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Galraedia

(5,022 posts)
Thu May 10, 2012, 10:36 PM May 2012

A Desperate Mitt Romney Claims Obama Planted Gay Bullying Story

Source: Politicususa

Instead of taking responsibility for his bullying, Mitt Romney is accusing President Obama’s campaign of planting the story.

Here is the video from Mediaite:

Romney was asked by Fox News host Neil Cavuto if the he thought the Obama campaign planted the bullying story, and he answered, “Well, I think you’re going to find, throughout this campaign season, that the president’s team will be doing everything in their power to try and hold up very shiny objects many of them will be with regards to me…”

According to Romney, this was all an evil Obama plot to distract the American people, but the facts don’t support his claims. While political folks and conspiracy theorists alike are speculating that Obama’s announced support for same sex marriage was choreographed, the reality is that Vice President Biden’s comments got the president to make his announcement a little ahead of schedule. CNN reported that Obama wasn’t supposed to make his support publicly known until his appearance next week on The View.

Read more: http://www.politicususa.com/a-desperate-mitt-romney-claims-obama-planted-gay-bullying-story.html

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A Desperate Mitt Romney Claims Obama Planted Gay Bullying Story (Original Post) Galraedia May 2012 OP
Obama didn't PLANT it. He sure as hell exploited it, though--and who wouldn't? MADem May 2012 #1
DUzy award! freshwest May 2012 #17
It's about time the Dems' gave the wingers some of their own medicine. Except crunch60 May 2012 #35
Ah yes, the "It's Obama's Fault" chestnut high density May 2012 #2
kinda typical bully scenerio too. PatrynXX May 2012 #36
Everything is Obama's fault, hey Romney? FrenchieCat May 2012 #3
Hey, it's always Obama's fault. I didn't win the lottery today, it's Obama's fault. freshwest May 2012 #16
I have some relatives like that. Lex May 2012 #25
LOL! Just curious.. Who did they blame before Obama? Clinton? Carter? FDR? freshwest May 2012 #27
Ahhhh, yessss....the CLINTONS!!!! MADem May 2012 #66
oh sure. wasted an hour on a BDR PatrynXX May 2012 #37
I poured a bowl of Frosted Flakes this morning and then realized I didn't have any milk. Arkana May 2012 #74
This is a total meltdown. Pab Sungenis May 2012 #4
That's quite a stretch RZM May 2012 #30
It's not the story itself, though. randome May 2012 #82
Which is exactly why he is going in front of friendly questioners jonthebru May 2012 #86
He's certainly not the best at it RZM May 2012 #87
yeah think this will eventually cripple at least his moral highground PatrynXX May 2012 #38
well, on our telly, they're airing the romney commercial more newspeak May 2012 #76
Ain't it awesome? Ruby the Liberal May 2012 #46
Except in Muskie's case, Segretti's dirty tricks boys had been coalition_unwilling May 2012 #54
Didn't mean to insult Muskie. Pab Sungenis May 2012 #62
+1, claiming "plant" was total BS. joshcryer May 2012 #55
Like father, like son? MADem May 2012 #67
And if he did? charlyvi May 2012 #5
Fight fire with fire. freshwest May 2012 #18
Damn Obama's good Politicalboi May 2012 #6
"Swift boat" Romney! xtraxritical May 2012 #9
All Hands On Deck Politicalboi May 2012 #13
"But, but, but, but... we want to talk about the economy" Gman May 2012 #7
The problem is... Icicle May 2012 #22
The problem for us is that they are stillwinning the votes like they did in N.C. It ain't over yet! freshwest May 2012 #29
yeah, what romney plans to do to the american people newspeak May 2012 #78
wow...what a loser madrchsod May 2012 #8
Those Obama's are amazing!!!! 1st they had the foresight 48 yrs ago to put an announcement in the Pachamama May 2012 #10
BRILLIANT FOLKS! How f*ckin' stupid do the conservanazis think we are? TxVietVet May 2012 #32
