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Grassy Knoll

(10,118 posts)
Thu May 10, 2012, 08:18 PM May 2012

Mitt Romney Bullying: Classmate Says High-School Behavior Was Like 'Lord Of The Flies'

Source: huffingtonpost

An anonymous former high-school classmate of Mitt Romney's told ABC News on Thursday that many fellow students have "really negative memories" of the Republican presidential candidate, and that his behavior during those years was "like
'Lord of the Flies.'"

The interview came on the heels of a Washington Post report that detailed Romney's behavior as a student at the Cranbrook School, a prestigious institution in Bloomfield Hills, Mich. In the article's most explosive revelation, multiple classmates of Romney's recall how he led a group of students that forcibly cut the hair of John Lauber, a student who was thought to be gay.



Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/10/mitt-romney-bullying-lord-of-the-flies_n_1507757.html

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Mitt Romney Bullying: Classmate Says High-School Behavior Was Like 'Lord Of The Flies' (Original Post) Grassy Knoll May 2012 OP
Before Seamus... Brooklyn Dame May 2012 #1
Has Mr. Lauber been found to comment on this? Kingofalldems May 2012 #2
He died in 2004 n/t indie_voter May 2012 #3
How ...er, 'convenient' crayfish May 2012 #5
Convenient for whom? groundloop May 2012 #19
He died of cancer thucythucy May 2012 #4
No, he can't. We already know some of the Romney Body Count at Bains, now the rest will come out. freshwest May 2012 #8
Mitt is just another Chainsaw Al...maybe even worse. He tried to keep it a secret. Auntie Bush May 2012 #22
Wait a minute, wait a minute... BadtotheboneBob May 2012 #6
It is another indicator of his character. nt siligut May 2012 #7
RW meme FAIL. It speaks to his underlying character. kestrel91316 May 2012 #9
I think it shows a behavior pattern. MrSlayer May 2012 #10
Who said political bashing was PC ? Grassy Knoll May 2012 #11
The Republicans recently smeared Obama for eating dog meat creeksneakers2 May 2012 #23
I totally disagree. DeSwiss May 2012 #12
This is the worst thing I have ever heard about Mitt the Shit. Major Hogwash May 2012 #13
When Mitt flew to Vegas to give a big, sloppy kiss to Trump & birtherism, his youth became fair game Adenoid_Hynkel May 2012 #14
Let's see, Obama admits...while Mitt denies remembering a vicious attack and then apologizes IF ScreamingMeemie May 2012 #16
Exactly. He doesn't have the ability to stand up and simply say "I screwed up" groundloop May 2012 #21
Nice try. FAIL. nt TBF May 2012 #17
Thank you for your concern. nt Ruby the Liberal May 2012 #20
are you still here???? Skittles May 2012 #24
Sure... Why not? BadtotheboneBob May 2012 #25
It means you're not fooling anyone lunatica May 2012 #27
Thanks! BadtotheboneBob May 2012 #29
dittomasters assume their fans are idiots Skittles May 2012 #36
Maybe "High School Bullying" is a new litmus test for Prez JustABozoOnThisBus May 2012 #32
I beg your pardon. Obama's drug use arguably hurt no one but himself. Romney, otoh, coalition_unwilling May 2012 #33
are you bad to the bone in real life? snooper2 May 2012 #34
Drug use is no where near as bad as assaulting another person treestar May 2012 #39
What?! Drugs are done to oneself; assault is done to another. polichick May 2012 #42
This story just gets worse and worse!! (For Mittens, I mean.) nt daaron May 2012 #15
You can't run a negative campaign after being accused of being a bulky cap May 2012 #18
That's a very astute observation lunatica May 2012 #26
Yes! I like it treestar May 2012 #40
For those of you who've either forgotten or not experienced Lord of the Flies... truthisfreedom May 2012 #28
If here were remorseful about it today, we (the public) might let it go. Quantess May 2012 #30
While at Sandhurst, Cadet Bernard Law Montgomery malthaussen May 2012 #31
And I have read comments from people who dealt with Gen. Montgomery during WWII amandabeech May 2012 #38
"Montgomery was a narcissistic jerk" malthaussen May 2012 #41
Yes, very much so. amandabeech May 2012 #43
This comes as no surprise to me tawadi May 2012 #35
""Going back to the 1960s, that (sexual orientation) wasn't something we all discussed hedgehog May 2012 #37
Mitt was 17/18 and was saying "atta girl" when Lauber answered in class KurtNYC May 2012 #44

groundloop

(11,518 posts)
19. Convenient for whom?
Thu May 10, 2012, 10:30 PM
May 2012

As far as understanding the kind of person Mitt rMoney is, the death of his bullying victim, in this case, is irrelevant. There were 5 separate, independent accounts given of the incident and they were all identical. We're getting a clearer picture of what's in Mitten's soul, and it's not pretty.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
8. No, he can't. We already know some of the Romney Body Count at Bains, now the rest will come out.
Thu May 10, 2012, 08:59 PM
May 2012

No doubt there were other victims whose lives he made miserable while 'just having a little sport.' How many of those whose businesses, jobs, communities and health care were stolen by Romney are now dead?

