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Omaha Steve

(99,556 posts)
Sun May 31, 2015, 08:17 AM May 2015

Jeb Bush says Rand Paul 'wrong' on ending surveillance laws

Source: AP

By ERIK SCHELZIG

NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) — Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush said Saturday that Republican presidential candidate Rand Paul is "wrong" on his efforts to end post-Sept. 11 surveillance laws used against suspected spies and terrorists.

Bush, a likely GOP presidential candidate in 2016, called for the reauthorization of the Patriot Act enacted under the presidency of his brother George W. Bush.

"What I admire most about my brother was he kept us safe," Jeb Bush said at a Tennessee Republican Party fundraiser. "And I believe people will respect him for a long time because of that."

Without action by midnight Sunday, a number of tools that permit law enforcement to pursue and investigate suspected terrorists will expire. Paul, a senator from Kentucky, has said he will use his right to delay a final vote and let the powers lapse once midnight arrives.

FULL story at link.



Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush speaks at a Tennessee Republican Party fundraiser in Nashville, Tenn., on Saturday, May 30, 2015. (AP Photo/Erik Schelzig)

Read more: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/78a9b72520f048cb815d66000ac282f1/jeb-bush-says-rand-paul-wrong-ending-surveillance-laws

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Jeb Bush says Rand Paul 'wrong' on ending surveillance laws (Original Post) Omaha Steve May 2015 OP
"What I admire most about my brother was he kept us safe..." Bryce Butler May 2015 #1
and the over 5000 US Military KIA marym625 May 2015 #3
And the anthrax incidents that followed 9/11 bulloney May 2015 #4
...... trusty elf May 2015 #5
Oh, don't forget the 4000 who died in Iraq. lark May 2015 #17
He kept us safe??!! marym625 May 2015 #2
Hmmm... sounds like he's earned the Fucking Used Car Salesman Award of the day. calimary Jun 2015 #19
+1 marym625 Jun 2015 #20
No, your twit brother did not keep us safe. roamer65 May 2015 #6
I rarely agree with anything Rand Paul does, GGJohn May 2015 #7
Thank you for your interest in the open position, Mr. Bush Jack Rabbit May 2015 #8
Of course the scion of the National Security State would say this. The_Commonist May 2015 #9
This is what you get when remove yourself from the rest of the world.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #10
I'd pay to see that one! imthevicar Jun 2015 #18
Did his top Middle East advisor (Shrub) tell him this? bullwinkle428 May 2015 #11
Every time he(Bush) opens his mouth, SmittynMo May 2015 #12
like Giuliani he's literally forgotten about 9-11 (let alone the OBL "bluff" memo) MisterP May 2015 #13
One of the very few things in the world that Rand Paul is NOT wrong about! LeftishBrit May 2015 #14
"My brother kept us safe." Yeppers, sure, Jeb. Uh-huh,yeah, he did...... lastlib May 2015 #15
So fucking sick of all the Repugs, and that's truly just about all of them, lark May 2015 #16
Were these laws ever used against a terrorist or spy? sofa king Jun 2015 #21

bulloney

(4,113 posts)
4. And the anthrax incidents that followed 9/11
Sun May 31, 2015, 08:53 AM
May 2015

Keep repeating a lie and eventually at least some of the people will believe it. That's how the Republicans and their enabling media work.

lark

(23,078 posts)
17. Oh, don't forget the 4000 who died in Iraq.
Sun May 31, 2015, 04:56 PM
May 2015

Also the Americans who died in Afghanistan. Guess those don't count to the Bushes.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
2. He kept us safe??!!
Sun May 31, 2015, 08:34 AM
May 2015

What in the Holy fuck country is he living in? Us who?

Going to post one more take action on the Patriot Act in a bit

K&R!

calimary

(81,179 posts)
19. Hmmm... sounds like he's earned the Fucking Used Car Salesman Award of the day.
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 12:41 AM
Jun 2015

"He kept us safe." DERP. Um... do you mind if we check with the Jersey Girls (the 9/11 widows and their fellows) on that?