Why are they called conservatives? They are radical, right wing faux Christians. Watch crunch60 May 2012 #40
I personally believe Barack Obama's a time traveler come from the future to take control. . . Journeyman May 2012 #51
DUzY for sure! - n/t coalition_unwilling May 2012 #56
You are true to your name Journeyman!!!! Pachamama May 2012 #72
Romney digs a deeper hole for himself every day Rosa Luxemburg May 2012 #11
This "I don't remember" bit is worse than the original offense. mwb970 May 2012 #70
I'm not so sure about that. The original offense is assault with coalition_unwilling May 2012 #80
When called on their hate, bullies spew a million deflections and excuses Bluenorthwest May 2012 #12
So true! He's showing more and more about the creep he really is. polichick May 2012 #89
Romney got played alright. truthisfreedom May 2012 #14
Can you imagine this vulture running our country? Very scary thought. crunch60 May 2012 #41
ACORN, a plant, Bill Ayers, A plant, Rev. Wright A plant, ..... Grassy Knoll May 2012 #15
How do you "plant" a story with 4 witnesses? Renew Deal May 2012 #19
Seriously. Lex May 2012 #23
yes, and this is what one of the witnesses had to say: at least he is honest crunch60 May 2012 #43
Mom, they're picking on me! Bozita May 2012 #20
Is is a LIE or not, Mittens? Lex May 2012 #21
Of course, how could we have missed this matt819 May 2012 #24
That BS could hurt hm even more than the actual bullying story! tblue37 May 2012 #26
As I said, the bullying was about temperament, but Pab Sungenis May 2012 #65
He could have easily survived it. BattyDem May 2012 #28
EXACTLY Skittles May 2012 #31
But part of the whole perception game is not appearing weak or ceding the initative to the opponent RZM May 2012 #33
I'm glad you're not Mitt's advisor! SunSeeker May 2012 #34
LOL RZM May 2012 #39
Any other year, I'd agree with you ... but not this year. BattyDem May 2012 #44
I agree that the issue is much bigger now RZM May 2012 #45
Talking about Bain, flip-flopping, and GM is fine by me. BattyDem May 2012 #47
My point is that's what peope actually care about RZM May 2012 #48
I don't want a bully as President. The prospect makes me sick to my stomach - n/t coalition_unwilling May 2012 #57
I don't think anybody here wants Romney as president anyway RZM May 2012 #58
thing is, would you accept that apology if he really said that? alp227 May 2012 #49
If it seemed sincere I would give him the benefit of the doubt ... BattyDem May 2012 #52
So a 4 year old Barack Obama made a 18 year old Mitt Romney assault .... Botany May 2012 #42
and a 4-year-old living in Hawaii too? wow alp227 May 2012 #50
Snort ... GeorgeGist May 2012 #53
As if! "Planting" the story, which implies it isn't true...you know, like birther rumors. pepperbear May 2012 #59
The Obama campaign is dominating the message lunatica May 2012 #60
If this is Chicago-style politics truthisfreedom May 2012 #61
Breaking news... Pab Sungenis May 2012 #63
Poor Myth Rmoney amuse bouche May 2012 #64
Stop and think for a moment: Chipper Chat May 2012 #68
Does Romney ever appear anywhere besides Fox "News"? mwb970 May 2012 #69
This message was self-deleted by its author bucolic_frolic May 2012 #71
Ahahahaha what? Arkana May 2012 #73
Mittens, mittens, mittens, Liberalynn May 2012 #75
Well, to be fair, Obama is a 32 dimensional chess player montanto May 2012 #77
Sociopaths always blame someone else... polichick May 2012 #79
Republicans will overlook this, too. randome May 2012 #81
That's what I think too - independents and maybe suburban Republican moms. polichick May 2012 #85
oh willard! struggle4progress May 2012 #83
That is disturbingly appropriate! randome May 2012 #84
Willard thinks he is the victim. sarcasmo May 2012 #88

MADem

(135,425 posts)
1. Obama didn't PLANT it. He sure as hell exploited it, though--and who wouldn't?
Thu May 10, 2012, 10:42 PM
May 2012

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time, Mittsy.

