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NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
Tue May 26, 2015, 01:28 PM May 2015

Sanders launches 2016 presidential campaign from Clinton's left

Source: Associated Press via ReadingEagle.com

[font size=6]Sanders launches 2016 presidential campaign from Clinton's left[/font size]



The Associated Press Tuesday May 26, 2015 11:00 AM

BURLINGTON, Vt. — Challenging Hillary Rodham Clinton from the left, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders formally launched his Democratic presidential campaign on Tuesday by vowing to start a "political revolution" to address core economic issues, massive student debt and the role of big money in politics.

Already in the race for the Democratic presidential nomination, Sanders was opening his campaign with a kickoff event — complete with free Ben & Jerry's ice cream — in Burlington, the place where he won his first election by beating a longtime incumbent Democrat by 10 votes to become mayor.

"I know what I believe," Sanders said in a fundraising email hours before his launch that pushed back against "the billionaire class" trying to buy the election. "That's why today marks the beginning of our political revolution."

Sanders, a self-described "democratic socialist," is trying to ignite a grassroots fire among left-leaning Democrats wary of Clinton — a group that pined for months for Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren to get in to race. Some still do.
- See more at: http://readingeagle.com/news/article/sanders-launches-2016-presidential-campaign-from-clintons-left#sthash.ck11IL0v.dpuf

Read more: http://readingeagle.com/news/article/sanders-launches-2016-presidential-campaign-from-clintons-left



Here we go, baby!

Watch his video at 5:00pm Eastern:



https://berniesanders.com/news/bernies-announcement/

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Sanders launches 2016 presidential campaign from Clinton's left (Original Post) NYC_SKP May 2015 OP
The "revolution" will take time and lots of people... polichick May 2015 #1
K&R for Bernie n/t bobthedrummer May 2015 #2
K&R for Bernie! peacebird May 2015 #3
Why does this read like it was pre-written from a Press Release? brooklynite May 2015 #4
It's no longer happening "this evening", it's in just 30 minutes. SoapBox May 2015 #23
Anyone object to leading with 'from Clinton's left?' elleng May 2015 #5
It's the definining feature of his campaign, so I'd say it's accurate and reasonable. [n/t] Maedhros May 2015 #7
It may be accurate, elleng May 2015 #9
Why is it unreasonable to state a fact in a headline? [n/t] Maedhros May 2015 #10
I think it's editorializing in a headline, elleng May 2015 #12
I agree too LiberalLovinLug May 2015 #30
It's not. Scootaloo May 2015 #51
Exactly. cui bono May 2015 #52
I agree. The less "leading" we do is the best. Leave that to the other candidates. erronis May 2015 #16
Yes, I agree, elleng May 2015 #17
Actually, I didn't look for that headline deliberately. First I got a text message about the launch NYC_SKP May 2015 #11
Capisco, SKP! elleng May 2015 #13
Though true, Bernie is square in the center of the country - a fact they don' want people to realize grahamhgreen May 2015 #18
No, only liberals like his policies Mnpaul May 2015 #39
Fair point, that's a wide open space. Jester Messiah May 2015 #19
Political Revolution…. blm May 2015 #6
Hip hip hurrah! JEB May 2015 #8
A whole lot of people in this country LuvNewcastle May 2015 #14
1,000 K&R swilton May 2015 #15
The media can't mention Bernie without mentioning Clinton. Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #20
That's true of the media, and it's an insult to Bernie Sanders. NYC_SKP May 2015 #27
Naturally. Conflict is their #1 product n/t arcane1 May 2015 #35
Jon Stewart exposed that. It got "Crossfire" cancelled. Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #38
K & R !!! WillyT May 2015 #21
K/R Jack Rabbit May 2015 #22
30 minutes and counting down! SoapBox May 2015 #24
Bernie silenttigersong May 2015 #25
K&R red dog 1 May 2015 #26
He is running as a Democrat. kenfrequed May 2015 #29
"If you disagree with him on his policies I wish you would just say so"?? red dog 1 May 2015 #36
I apologize. kenfrequed May 2015 #37
I disagree with the headline kenfrequed May 2015 #28
I do too, but LBN rules require posting the actual title as it appears in the article. NYC_SKP May 2015 #32
True! kenfrequed May 2015 #33
I voted! CANDO May 2015 #31
Bernie Sanders is behind in the polls against every republican running bigdarryl May 2015 #34
So what is your point? Seriously, what is your point? nm rhett o rick May 2015 #49
The point is if he gets out of the primary he doesn't matchup well with bigdarryl May 2015 #54
The only way he will win the primary is that he will have millions of supporters that rhett o rick May 2015 #57
Very happy he's in - and running as a dem - so we don't have another Naderesque "loss" n/t JudyM May 2015 #40
Reality check: "Several leading Vermont Democrats were notably absent"... DCBob May 2015 #41
Awesome workinclasszero May 2015 #43
They do that until they don't. Like Donna Brazile in 2007-2008. nt NYC_SKP May 2015 #44
I trust Howard Dean's judgement on this. DCBob May 2015 #45
Thank you Barnie Sanders. Stay the course. Demand Party support. PufPuf23 May 2015 #42
Bernie's the one. n/t Judi Lynn May 2015 #46
Well... sheshe2 May 2015 #47
If you like Hillary Clinton on Social Issues, you'll Love Sanders! NYC_SKP May 2015 #48
Skp. sheshe2 May 2015 #50
We agree. NYC_SKP May 2015 #56
Here's a link to a great rant about women's rights: cui bono May 2015 #53
"Clinton's left" includes the middle and a chunk of the right. Sheeeeze. Scuba May 2015 #55