When Kenny Lay's ENRON screwed their employees, some died from lack of health care because their 401Ks were gone, along with their life savings and pensions.

All of the human costs of corporate looters must be factored into how much credit we give their capacity to govern.

Behind every great fortune there is a great crime. ~ Honore de Balzac (?)

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
22. Mitt is just another Chainsaw Al...maybe even worse. He tried to keep it a secret.
Thu May 10, 2012, 10:44 PM
May 2012

But, the secrets are coming out...not a minute to soon.

BadtotheboneBob

(413 posts)
6. Wait a minute, wait a minute...
Thu May 10, 2012, 08:44 PM
May 2012

... Come on, folks. That was high school and has no more bearing on the man now as Obama's admitted drug use when he was younger does to him today. There's enough to go on against Mitt as an adult as it is. This is non-starter.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
9. RW meme FAIL. It speaks to his underlying character.
Thu May 10, 2012, 08:59 PM
May 2012

Enjoy your stay.

Are you unaware that personal recreational drug use is a victimless "crime"? How can you possible compare it to CRIMINAL ASSAULT AND A HATE CRIME?????????

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
10. I think it shows a behavior pattern.
Thu May 10, 2012, 09:01 PM
May 2012

Obama didn't continue to use drugs throughout the rest of his life. Romney, on the other hand, did continue bullying his way through life and still does today. He's a punk and a coward and has no problem with hurting his "lessers". Past is prologue in this case.

Grassy Knoll

(10,118 posts)
11. Who said political bashing was PC ?
Thu May 10, 2012, 09:01 PM
May 2012

Dems for too long let the CONS get away with this, not saying it's mature, But dems
are starting to throw baby caca back in their faces, and it has them on their heels.

creeksneakers2

(7,473 posts)
23. The Republicans recently smeared Obama for eating dog meat
Thu May 10, 2012, 10:46 PM
May 2012

Obama was six at the time and living in a culture where others did the same. When the GOP attacked Obama, they didn't mention he was six at the time.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
12. I totally disagree.
Thu May 10, 2012, 09:02 PM
May 2012

In fact I would say that such an attitude demonstrates a total lack of understanding of what constitutes an indicator of a person's basic character traits and that it is largely the reason why our legislatures and leadership positions in this country are filled to the brim with narrcisstic socipaths and tea-bagging crackpots, this very day.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
13. This is the worst thing I have ever heard about Mitt the Shit.
Thu May 10, 2012, 09:19 PM
May 2012

There is absolutely no excuse for bullying, not after the 6th grade!!
I knew the difference between right and wrong by the time I was 12 years old!!

This is a huge character defect for Romney. And he has used his size, and his money, to throw around his weight all of his life.



 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
14. When Mitt flew to Vegas to give a big, sloppy kiss to Trump & birtherism, his youth became fair game
Thu May 10, 2012, 09:24 PM
May 2012

If Mitt thinks it's fine and dandy to spread lies and B.S. about President Obama's birth, then the media has every right to look into far more factual info about Mitt's teenage years.

It's too late for Mitt to call for the campaign to take the high road - he's already been rolling in the gutter with folks like Trump and Nugent.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
16. Let's see, Obama admits...while Mitt denies remembering a vicious attack and then apologizes IF
Thu May 10, 2012, 10:18 PM
May 2012

he hurt anyone. I see a difference, don't you?

Mitt, as an adult, should know how to respond. He does not. That says a lot to me.

groundloop

(11,518 posts)
21. Exactly. He doesn't have the ability to stand up and simply say "I screwed up"
Thu May 10, 2012, 10:34 PM
May 2012

ALL he'd have had to do is say the words "I shouldn't have done that and I'm ashamed of it" and this would be well on the way to being put behind him. But rMoney's arrogance keeps him from admitting he did anything wrong.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,338 posts)
32. Maybe "High School Bullying" is a new litmus test for Prez
Fri May 11, 2012, 08:57 AM
May 2012

And I wonder how past presidents would have been classified if their high school experience was opened. It could be a good drinking game: Bully or Bullied?

I can just imagine LBJ responding to this accusation: "Yeah. So what?"