There were too many witnesses.

Hey Seamus, can I get a woof-woof up in here?

 

crunch60

(1,412 posts)
35. It's about time the Dems' gave the wingers some of their own medicine. Except
Fri May 11, 2012, 12:50 AM
May 2012

the Dems' are exposing the Truth, something the wingers don't care about, they attack with half truths or outright lies.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
36. kinda typical bully scenerio too.
Fri May 11, 2012, 12:53 AM
May 2012

Irony of ironies. Obama was the one bullied (so have I , not there is no possible moral highground this guy can take. it's all low ground. I know the type. typically supposedly pretending to be Christian etc etc crap. I assume it's getting rather warm somewhere just for him

so Mitt's the bully. Great the Bully vs the Bullied. May the bully lose...

FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
3. Everything is Obama's fault, hey Romney?
Thu May 10, 2012, 10:45 PM
May 2012

Even what you did with a pair of scissors in your hands when Obama was in Hawaii being what....4 or 5 years old?


Oh brother!

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
16. Hey, it's always Obama's fault. I didn't win the lottery today, it's Obama's fault.
Thu May 10, 2012, 11:07 PM
May 2012
Now I didn't buy a ticket to play the game, but we'll leave that little item out.

See how easy that was?

Lex

(34,108 posts)
25. I have some relatives like that.
Thu May 10, 2012, 11:29 PM
May 2012

They are so pathetic that the rest of us (the Democrats in the family) laugh at them. "I stubbed my toe---it's Obama's fault!"


freshwest

(53,661 posts)
27. LOL! Just curious.. Who did they blame before Obama? Clinton? Carter? FDR?
Thu May 10, 2012, 11:49 PM
May 2012

We've been living under GOP control for most of the last thirty years.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
66. Ahhhh, yessss....the CLINTONS!!!!
Fri May 11, 2012, 08:21 AM
May 2012

Bill and his saxaphone, and Hillary with her....her.....changing HAIRSTYLES!!!! Oh, the humanity!!!!

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
37. oh sure. wasted an hour on a BDR
Fri May 11, 2012, 12:55 AM
May 2012

that I filled to within 3mb of capacity. but duh it's obama's fault it failed the test. shit.. stupid Obama.


course their stupid counter claim is Obama blames anybody but himself. he when it's Obamas fault he'll take it. But blame goes where blames due.

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
74. I poured a bowl of Frosted Flakes this morning and then realized I didn't have any milk.
Fri May 11, 2012, 10:23 AM
May 2012

This is obviously Obama's fault. Damn socialized cereal!

 

Pab Sungenis

(9,612 posts)
4. This is a total meltdown.
Thu May 10, 2012, 10:49 PM
May 2012

He could have survived the bullying story. But claiming it's a plant by Obama?

He's losing it. He might not even make it to the convention. Not because of the story, but because of his response. This is Muskie's melting snowflakes.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
30. That's quite a stretch
Fri May 11, 2012, 12:21 AM
May 2012

I don't think this will have much of an effect at all on Mitt's candidacy. Once the real campaigning starts, the Obama team won't even bring it up. To the extent the go after him for his past, it will be on Bain and his political life. Even DU will move on from this incident once the campaign season is in full swing.

And the Muskie thing doesn't really work either. First of all, the snowflake incident was during the New Hampshire primary, when it was still anybody's game. Second, it was a gaffe (or a perceived one) in the here and now. The issue was that a grown man who was running for president had cried on the campaign trail.

In contrast, the Mittster's scissors incident was in 1965, when he was an adolescent. That's a far cry from the here and now. The closest equivalent to Muskie's snowflakes in this cycle was probably Rick Perry's 'oops' moment.