brooklynite

(94,384 posts)
4. Why does this read like it was pre-written from a Press Release?
Tue May 26, 2015, 01:49 PM
May 2015

The announcement isn't until this evening.

elleng

(130,773 posts)
5. Anyone object to leading with 'from Clinton's left?'
Tue May 26, 2015, 01:56 PM
May 2015

How about 'Sanders launches Presidential campaign,' and letting the facts speak for themselves???

elleng

(130,773 posts)
9. It may be accurate,
Tue May 26, 2015, 02:40 PM
May 2015

I'm not sure its the defining feature of his campaign. 'Reasonable,' imo, would be to let we the people decide. Glad to hear your thoughts, Maedhros.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,165 posts)
30. I agree too
Tue May 26, 2015, 05:24 PM
May 2015

They seem to pounce on any opportunity to use the word "left" at every opportunity. This after decades of demonizing the word into the American consciousness, along with "liberal" and "socialist". When in fact Sanders is probably closer to an FDR Democrat, what used to be described as a moderate Democrat. It is more accurate to say Hillary will be fighting Bernie "from the right".

How many times have you heard a Republican candidate running against another candidate "from the right"? Maybe because they are all so far right already but you never hear for instance, Ted Cruz will enter the race "from Jeb's right".

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
51. It's not.
Wed May 27, 2015, 01:31 AM
May 2015

sanders is to the left of Clinton. That's just a plain political fact, sort of like how Clinton is to the left of say, Feinstein. and all three are to the left of Cruz.

Alignment on the political spectrum is a notable fact, not an editorial opinion

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
52. Exactly.
Wed May 27, 2015, 03:26 AM
May 2015

And if a fact is taken as an insult, then whoever is insulted should take a look at why that is.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
11. Actually, I didn't look for that headline deliberately. First I got a text message about the launch
Tue May 26, 2015, 02:46 PM
May 2015

Then I checked LBN for an earlier post, found nothing.

Then I did a Google search for fresh news related to it, and this is was the first thing (at the time) to grab with the freshest posting time and an AP sticker.

I would prefer it had not had that additional editorial element but LBN rules require verbatim headline use.



 

grahamhgreen

(15,741 posts)
18. Though true, Bernie is square in the center of the country - a fact they don' want people to realize
Tue May 26, 2015, 03:17 PM
May 2015

Mnpaul

(3,655 posts)
39. No, only liberals like his policies
Tue May 26, 2015, 08:02 PM
May 2015

From the article:

Sanders' disdain for big money in politics is also shared by liberals.

I would like to see how many Americans share that disdain.

 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
19. Fair point, that's a wide open space.
Tue May 26, 2015, 03:51 PM
May 2015

That's like saying "from his campaign headquarters in the United States."

blm

(113,019 posts)
6. Political Revolution….
Tue May 26, 2015, 02:27 PM
May 2015

"...vowing to start a "political revolution" to address core economic issues, massive student debt and the role of big money in politics."

The REAL Deal, unlike the RandPaulPollution.

LuvNewcastle

(16,838 posts)
14. A whole lot of people in this country
Tue May 26, 2015, 02:54 PM
May 2015

want to express themselves and speak out about where we're headed as a nation. I think this campaign could provide an avenue for people to work at and feel like they're doing something positive to change the horrible future we have waiting for us. If we can get the campaign off the ground, I think it will draw in all kinds of people.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
27. That's true of the media, and it's an insult to Bernie Sanders.
Tue May 26, 2015, 04:59 PM
May 2015

And he keeps it classy when they keep needling him for comments.