That must have been an incomplete - jebbie forgot the last two words in that slogan: "He kept us safe - My Ass."

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
7. I rarely agree with anything Rand Paul does,
Sun May 31, 2015, 10:04 AM
May 2015

but in this instance, I'm in full agreement with him and hope he succeeds in killing this unconstitutional POS law.
Oh, and BTW, FUCK YOU JEB BUSH!!!!

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
8. Thank you for your interest in the open position, Mr. Bush
Sun May 31, 2015, 10:48 AM
May 2015

We'll make a decision later. Please don't call us. We'll call you.

The_Commonist

(2,518 posts)
9. Of course the scion of the National Security State would say this.
Sun May 31, 2015, 10:53 AM
May 2015

The Bush family profits greatly from selling the tools for national security. So of course he's going to say that ending "post-Sept. 11 surveillance laws used against suspected spies and terrorists" is wrong. And he'll use it to swipe at one of his opponents.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
10. This is what you get when remove yourself from the rest of the world....
Sun May 31, 2015, 11:26 AM
May 2015

I pictured a SNL sketch of a Bush Family get together where it turns out they have another brother hidden in the attic that they describe as "weird and insane". They go on about him for some time like he's a total freak and how it will bring shame upon the family if anyone ever finds out about him. You then hear he's loose. Everyone is in a panic to find him before anyone sees him. The brother is then seen coming down the stairs,...played by Tommy Chong,....who then rips them all apart for all the crimes they've done and the lies before the servants shoot him with a tranquilizer dart and take him back up to his room in the attic.

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
12. Every time he(Bush) opens his mouth,
Sun May 31, 2015, 12:06 PM
May 2015

You see his polling numbers go down. What an idiot. The acorn don't fall far from the tree here. Two acorns, both dumb as a box of rocks. He won't make it past the first round. And of he does, so what.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
13. like Giuliani he's literally forgotten about 9-11 (let alone the OBL "bluff" memo)
Sun May 31, 2015, 01:40 PM
May 2015

"Never forget" was aimed at themselves

lastlib

(23,191 posts)
15. "My brother kept us safe." Yeppers, sure, Jeb. Uh-huh,yeah, he did......
Sun May 31, 2015, 03:34 PM
May 2015

I guess this happened under somebody else:



If this is Jebbie's idea of "safe", I don't want him any-f*cking-where NEAR the White House or any other place of power!

lark

(23,078 posts)
16. So fucking sick of all the Repugs, and that's truly just about all of them,
Sun May 31, 2015, 04:53 PM
May 2015

who ignore 9/11 and try to pretend it didn't happen under GW. They try to pretend that GW's (Cheney's?) negligence caused this. He was warned and totally ignored it, on purpose? Funny, his attorney general was flying in private planes because of the threat of commercial airlines being bombed by Islamists, and said they had credible evidence of this threat to plane travel. Yet, GW had a rule passed within a month of taking office that no Saudi Arabian would be screened for terrorism or kept out of the US, even if they were on a terrorist watch list. He als0 completely ignored a report that stated that BinLaden was looking to have a big terrorist incident here. Funny how Cheney told Afghanistan they'd see their country covered in gold if they signed the deal with oil companies to build a huge pipeline or if they didn't it would be carpeted in blood.

Sorry Jeb, your lies don't fly. We know this is being done to control us, to spy on us, not to stop any terrorist threat. It's just another gift to the MIC, including Carlyle that's partially owned by your dad, and another illegal way to hurt anyone not part of the 1%.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
21. Were these laws ever used against a terrorist or spy?
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 09:05 AM
Jun 2015

Did they ever once result in a terrorism conviction?

I know they put about two million American citizens in jail, primarily for nonviolent drug offenses.

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