Romney's response here isn't all that unusual for a politician. When faced with damaging info, spin it and blame your opponent. It's damage control 101.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
82. It's not the story itself, though.
Fri May 11, 2012, 01:10 PM
May 2012

It's the awkward way he deals with stress. He has not been handling things well the entire campaign and we're only in May.

I think it's possible he may have a public meltdown before November. I'm not holding my breath or anything but I think he's in over his head.

jonthebru

(1,034 posts)
86. Which is exactly why he is going in front of friendly questioners
Fri May 11, 2012, 02:39 PM
May 2012

and not facing the press straight on. Witness the questions from the reporter in Colorado wit questions he was not prepared to answer or discuss.
He is made of cardboard and will melt in the rain.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
87. He's certainly not the best at it
Fri May 11, 2012, 04:56 PM
May 2012

Although I don't get the sense that his handing of this story has been god-awful. It hasn't been very good, but I wouldn't say it's a disaster.

But there will be plenty more such stories between now and November. We'll see how he handles those.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
38. yeah think this will eventually cripple at least his moral highground
Fri May 11, 2012, 12:56 AM
May 2012

ie he doesn't have one. Everyone knows he has a temper. This was hardly a plant..

newspeak

(4,847 posts)
76. well, on our telly, they're airing the romney commercial more
Fri May 11, 2012, 11:16 AM
May 2012

the one where his business partner's daughter goes missing and how romney sent some of his people to look for her. First, it was his business partner; second, she was fourteen years old and I keep wondering why she ran away.

What I'm reading is romney heckled this poor guy in front of everyone numerous times before he got physical. To me, it shows one's character. Of course, saying something like you don't remember also shows a lack of compassion (couldn't care enough about causing pain to others) or you're nothing but a liar.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
54. Except in Muskie's case, Segretti's dirty tricks boys had been
Fri May 11, 2012, 03:44 AM
May 2012

doing their shitty stuff.

To even yoke Muskie and Romney together in the same sentence does a grave disservice to Muskie, imho. Romney isn't fit to lick the soles of Muskie's shoes.

 

Pab Sungenis

(9,612 posts)
62. Didn't mean to insult Muskie.
Fri May 11, 2012, 07:54 AM
May 2012

But if Muskie hadn't broken down into tears over the assaults on his wife, he might have gone all the way to the nomination.

Also look at Perot's first withdrawal, claiming that the Republicans were going to disrupt his kid's wedding. That's what got him the "crazy" label, not his batshit insane policies.

The question now isn't just Romney's temperament (the bullying in his past, which might be fairly easily overlooked by some) but his stability. And that can be fatal. This accusation of his is what we keep hitting him on. Do we want someone looking for a scapegoat all the time in control of nuclear weapons?

MADem

(135,425 posts)
67. Like father, like son?
Fri May 11, 2012, 08:26 AM
May 2012

"I was BRAINWASHED by those generals, I tell ya!!! BRAINWASHED!!!! It's all THEIR fault!!!!"

There is a defect in character that runs through that family, it would seem. They are unable to take responsibility, they find it impossible to form the words "I made a mistake" -- at least that's how it seems to me!

charlyvi

(6,537 posts)
5. And if he did?
Thu May 10, 2012, 10:49 PM
May 2012

It's about damn time Democrats started playing hardball with these fuckers. After all, BOTH SIDES DO IT, right?

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
6. Damn Obama's good
Thu May 10, 2012, 10:50 PM
May 2012

He not only get a newspaper in Hawaii to print about his birth, he also has the power to control Rmoney old friends into exposing Rmoney for the real bully he is. Yes He Can!

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
13. All Hands On Deck
Thu May 10, 2012, 11:01 PM
May 2012

We need to make more of this story. We need to put that teenage face out there so we can see Rmoney victim. Let's hear from the victims friends and family as to how that day changed his life. Did he turn to drugs or alcohol over the abuse Rmoney put him through? And now he says he doesn't remember. Well let's get some pictures out there so Rmoney can see who we're talking about.