Last week he said, "I don't know, I don't work for her."

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
29. He is running as a Democrat.
Tue May 26, 2015, 05:09 PM
May 2015

He caucuses with Democrats and is running for the Democratic endorsement. If you disagree with him on his policies I wish you would just say so.

red dog 1

(27,783 posts)
36. "If you disagree with him on his policies I wish you would just say so"??
Tue May 26, 2015, 07:00 PM
May 2015

As a matter of fact, I AGREE with him "on his policies"......ALL of them...I fully support him!
and you're right, "he caucuses with Democrats"
However, how can an INDEPENDENT run for the DEMOCRATIC nomination?
That's all I asked.
There's no need fro you to get nasty.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
37. I apologize.
Tue May 26, 2015, 07:05 PM
May 2015

I have been seeing that line used way too often by detractors and people overly enthusiastic about supporters of another candidate. I apologize for getting defensive about it. It was wrong of me.

Personally, I have always liked Bernie's scrappy independence and how he could make the principled stand from the left. I always saw it as a positive.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
28. I disagree with the headline
Tue May 26, 2015, 05:00 PM
May 2015

I don't like it when the media frames this race as any particular candidates "Hillary's left" etc.

I am a strong Bernie Sanders supporter and putting it in these terms suggests he is a spoiler or projects the idea that she is moderate.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
32. I do too, but LBN rules require posting the actual title as it appears in the article.
Tue May 26, 2015, 05:47 PM
May 2015

He's his own candidate, he's plenty!

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
33. True!
Tue May 26, 2015, 05:59 PM
May 2015

I just disagree with the headline from the news story itself, I totally get that those are the rules.

The media in this country likes to make this a horse-race and a lot of the various outlets don't like getting too bogged down in horrible things like 'policy issues.' Personally I blame the owners and editors.

 

CANDO

(2,068 posts)
31. I voted!
Tue May 26, 2015, 05:37 PM
May 2015

With my wallet! Gave a $5 contribution online, and more to come. So go Bernie! Anyone who can afford $5 bucks, go to his website and vote with your wallet!

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
57. The only way he will win the primary is that he will have millions of supporters that
Wed May 27, 2015, 09:59 AM
May 2015

will take him to the presidency. If the American people can resist the billions of dollars the billionaires will throw at the race to elect HRC, I think they can resist the lies of the Republicons. Right now it looks like HRC is the candidate of choice for the Plutocrats.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
41. Reality check: "Several leading Vermont Democrats were notably absent"...
Tue May 26, 2015, 09:39 PM
May 2015

"including Sen. Patrick Leahy, Gov. Peter Shumlin and former Gov. Howard Dean, all of whom are supporting Clinton."

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
45. I trust Howard Dean's judgement on this.
Tue May 26, 2015, 10:13 PM
May 2015

Surely he knows Bernie very well and if Howard backs Hillary then that's good enough for me.

PufPuf23

(8,756 posts)
42. Thank you Barnie Sanders. Stay the course. Demand Party support.
Tue May 26, 2015, 09:47 PM
May 2015

We need a like-minded VP candidate, hopefully ASAP.

Why?

Bernie Sanders is likely too old for two terms.

A like-minded VP ASAP would could share the burden of this campaign.

A Bernie Sanders entering office in January 2017 would be more physically able for "good presidenting" sworn into office well-rested.

Common Bernie, I don't have that many election cycles left myself.

sheshe2

(83,669 posts)
47. Well...
Tue May 26, 2015, 11:34 PM
May 2015
Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders formally launched his Democratic presidential campaign on Tuesday by vowing to start a "political revolution" to address core economic issues, massive student debt and the role of big money in politics.


I know he is only starting out here, yet where is he on social justice? He speaks only of economic justice here. The two go hand in hand or we have nothing. One is not good without the other. I want a revolution that includes social justice. I do not believe in trickle down justice, nor should Bernie.
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
48. If you like Hillary Clinton on Social Issues, you'll Love Sanders!
Tue May 26, 2015, 11:52 PM
May 2015
Bernie Sanders on the issues:

Voted YES on reauthorizing the Violence Against Women Act. (Feb 2013)
Voted NO on Constitutionally defining marriage as one-man-one-woman. (Jul 2006)
Voted NO on making the PATRIOT Act permanent. (Dec 2005)
Voted NO on Constitutional Amendment banning same-sex marriage. (Sep 2004)
Voted NO on protecting the Pledge of Allegiance. (Sep 2004)
Voted NO on constitutional amendment prohibiting flag desecration. (Jun 2003)
Voted NO on banning gay adoptions in DC. (Jul 1999)
Voted NO on ending preferential treatment by race in college admissions. (May 1998)

