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jpak

(41,756 posts)
Fri May 4, 2012, 03:30 PM May 2012

Oil prices plunge after long run-up

Source: CNN

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- Oil prices have plunged this week, erasing the gains of recent months and dissipating fears of $5-per-gallon gas ... at least for now.

The price of U.S. crude oil slipped beneath $100 per barrel on Friday, dropping about 4% from Thursday, to settle at $98.49.

Oil prices are usually a predictor of gasoline prices, which typically mimic the fluctuations in oil, although sometimes not until days or weeks later.

In reaction to dropping oil prices, gas prices have dropped about 6.5% over the last week, reaching a national average of $3.802 a gallon on Friday, according to the motorist group AAA.

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Read more: http://money.cnn.com/2012/05/04/markets/oil-prices/



So, are the Repigs gonna get down on their knees and thank Obama for reducing gas prices?

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Oil prices plunge after long run-up (Original Post) jpak May 2012 OP
So, who beats the war drums next week ? may3rd May 2012 #1
Recession in the UK and Spain will probably have more to do with gas prices than war scares jpak May 2012 #2
Let me know when people see a gallon of gas for $3.50/gal and post links to where it can be bought may3rd May 2012 #16
bought regular for $3.55/gal yesterday justabob May 2012 #22
Wholesale prices are now $2.97 a gallon = gas is now $3.699 in my neck'o jpak May 2012 #24
It's on track to go below $3.50 by the 4th of July nationwide jpak May 2012 #25
I'm still trying to figure out how DenverDad May 2012 #3
I was wondering the same thing. I'm still baffled, too. BlueCaliDem May 2012 #4
The same guy who presided over America's first DenverDad May 2012 #9
don't forget ... the first President in a LOOOOONNNNNNNGGGGG time to zbdent May 2012 #15
The DOW was -8000 under Bush, correct? Under Obama, consistently 13,000 + BlueCaliDem May 2012 #23
Because $104/gallon is the WTI price, which is increasingly irrelevent NickB79 May 2012 #5
Thanks for the link! DenverDad May 2012 #8
I am no expert but I say Big Oil's profit margins are the factor here. mwooldri May 2012 #11
Oh goody, falling oil demand indicates another recession on the horizon. nt NickB79 May 2012 #6
Get real kiddies Wellstone ruled May 2012 #7
Better put the Fox and Friends on a suicide watch! JoePhilly May 2012 #10
A Plunge? castnet55 May 2012 #12
Read this good one from a CNBC link, they are falling. sarcasmo May 2012 #13
I claim Full Credit, I traded in my Dodge Dakota for a Chevy Cruze Eco happyslug May 2012 #14
Ha Obama threatened to regulate the traders... . .I notice CNN doesn't mention it. Reuters did. CenaW May 2012 #17
Price fall is due to bleak Euro and US economic/employment data. Psephos May 2012 #19
And soon... due to electric/hybrid cars' record sales numbers... Amonester May 2012 #20
and they still haven't hit the Bush high of $4.11 national average of July 2008. Imagine that. n/t progressivebydesign May 2012 #18
Yesterday Gas Prices Spiked By 16 Cents A Gallon DallasNE May 2012 #21
Blame the new pipeline happyslug May 2012 #26

jpak

(41,756 posts)
2. Recession in the UK and Spain will probably have more to do with gas prices than war scares
Fri May 4, 2012, 03:45 PM
May 2012

That and real demand destruction in the US in response to high gas prices.

yup

 

may3rd

(593 posts)
16. Let me know when people see a gallon of gas for $3.50/gal and post links to where it can be bought
Fri May 4, 2012, 10:42 PM
May 2012

THEN I'll believe the fall in prices

justabob

(3,069 posts)
22. bought regular for $3.55/gal yesterday
Sat May 5, 2012, 02:22 AM
May 2012

RaceTrac... no link except to the corporate page
5151 Lemmon Avenue
Dallas, TX 75209

on edit: I suspect in the next couple of days it'll get down five more cents.

jpak

(41,756 posts)
24. Wholesale prices are now $2.97 a gallon = gas is now $3.699 in my neck'o
Sun May 6, 2012, 09:20 AM
May 2012

don't hold your breath.

yup

DenverDad

(353 posts)
3. I'm still trying to figure out how
Fri May 4, 2012, 04:04 PM
May 2012

in 2008 $140.00/barrel oil = $4.00/gallon of gasoline

BUT

in 2012 $104.00/barrel oil = $4.00/gallon of gasoline?

DenverDad

(353 posts)
9. The same guy who presided over America's first
Fri May 4, 2012, 06:53 PM
May 2012

$1.50 gallon of gas
$2.00 gallon of gas
$3.00 gallon of gas
AND
$4.00 gallon of gas.

zbdent

(35,392 posts)
15. don't forget ... the first President in a LOOOOONNNNNNNGGGGG time to
Fri May 4, 2012, 10:40 PM
May 2012

leave the White House with the Dow lower than when he entered ...

