are more groups, I guarantee," Carson said.

This is even better than I imagined it could be. Thanks John Harwood, for asking the question which called his bluff.

[Brainstormy]

51. reptiles, maybe?

And if they get in, can amphibians be far behind?

[Sgt Preston]

54. People should be able to make any kind of marriage contract they want.

Why not allow group marriage, polygamy, polyandry, etc., so long as all parties are consenting adults?

[Lil Missy]

55. What a Jackass. n/t

[HassleCat]

57. Drawing a Line

Odd that some people (like Carson) think we can't draw a line when it comes to marriage. They have no trouble drawing a clear, bright, very firm line at one man and one woman. They do have a little trouble explaining why God wanted it that way, but they have no trouble drawing the line. Now the line has moved, and marriage is a contract between one person and one other person. Big deal.

[treestar]

58. lol what groups

right wing lunatics?

[Jamastiene]

61. Marriage as defined in the Bible involves concubines and multiple wives

and men sleeping with their daughters in caves. That's the one they use against gay people the most, Lot and his daughters. Well, he has sex with his daughters in a cave. That is the protagonist of the story.

[libdem4life]

63. Well, to be fair, there weren't any men left. Or women, for that matter. Just. Gross. Ugh.

[Sparhawk60]

64. I am OK With This

I assume he means line marriages, multiple wives/husbands, or any other combination that does not harm me. As long as the people involved are on-board with it, I do not see why it is any concern of mine.

[robbob]

65. Man on hologram love?