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riversedge

(70,057 posts)
Thu May 14, 2015, 07:41 PM May 2015

Wisconsin GOP Advances Bills Controlling How People On Welfare Eat And Pee

Source: HuffingtonPost





Arthur Delaney

arthur@huffingtonpost.com


Wisconsin GOP Advances Bills Controlling How People On Welfare Eat And Pee



Posted: 05/14/2015 4:01 pm EDT Updated: 1 hour ago

Legislation approved by the Wisconsin State Assembly on Wednesday would require drug screening for poor people in the state who want public benefits and force food stamp recipients to spend most of their benefits on state-approved groceries.

One bill directs the state workforce agency to drug test some layoff victims applying for unemployment insurance. Another bill calls for a separate agency to implement drug screening for a variety of income support programs, including the federal Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program. And the third bill restricts two-thirds of SNAP purchases to "healthy" foods, while also banning the purchase of "crab, lobster, shrimp, or any other shellfish."

"We as a country are spending a fortune on health care costs for largely preventable diseases, and a lot of that relates to our habits as people -- we’re consuming the wrong foods," state Rep. Scott Allen, one of the SNAP bill's Republican cosponsors, said in an interview.

Few of the proposed rules are likely to take effect. Even if the state Senate passes the bills, federal law doesn't give states leeway to restrict SNAP purchases to certain foods, and the U.S. Department of Agriculture has denied waivers to states that have asked. Federal law also doesn't allow for SNAP drug testing, and President Barack Obama's administration has been moving as slowly as possible on new regulations that would allow drug tests for a narrow range of unemployment claimants. .................

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/14/wisconsin-food-stamps_n_7283654.html?ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000016




I think there is genuine mean streak in Walker--and his Republicans.


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Wisconsin GOP Advances Bills Controlling How People On Welfare Eat And Pee (Original Post) riversedge May 2015 OP
They know it won't take effect, so they're doing it just to be assholes? arcane1 May 2015 #1
I am glad to see this, eventually people will get pissed and REAL change will occur randys1 May 2015 #2
That is true project_bluebook May 2015 #3
He is trying to hone his asshole credentials cosmicone May 2015 #4
Corporate welfare top ten list project_bluebook May 2015 #5
It would seem? RiverNoord May 2015 #10
not that I doubt it, but would like a link, please wordpix May 2015 #29
Hello, no problem project_bluebook May 2015 #33
It is legislative masturbation. Half-Century Man May 2015 #6
Poor people have a hard time fighting back, so this is legislative bullying......by devout Christians. Fred Sanders May 2015 #14
Shellfish??? RiverNoord May 2015 #7
Against the law! elleng May 2015 #8
Is some wacko getting all Biblical RiverNoord May 2015 #9
The Shellfish thing isn't about abominations leftieNanner May 2015 #15
Exactly. gvstn May 2015 #22
'Small government' bastards! elleng May 2015 #16
And no Sharp cheeze--although same price at most places I shop. riversedge May 2015 #11
the sharp cheddar fraud police are enforcing the law! wordpix May 2015 #30
Smaller government, my A** Lifelong Protester May 2015 #12
First Lady asking folks to eat better, bad; government forcing folks to eat better, good...the GOP Fred Sanders May 2015 #13
Anything to find libodem May 2015 #17
2016 is going to bring down some serious pain on these knuckle draggers. nt onehandle May 2015 #18
I'd like to think so, but... RiverNoord May 2015 #32
Not only are republicans assholes... Unknown Beatle May 2015 #19
Wait a minute - aren't these the same folks LiberalElite May 2015 #20
but it's okay as long as THEY are the ninnies, oops, nannies. niyad May 2015 #21
Sounds to me as though he's advocating for RiverNoord May 2015 #34
Walker's strategy kenfrequed May 2015 #23
Well...WTF? SoapBox May 2015 #24
Red meat for the base, nothing more, nothing less. Scuba May 2015 #25
Based on the headline, I came in to see the answer to one burning question... Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #26
So now the repukes have gone mindem May 2015 #27
Unemployment is INSURANCE! Now if they drug test every home burning or car accident claimant... cpamomfromtexas May 2015 #28
The drug test requirement is sickening. RiverNoord May 2015 #35
Once again boys and girls, SNAP is a Federal Program. You don't get to decide the rules. yellowcanine May 2015 #31
Feels weird to see the word "pee" in a news headline. BlueStater May 2015 #36
 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
1. They know it won't take effect, so they're doing it just to be assholes?
Thu May 14, 2015, 07:44 PM
May 2015

Funny how they are so concerned with the nutritional well-being of only the poorest people in the state.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
2. I am glad to see this, eventually people will get pissed and REAL change will occur
Thu May 14, 2015, 07:45 PM
May 2015

in a very real way.