Gman

(24,780 posts)
7. "But, but, but, but... we want to talk about the economy"
Thu May 10, 2012, 10:52 PM
May 2012

How many times in the last 3.5 years have we heard the 2012 election was going to be about the economy.

They're stumbling because they feel they've lost control of the message and the discourse. They need to hold onto their hats, there's much more where this came from.

Icicle

(121 posts)
22. The problem is...
Thu May 10, 2012, 11:27 PM
May 2012

.... after getting a look at the newest Ryan budget, which Mitt said was "marvelous," we already know that their only economic idea is to gut the country and give everything to those who are already filthy rich.
They didn't want to talk about that, so they tried the social issues, and were promptly rejected. Now they don't know where to pivot.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
29. The problem for us is that they are stillwinning the votes like they did in N.C. It ain't over yet!
Thu May 10, 2012, 11:59 PM
May 2012

But you are right on, yes!

They're going to gut the country and sell it off at a faster pace than they are now.

The battle is state by state now.

newspeak

(4,847 posts)
78. yeah, what romney plans to do to the american people
Fri May 11, 2012, 11:41 AM
May 2012

especially, after people losing their decent jobs, losing their homes; while further whoring to global corporations, is an outright randian dream. Predatory capitalism at it's finest. Oh, and ryan can take his randian ideas and shove it. Absolutely marvelous plan ryan if you want to get rid of the sick, elderly, children and those families having a time putting food on the table.

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
10. Those Obama's are amazing!!!! 1st they had the foresight 48 yrs ago to put an announcement in the
Thu May 10, 2012, 10:57 PM
May 2012

....newspaper announcing Barack Obama's birth (even though he was really born in Africa and they wanted him to be America's 1st Black President) and then they had the foresight to plant false memories into 5 people about an event to frame the person that they thought would run against him!

Amazing!!!!!

 

crunch60

(1,412 posts)
40. Why are they called conservatives? They are radical, right wing faux Christians. Watch
Fri May 11, 2012, 01:04 AM
May 2012

out for those carrying a cross draped in the American flag.

Journeyman

(15,031 posts)
51. I personally believe Barack Obama's a time traveler come from the future to take control. . .
Fri May 11, 2012, 02:29 AM
May 2012

Last edited Fri May 11, 2012, 04:39 AM - Edit history (1)

it's the only thing that can explain how "conveniently" everything he needs materializes when he needs it.

People question his birth, suddenly an announcement appears in a newspaper 50 years ago.

His opponent in 2008 looks "plausible," suddenly a cuckoo born 47 years ago is picked to be his running mate.

Romney becomes "presumptive" in 2012, suddenly strange memories are implanted in teens 50 years ago.

I tell you, there's no other explanation. I'm a "future birther." Obama must time travel to be as nefarious as his opponents claim.

mwb970

(11,358 posts)
70. This "I don't remember" bit is worse than the original offense.
Fri May 11, 2012, 09:00 AM
May 2012

Remember Reagan, who "couldn't recall" anything about the Iran-Contra scandal? Or Alberto Gonzales, with his "I don't remember forgetting what I told you before that I forgot remembering", or whatever nonsense it was, about the US attorney firing scandal?

These republicans appear to have defective memory chips. They remember every imaginary offense committed by a liberal, but never have any recollection of their own misbehavior. Actually, I think they are just liars, with Romney the biggest liar of them all.

What a horrible man he is.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
80. I'm not so sure about that. The original offense is assault with
Fri May 11, 2012, 12:24 PM
May 2012

a deadly weapon. That's a pretty fucking high hurdle to get over.

But I get your drift.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
12. When called on their hate, bullies spew a million deflections and excuses
Thu May 10, 2012, 10:59 PM
May 2012

Romney is just like the rest of them. He'll lie while accusing others of dishonesty.

truthisfreedom

(23,145 posts)
14. Romney got played alright.
Thu May 10, 2012, 11:02 PM
May 2012

By Romney. He's still that little boy bully, and he has no idea what he's up against. The leader of the free world is not going to let this country fall into enemy hands.