Rated 100% by NARAL, indicating a pro-choice voting record:
Rated 100% by the HRC, indicating a pro-gay-rights stance. (Dec 2006)
Rated 97% by the NAACP, indicating a pro-affirmative-action stance. (Dec 2006)
Rated 93% by the ACLU, indicating a pro-civil rights voting record. (Dec 2002)
Recognize Juneteenth as historical end of slavery. (Jun 2008)

ENDA: prohibit employment discrimination for gays. (Jun 2009)
Prohibit sexual-identity discrimination at schools. (Mar 2011)
Endorsed as "preferred" by The Feminist Majority indicating pro-women's rights. (Aug 2012)
Enforce against wage discrimination based on gender. (Jan 2013)
Enforce against anti-gay discrimination in public schools. (Jun 2013)
Re-introduce the Equal Rights Amendment. (Mar 2007)
Constitutional Amendment for equal rights by gender. (Mar 2001)

http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/bernie_sanders.htm#Civil_Rights


Senator Sanders compared to Secretary Clinton:


Sanders:

Rated 93% by the ACLU, indicating a pro-civil rights voting record. (Dec 2002)
Rated 100% by the HRC, indicating a pro-gay-rights stance. (Dec 2006)
Rated 97% by the NAACP, indicating a pro-affirmative-action stance. (Dec 2006)

Clinton:

Rated 60% by the ACLU, indicating a mixed civil rights voting record. (Dec 2002)
Rated 89% by the HRC, indicating a pro-gay-rights stance. (Dec 2006)
Rated 96% by the NAACP, indicating a pro-affirmative-action stance. (Dec 2006)

http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/bernie_sanders.htm
http://www.ontheissues.org/Hillary_Clinton.htm


sheshe2

(83,669 posts)
50. Skp.
Wed May 27, 2015, 01:21 AM
May 2015

I like you a lot, you have been a friend here. Please do not keep throwing that link at me.

This is not just about two candidates. This is about social justice. A vote by a candidate is not good enough for me. I want to see passion for the rights of PoC not to be shot in the back. I want to see them rail over a woman being sent to jail for a miscarriage.

Conservative Mississippi Seeks To Toss Women In Prison For Miscarriages

Women who miscarry a pregnancy could face imprisonment if Mississippi has its way. The state Supreme Court is set to rule on whether or not the state can arrest women for delivering a stillborn or losing a pregnancy any time throughout the nine-month period of time a fetus is developing.

According to Mother Jones, the current case involves a woman named Nina Buckhalter, who was arrested in 2009 for giving birth to a stillborn baby. Devastated, Nina named the baby Hayley and was arrested two months later for manslaughter. The grand jury found that the 29-year-old woman “willfully, unlawfully, feloniously” killed “a human being by culpable negligence” because she had a trace amount of methamphetamines in her system.

If the state Supreme Court rules that Nina can be prosecuted for having a stillbirth, it opens the door for Mississippi to charge any woman who has a miscarriage for murder. Mississippi is the one conservative state at the epicenter of the war against abortion. Anti-abortion activists and politicians have made effort upon effort to define a fetus as a human being so they can charge women who have abortions with murder, therefore making abortion illegal.

snip

Last time I checked, inconclusive evidence does not land people in prison and we certainly should not jail women who lose pregnancies through no fault of their own. Miscarriages and stillbirths happen naturally all the time. We shouldn’t punish women for losing pregnancies. That’s the kind of thing that belongs in the Middle Ages, not 21st century America.

Read More http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/05/23/conservative-controlled-mississippi-seeks-to-toss-women-in-prison-for-miscarriages/

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
56. We agree.
Wed May 27, 2015, 09:45 AM
May 2015

I'm sorry that yesterday I was kind of piled on with work to be done, last minute stuff.

Of course you're right, we are barely treading water on these social matters even as we lose our grip on other matters like fair trade, minimum pay, etc.

I hope that cui bono's examples are something that represent passion for women and women's rights, and I'm sorry that I couldn't find these to post myself.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
53. Here's a link to a great rant about women's rights:
Wed May 27, 2015, 03:39 AM
May 2015


http://www.democraticunderground.com/12803170


And here's an OP about him fighting for civil rights:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026614874


There was an OP about him fighting for LGBT rights as well, don't have a link for it but I think it was posted around May 3 as well.


Bernie has been and is currently fighting for the people on ALL fronts. I don't know where this idea started that he is weak on social rights, he is anything but that. He's always spoken out for and tried to legislate for social justice. He's the whole package.
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