Problem is the middle class teaparty types eat this shit up, they will soon be part of the poor but we cant wait that long.

BTW, dont you FUCKING DARE call yourself a Christian and sign on to ANY of this bullshit

 

project_bluebook

(411 posts)
3. That is true
Thu May 14, 2015, 07:56 PM
May 2015

Most middle class progressives I know, and that isn't many, fall for the lazy poor don't deserve anything good crap. I try to explain that the little spent on the poor is nothing compared to the billions spent on corporate handouts but I have yet to change anyone's attitudes.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
4. He is trying to hone his asshole credentials
Thu May 14, 2015, 08:01 PM
May 2015

to win in Iowa.

Then he will veto that bill to win New Hampshire. It is just a chess game to them -- without realizing that there are real human beings affected by this.

 

project_bluebook

(411 posts)
5. Corporate welfare top ten list
Thu May 14, 2015, 08:07 PM
May 2015


Here are the 10 companies with the highest cumulative subsidy dollars received:

Boeing $13,174,075,797
Alcoa $5,635,305,059
Intel $3,867,492,085
General Motors $3,494,237,703
Ford $2,522,304,454
Fiat $2,060,988,039
Royal Dutch Shell $2,038,202,298
Nike $2,024,582,002
Nissan $1,799,585,041
Cerner $1,732,784,334

The total known value of awards received by 965 companies is $110 billion,

It would seem that the Koch state of WI would be more concerned with that then the pennies for the poor.




 

RiverNoord

(1,150 posts)
10. It would seem?
Thu May 14, 2015, 08:44 PM
May 2015

It's the whole point. If you ask most modern Republicans whether they favor money spent to assist the poor or to subsidize major multinational corporations, the answer would be pretty obvious...

 

project_bluebook

(411 posts)
33. Hello, no problem
Fri May 15, 2015, 04:27 PM
May 2015
http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/03/01/10-companies-receiving-the-biggest-handouts-from-t.aspx

http://www.cheatsheet.com/business/high-on-the-hog-the-top-8-corporate-welfare-recipients.html/?a=viewall

Personally, I don't have a problem with auto and tech industry handouts because most countries do this and would be a a more level playing field if we did. I do have a problem with the fat cats and their government slaves going after the poor so they don't have to pay their share. The list should show how big oil is the biggest corp. welfare queens when all is added up. I also would not give one penny to anyone, like Nike, who has the majority of their workforce overseas.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
6. It is legislative masturbation.
Thu May 14, 2015, 08:11 PM
May 2015

It allows them to get all worked up, make fierce faces, proclaim their superiority over powerless people loudly, and feel good, without having much real effect on other people.

So remember the next time you are photographed looking poor and miserable, someday some republican will use that picture as inspiration.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
14. Poor people have a hard time fighting back, so this is legislative bullying......by devout Christians.
Thu May 14, 2015, 08:53 PM
May 2015

The sad part is that the most effective weapon poor folks have, their vote, is also their most rusty.

 

RiverNoord

(1,150 posts)
9. Is some wacko getting all Biblical
Thu May 14, 2015, 08:40 PM
May 2015

over the federal government subsidizing the consuming of foods that are an 'abomination' to God? It's the only damn thing I can imagine that's about...

The war on the poor - it's the gift that keeps on giving... The more you chip away at human dignity and moral values such as helping people when they're down, the more poor there are, which enables you to take another crack at them, and...

Ugh. Rotten bastards.

leftieNanner

(15,059 posts)
15. The Shellfish thing isn't about abominations
Thu May 14, 2015, 08:57 PM
May 2015

I think it's perceived to be an "exotic" or "expensive" food so poor people shouldn't be able to waste their food stamps on such things.