Grassy Knoll

(10,118 posts)
15. ACORN, a plant, Bill Ayers, A plant, Rev. Wright A plant, .....
Thu May 10, 2012, 11:03 PM
May 2012

Shoe on the other foot, a plant, do repugs think we don't see the game ?

Lex

(34,108 posts)
23. Seriously.
Thu May 10, 2012, 11:28 PM
May 2012

He's just mad the story got out about him and is trying to blame anyone to distract from the actual story. WEAK.

 

crunch60

(1,412 posts)
43. yes, and this is what one of the witnesses had to say: at least he is honest
Fri May 11, 2012, 01:14 AM
May 2012

and takes responsibility for his actions. Romney trying to blame Obama when all his buddies are coming forward with the true story of the incident, lying, elitist coward.

Former Mitt Romney classmate remembers his bullying as 'evil' and 'like Lord of the Flies'

snip;
"Mitt was a prankster, there's no doubt about it. This thing with Lauber wasn't a prank. This was, well, as a lawyer, it was an assault. It was an assault and a battery. And I'm sure that John Lauber carried it with him for the rest of his life," Maxwell told CBS News. [...] "I've carried this story with me a long time. It was very disturbing. I think that view is shared by everyone involved in it," Maxwell says. "It just was a black mark on my character that I didn't stop it."

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/05/10/1090515/-Former-Mitt-Romney-classmate-remembers-his-bullying-as-evil-and-like-Lord-of-the-Flies-

matt819

(10,749 posts)
24. Of course, how could we have missed this
Thu May 10, 2012, 11:28 PM
May 2012

A 4-year old Obama secretly flew from Indonesia via madrasas in Pakistan back to the Cranbrook Academy, where he blended into the background disguised as either a tree, a slave, or a servant's child, whereupon he goaded the 18-year-old rich, white kid to attach a gay kid with scissors.

It's all so simple when you just think about it for a minute.

tblue37

(65,328 posts)
26. That BS could hurt hm even more than the actual bullying story!
Thu May 10, 2012, 11:41 PM
May 2012

Last edited Sat May 12, 2012, 02:32 PM - Edit history (1)

It reinforces the impression that he is weak, slimy, and weasely.

 

Pab Sungenis

(9,612 posts)
65. As I said, the bullying was about temperament, but
Fri May 11, 2012, 08:04 AM
May 2012

the "Obama planted the story" bullshit is about his stability. He's too unstable to be President. That's our message.

BattyDem

(11,075 posts)
28. He could have easily survived it.
Thu May 10, 2012, 11:55 PM
May 2012

All he had to do was say ...

"I was a jackass in high school. I was a bully and I'm not proud of that. I can't change the past, but as President, I can help shape the future by supporting anti-bullying legislation. Attacking another human being, either verbally or physically, is never the right thing to do. I would like to formally apologize to John Lauber for any pain I caused him. I had no right to do that to you and I'm very sorry."


A statement like that would have been the Presidential thing to do! In a country where teens are killing themselves because they are bullied, he could have stood up, taken responsibility, educated people by talking about his own experiences and perhaps even made a difference. Instead, he chose the "if anyone was offended" non-apology and then blamed Obama! Soon he'll be blaming Lauber for getting his hair in the way of Romney's scissor!

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
33. But part of the whole perception game is not appearing weak or ceding the initative to the opponent
Fri May 11, 2012, 12:40 AM
May 2012

Doing so makes one look quite un-presidential. And what's more, few who feel strongly about this incident would have given him much credit for it. Going too far to appear apologetic comes with far more potential negatives than positives.

Were I advising Romney, I would have told him to say this:

'I did some pretty dumb things as an adolescent. But I also grew up and tried to use my mistakes to teach my own children right from wrong.' And then go into a spiel about how this campaign shouldn't be about the past but about the future of America, yadda yadda yadda.