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
23. The DOW was -8000 under Bush, correct? Under Obama, consistently 13,000 +
Sat May 5, 2012, 12:12 PM
May 2012

Romney and the Republicans shouldn't stand a chance, but I'll never overestimate the low IQ of a segment of the American electorate enough. These folks, and American corporations, should be ha-ha-HAPPY we still have the electoral college and the two-Senators-a-state-no-matter-how-big-the-state's-populace. They'd otherwise be relegated to annals of American history as another failed political party.

NickB79

(19,224 posts)
5. Because $104/gallon is the WTI price, which is increasingly irrelevent
Fri May 4, 2012, 04:20 PM
May 2012

The West Texas Intermediate benchmark oil price has been commanding a smaller and smaller share of the market. The true numbers you should be looking at are the Brent crude benchmark, which has been running quite a bit higher in recent months than WTI.

This might help explain some of the differences in global oil pricing standards: http://www.energyandcapital.com/resources/brent-vs-wti

mwooldri

(10,301 posts)
11. I am no expert but I say Big Oil's profit margins are the factor here.
Fri May 4, 2012, 07:48 PM
May 2012

There's 42 gallons of crude oil in a barrel.

In 2008 the per gallon cost of crude is $3.33.
Now in 2012 the per gallon cost of crude is $2.47.

But then there's different types of crude oil, which need to be refined differently. And these crude oil prices have their own prices depending on their quality.

Federal and State gas taxes play into this too but again it's not the only factor. (e.g. NC gas tax is higher than VA gas tax by 19 cents but the cost of gas around Greensboro NC is about the same as gas in Richmond, VA).

But I stated Big Oil's profit margins are the factor here. The big oil companies are making record profits. That's got to drive up gas prices to a certain extent too.

There's a lot of pieces of the puzzle that make up the cost of a gallon of gasoline. Crude oil price alone on one index on the stock market is only an indicator and a part, but not the whole picture.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
7. Get real kiddies
Fri May 4, 2012, 04:36 PM
May 2012


we don't have any say as to the retail price. (1) swipe fees are 7-9 cents per gallon,(2)Goldman-Sachs holds the patents on the gas pump pricing. GS sets the price,no suprise.
 

castnet55

(62 posts)
12. A Plunge?
Fri May 4, 2012, 09:51 PM
May 2012

How is a lousy 4% considered a friggin plunge in oil prices. We I see 10% or better that'll be a plunge.

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
14. I claim Full Credit, I traded in my Dodge Dakota for a Chevy Cruze Eco
Fri May 4, 2012, 10:24 PM
May 2012

I went from 17 miles per gallon to a car getting 44 mpg.

GM says the Cruze can get 42 mpg, but by be careful I have it up to 44 mpg. That is a lot better then 17-18 mpg I was getting from my Dakota. Thus I have cut my fuel consumption by a third. Thus I claim full credit for the drop in demand and the drop in price.

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
20. And soon... due to electric/hybrid cars' record sales numbers...
Sat May 5, 2012, 12:41 AM
May 2012

that will teach many GD speculator$ a lesson they won't forget!

:hoping:

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
21. Yesterday Gas Prices Spiked By 16 Cents A Gallon
Sat May 5, 2012, 01:29 AM
May 2012

Here in Omaha, which is a 4.7% increase. Today they shed 2 cents of that increase. All of the stations change in lockstep.

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
26. Blame the new pipeline
Sun May 6, 2012, 01:14 PM
May 2012

Nebraska is at the edge of that part of the US getting oil from Alberta Canada. Do to the lack of pipelines from Alberta to the rest of Canada and the US, you had a "captive" oil situation, more oil then could be used OR shipped out, thus prices stayed low.

This has been expected to change, not only when the new pipeline goes through BUT the reversal of another pipeline from Texas to Nebraska, to a pipeline shipping oil from Nebraska to Texas (This change as to the older pipeline was expected about now).

That change (More the reversal of the old pipeline then the construction of the new pipeline) would end the oil surplus in that part of North America, with local gasoline prices going up to the National average. Prior to that switch in direction of the one pipeline, the area was producing more oil then it could USE or SHIP OUT. With the reversal of that pipeline, more oil can be shipped out, thus increasing the price of gasoline even in Nebraska to Alberta area.

The recent drop in price elsewhere in North America is do to an overall drop in demand world wide. Sooner or later the drop elsewhere will match the increase in Nebraska, the Dakotas, Montana and Alberta. Will take a few months but it will happen.

Now, this is a result of a reversal of one old pipeline, when the new pipeline is completed, that same area will pay world wide oil prices no matter how much oil is produced or used.

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