Stupid.

gvstn

(2,805 posts)
22. Exactly.
Thu May 14, 2015, 10:20 PM
May 2015

They believe that you shouldn't have anything that tastes good. Ridiculous part is hamburger is close to $6 a pound and shrimp goes on sale for $7. They are just mean spirited terrible people.

If someone getting all of $117 a month wants to eat a smaller serving of rice and beans for 4 nights a week so they can splurge on a Snickers bar--I say God Bless them.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
13. First Lady asking folks to eat better, bad; government forcing folks to eat better, good...the GOP
Thu May 14, 2015, 08:51 PM
May 2015

hypocrisy is as limitless as Fox lies.

 

RiverNoord

(1,150 posts)
32. I'd like to think so, but...
Fri May 15, 2015, 04:16 PM
May 2015

I think this is only beginning. Dehumanizing poor Americans is just another step on the path to corporate hegemony...

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
20. Wait a minute - aren't these the same folks
Thu May 14, 2015, 10:02 PM
May 2015

who want to get the gubmint out of our lives? The ones who rail against the "nanny state?"

"We as a country are spending a fortune on health care costs for largely preventable diseases, and a lot of that relates to our habits as people -- we’re consuming the wrong foods," state Rep. Scott Allen, one of the SNAP bill's Republican cosponsors, said in an interview. "

 

RiverNoord

(1,150 posts)
34. Sounds to me as though he's advocating for
Fri May 15, 2015, 05:19 PM
May 2015

a vast expansion of the FDA, banning of soda/pop, limiting the sales of candy and most potato/tortilla chips to very small portions, outlawing red meat, a full ban on cigarettes (not food, but certainly part of the 'fortune' that he mentions being spent), heavy regulation of what restaurants may and may not serve, etc.

Huh - is he a socialist?

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
23. Walker's strategy
Thu May 14, 2015, 10:27 PM
May 2015

He is trying his damnedest to keep his million dollar Koch-loafers out of his mouth in order to keep from drawing the negative press the other Republicans are drawing.

At the same time he has cultivated conservative nasty cred by busting on unions and shredding the safety net while using typical republican policy decisions.

All the while he hopes the mainstream media will continue to play the 'horse-race' game and refuse to do any serious hard journalism on just how awful republican economic policy has damaged Wisconsin recover. If they do manage it he will probably try to blame Obama somehow.


This idiot governor of my neighbors to the immediate east (Happy Minnesotan here!) could actually manage to win the nomination. If he does we need someone that will challenge him hard with progressive, populist economics! I know who I am supporting and who has the best shot of putting progressive liberal economics on the table!

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
26. Based on the headline, I came in to see the answer to one burning question...
Fri May 15, 2015, 07:27 AM
May 2015

Does the bill say 'standing up' or 'sitting down'?

mindem

(1,580 posts)
27. So now the repukes have gone
Fri May 15, 2015, 08:07 AM
May 2015

beyond "let them eat cake" to "stop them from eating cake".

About those cranberries on the list of approved foods, the November 26th, 2014 La Crosse Tribune reported "Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack announced Monday that USDA will purchase of up to 68 million pounds, or 680,000 barrels, of surplus cranberries. His action came just five days after U.S. Reps. Ron Kind, D-La Crosse, and Sean Duffy, R-Weston, signed a letter requesting the purchase. The letter said increased production has driven cranberry prices to their lowest levels in 15 years.

“There is broad consensus that additional actions by USDA are needed to help address crop inventories and supply, which continue to vastly exceed the rate of growth in sales,” the letter reads, That is a 55 million dollar subsidy to the Wisconsin cranberry industry to prop up prices. Cranberry country in Wisconsin is repuke country
.

cpamomfromtexas

(1,245 posts)
28. Unemployment is INSURANCE! Now if they drug test every home burning or car accident claimant...
Fri May 15, 2015, 08:13 AM
May 2015

This is a lawsuit in the making, anxious to watch.

 

RiverNoord

(1,150 posts)
35. The drug test requirement is sickening.
Fri May 15, 2015, 05:22 PM
May 2015

It's also unconstitutional in oh so many ways.

Would these same idiots advocate for a drug test requirement for, say, a drivers license, where it might actually make sense? Or a concealed carry permit? Not a chance, since that would actually affect them...

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