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
33. I beg your pardon. Obama's drug use arguably hurt no one but himself. Romney, otoh,
Fri May 11, 2012, 09:31 AM
May 2012

committed felony assault with a deadly weapon (scissors) on a fellow human being. Shame on you for suggesting the two events are similar.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
39. Drug use is no where near as bad as assaulting another person
Sat May 12, 2012, 07:16 PM
May 2012

Rmoney was offended by hair length and tried to force his views on another person.

cap

(7,170 posts)
18. You can't run a negative campaign after being accused of being a bulky
Thu May 10, 2012, 10:26 PM
May 2012

Romney has got to spend time being mr nice guy, or trying to be. Kind of blunts the attack dogs

truthisfreedom

(23,145 posts)
28. For those of you who've either forgotten or not experienced Lord of the Flies...
Fri May 11, 2012, 06:51 AM
May 2012

Here's a synopsis:

http://www.sparknotes.com/lit/flies/summary.html

I recall reading the book in junior high school and realizing that my fellow classmates were capable of such madness without the protective cocoon of civilization to temper them.

The corporate raider mentality that brought Mittens his conscienceless hundreds of millions of dollars is hauntingly familiar in the light of this book's theme. Part of the problem with unsupervised, cannibalistic capitalism in this country is that the "boys" run wild and do as they wish at the expense of the vulnerable and defenseless. The boulder, Piggy, and the conch are symbols we must not forget when we examine the madness and mayhem of modern cold-blooded leveraged buyouts.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
30. If here were remorseful about it today, we (the public) might let it go.
Fri May 11, 2012, 07:54 AM
May 2012

But he just snorts and waves it off, and basically says eh, who cares, it was no big deal.
He should be showing us that he has grown as a person and has become nicer. But, nope. He obviously isn't any nicer now than he was back then.

malthaussen

(17,187 posts)
31. While at Sandhurst, Cadet Bernard Law Montgomery
Fri May 11, 2012, 08:45 AM
May 2012

... set on fire the trousers of a fellow cadet. While the cadet was wearing them. In his memoirs, Monty remembers the incident with absolute glee. Perhaps there are more parallels between the characters of the two men?

I think there is great misunderstanding of this Romney incident, probably because the victim was gay, and therefore we assume it was an anti-gay hate crime. But it seems to me more likely that this was an act done in the name of upholding conformity and community standards. "He can't look like that," etc. The victim was not, in the eyes of Romney and his co-conspirators, upholding the proper standards of an inmate of Cranbook School. And this is probably why Romney doesn't apologize for doing anything wrong: he doesn't believe he did anything wrong.

-- Mal

 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
38. And I have read comments from people who dealt with Gen. Montgomery during WWII
Sat May 12, 2012, 06:27 PM
May 2012

who thought essentially that Montgomery was a narcissistic jerk. I believe that Ike was one of them.

You notice that he did not have a political career after the war. He'd probably pissed off too many people.

Comparisons to Montgomery are not flattering to Romney, although they may be correct.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
37. ""Going back to the 1960s, that (sexual orientation) wasn't something we all discussed
Sat May 12, 2012, 05:56 PM
May 2012

or considered.""

Lord of the Flies maybe, but King of the Bullshit for sure!

I remember eating lunch in 8th grade with a couple boys who were kind of outsiders - I was the last girl and they were the first boys at the divide bt where the girls and boys sat. I know why I was an outsider, but had no idea what was going on in their lives. Now I wonder if one or more of them were gay? The point being, kids then may or may not have known the words, but they knew who was different and tended to isolate them!

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
44. Mitt was 17/18 and was saying "atta girl" when Lauber answered in class
Mon May 14, 2012, 02:17 PM
May 2012

Mitt's parents moved after being elected governor and this forced Mitt to move from home to the dorms to finish at the prep school. He had issues and it seems he took them out on others whom he perceived to be vulnerable and unable to fight back. He certainly knew what he was saying with the phrase "atta girl"

Also, after WWII the concept that someone could be gay was well known and while the word 'gay' did not become the term of choice for many years, there were a variety of terms, mostly derogatory, that were used throughout the 1950s -- fruit, swish, etc. A 1950s understanding of gay men was that 'they wanted to be women' so Romney's harassment fits with the period.

A hit TV show from this period was "Bewitched" which featured the character 'Uncle Arthur' played by Paul Lynde. Also highly visible in this period were Charles Nelson Riley and Rip Taylor. And earlier, the late 1950s, Little Richard who's biggest hit was a song called "Tutti Frutti." So Americans including those in their late teens were very familiar with the idea that someone could be gay.

An aside, Little Richard was disowned by his father for being effeminate, then accepted again when he started making money:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_richard#Personal_life

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