I would have advised him to lay off blaming Obama for the WaPo story. Even if it's true, there's no way to prove it, so it will go down as an unsubstantiated allegation. That did make him look weak and whiney.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
39. LOL
Fri May 11, 2012, 01:02 AM
May 2012

Thanks, I guess

It's sad that I post this shit for free on DU while the hustlers who give the Mittster bad advice for a living get paid out the wazoo.

I've wondered before whether Democratic strategists are better at their jobs than Republican strategists. Perhaps not, but I'm not so sure. Maybe they appear better because they have some advantages (a friendlier, more populist message and, forgive the DU heresy, a more favorable media climate).

But I don't think anybody can argue that in 2008, the McCain campaign was severely outclassed by the Obama team. Even Charlie Kraut admitted that Obama's convention speech was the product of truly brilliant political minds.

I think something similar might happen this time around. The anti-establishment right tends to portray Republican strategists as hucksters and self-interested hacks who join losing campaigns in order to build personal profile so they can then get choice lobbying jobs raging against the Democratic machine they had no hope or genuine intention of defeating. Meg Whitman's candidacy was a prime example. A whole lot of people got paid off of that quixotic train wreck.

BattyDem

(11,075 posts)
44. Any other year, I'd agree with you ... but not this year.
Fri May 11, 2012, 01:34 AM
May 2012

The entire country knows that in 2012, bullying comes with a body count. "Back in high school, I did some dumb things" just doesn't cut it in a world where kids are killing themselves over the same "dumb things" you did. To the GOP base, an apology is weakness, but to most people, offering a sincere apology and acknowledging the pain you caused shows strength of character. A "real" apology may anger the base now, but it's only May. By November, they'll be in all-out "Beat Obama" mode and it won't matter.

The problem for Mitt is that stuff like this keeps coming out. There's a recurring theme of cruelty with Mitt: the dog, the blind teacher, "I like being able to fire people" and now, the assault on the classmate. Maybe that's it. Maybe there won't be any more stories, but I doubt it. He's already being ridiculed for the non-apology and for claiming not to remember the incident. Taking responsibility for his actions would have shown integrity and probably would have diffused the impact of any other stories. He can spin his way out of one bullying incident, but if more come to light, looking "weak" will be the least of his problems.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
45. I agree that the issue is much bigger now
Fri May 11, 2012, 01:45 AM
May 2012

As are LGBT issues. Put them together and you have a genuine 'zeitgeist' story, with the amusing part being that Mitt the bully is somehow a contemporarily relevant story even though the events in question occurred almost 50 years ago.

But 'bulliying' is now a bonifide buzzword. It's in the news a lot and there's even a new movie about it. Mike Huckabee has actually strongly promoted the movie on his Fox show. He even dedicated an episode to it that featured one of the bullied kids and the filmmaker as guests. He's gone so far to proclaim that that whatever it's rating, 'every American needs to see this movie.'

So I do agree that it taps into our current cultural climate. But I'm doubtful that this story has legs. In October, we're going to be taking about Bain, flip-flopping, and GM. We won't be talking much about what Mitt did in 1965, because people care a lot less about that than they do about what his plan is to put America back to work.

BattyDem

(11,075 posts)
47. Talking about Bain, flip-flopping, and GM is fine by me.
Fri May 11, 2012, 01:52 AM
May 2012

Those aren't exactly points of strength for him either!

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
48. My point is that's what peope actually care about
Fri May 11, 2012, 01:56 AM
May 2012

Very few people are going to care about what Mitt did in 1965. They care about whether or not they will be able to get a job in a Romney administration. DU cares, but DU isn't the real world, nor is it swing voters.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
58. I don't think anybody here wants Romney as president anyway
Fri May 11, 2012, 03:57 AM
May 2012

Bully or no, he doesn't cut it.

That's kind of my point. The bully think only matters to people who already dislike Romney.

alp227

(32,018 posts)
49. thing is, would you accept that apology if he really said that?
Fri May 11, 2012, 02:17 AM
May 2012

Some here would claim that Romney wasn't being sincere.

BattyDem

(11,075 posts)
52. If it seemed sincere I would give him the benefit of the doubt ...
Fri May 11, 2012, 03:01 AM
May 2012

but his actions would have to match his words. A sincere apology is pretty easy to recognize: the person acknowledges what he's done, accepts responsibility for it, and tries to make amends. Everyone deserves a chance to make things right, but saying "If anyone was hurt, I apologize" is very different than saying "I apologize for hurting you." The GOP seems to specialize in generalized apologies that don't actually acknowledge what was done or who it was done to.

Botany

(70,490 posts)
42. So a 4 year old Barack Obama made a 18 year old Mitt Romney assault ....
Fri May 11, 2012, 01:06 AM
May 2012

.... another prep school student?

alp227

(32,018 posts)
50. and a 4-year-old living in Hawaii too? wow
Fri May 11, 2012, 02:26 AM
May 2012

in fact i read the original washington post article and it detailed:

“I always enjoyed his pranks,” said Stu White, a popular friend of Romney’s who went on to a career as a public school teacher and said he has been “disturbed” by the Lauber incident since hearing about it several weeks ago, before being contacted by The Washington Post. “But I was not the brunt of any of his pranks.”


How could White have heard about the haircut incident weeks ago? Hmm.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
60. The Obama campaign is dominating the message
Fri May 11, 2012, 06:54 AM
May 2012

LOL! And the Republicans are left gasping and on the defensive, desperate to catch up.

Rove must be belching up major bile right about now. And maybe, with a little bit of luck, Cheney is experiencing chest pains.

truthisfreedom

(23,145 posts)
61. If this is Chicago-style politics
Fri May 11, 2012, 07:00 AM
May 2012

Then Rove's going to be sleepless for the next 6 months trying to strategize around it. It simply doesn't fit with his simplistic "attack strengths/appropriate accomplishments" high-school approach. It's far more sophisticated than anything they've ever scribbled into their back-room cigar-scented playbooks.

 

Pab Sungenis

(9,612 posts)
63. Breaking news...
Fri May 11, 2012, 07:57 AM
May 2012

Romney claims that it was Obama who actually strapped the dog to the roof of his car against his will.

amuse bouche

(3,657 posts)
64. Poor Myth Rmoney
Fri May 11, 2012, 08:02 AM
May 2012

is such a pathetic whiner. I hope there are a lot more stories about the putz over the next few months

Chipper Chat

(9,677 posts)
68. Stop and think for a moment:
Fri May 11, 2012, 08:46 AM
May 2012

Suppose 3 days ago five of Obama's classmates reported that in college he organized a posse of black kids and he pinned a blond white kid down and cut his hair off? He would already be impeached by the House. Boner would be screaming for criminal charges -"to hell with the statute of limitations."

mwb970

(11,358 posts)
69. Does Romney ever appear anywhere besides Fox "News"?
Fri May 11, 2012, 08:55 AM
May 2012

Everything this man does reveals one thing: his overwhelming cowardice. What an awful person.

Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
73. Ahahahaha what?
Fri May 11, 2012, 10:22 AM
May 2012

Yes, Mitt--Obama used his Magic Negro Powers to go back in time to the 1960s and make you commit assault on a defenseless gay kid.

You fucking moron.

 

Liberalynn

(7,549 posts)
75. Mittens, mittens, mittens,
Fri May 11, 2012, 11:04 AM
May 2012

just when we think you can't sink any lower into the pit of darkness, you do.

montanto

(2,966 posts)
77. Well, to be fair, Obama is a 32 dimensional chess player
Fri May 11, 2012, 11:23 AM
May 2012

and he could easily have pulled this off while still in pre-school.

polichick

(37,152 posts)
79. Sociopaths always blame someone else...
Fri May 11, 2012, 11:46 AM
May 2012

imo these revelations are a HUGE wake up call - reminds me that Republicans overlooked GW's animal torture when that should have been a wake up call.

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