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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 12:54 PM Sep 2015

Labor Day Look at the 2016 General Election For President: Every Democrat Trails Trump,...

Source: SurveyUSA Election Poll

Labor Day Look at the 2016 General Election For President: Every Democrat Trails Trump, Though Narrowly:


In an election for President of the United States, today, Labor Day, business provocateur Donald Trump narrowly defeats Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders and Al Gore, in head-to-head matchups, according to nationwide polling conducted by SurveyUSA.

Today it's:

* Trump 45%, Clinton 40%. (There is a 20-point Gender Gap; Trump leads by 18 points among seniors.)
* Trump 44%, Sanders 40%. (Trump leads by 10 among independents and by 6 among moderates.)
* Trump 44%, Biden 42%. (Trump leads by 10 among the best educated; Biden leads by 17 among the least educated.)
* Trump 44%, Gore 41%. (Trump leads by 12 among men and by 18 among voters age 50+.)

Among a subset of registered voters who tell SurveyUSA that they pay "a lot" of attention to politics, the scale tilts to the right: Today it's:

* Trump 54%, Clinton 36%.
* Trump 53%, Sanders 39%.
* Trump 53%, Biden 37%.
* Trump 54%, Gore 36%.

Voters were asked whether they support for a given Democrat "enthusiastically," "with reservations," or, whether they are "holding their nose" voting for a particular candidate.

* 57% of Clinton voters say they are voting enthusiastically.
* 53% of Sanders voters say they are voting enthusiastically.
* 49% of Biden backers say they are voting enthusiastically.
* 45% of Gore voters say they are voting enthusiastically.

By contrast:

* 8% of Clinton supporters say they are holding their nose.
* 8% of Sanders voters say they are holding their nose.
* 9% of Biden voters say they are holding their nose.
* 12% of Gore voters say they are holding their nose.

-snip-

Read more: http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=d950cadf-05ce-4148-a125-35c0cdab26c6

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Labor Day Look at the 2016 General Election For President: Every Democrat Trails Trump,... (Original Post) DonViejo Sep 2015 OP
Just wow. nt Mnemosyne Sep 2015 #1
President Trump, President Trump, Presidetn Trump... HassleCat Sep 2015 #2
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2015 #39
Moderates for Trump pscot Sep 2015 #3
I understand they're very active. HassleCat Sep 2015 #40
American exceptionalism on display for all the world to see. justhanginon Sep 2015 #4
Not one vote has been cast yeoman6987 Sep 2015 #5
and I think back to another "he can not be serious" candidate, Raygun........ugh. eom a kennedy Sep 2015 #6
Given relative name recognition, Sanders is doing very well here Tom Rinaldo Sep 2015 #7
That means like in the past, the Democratic Party must move further to the right. Huh? LiberalArkie Sep 2015 #8
This is not a believable poll DavidDvorkin Sep 2015 #9
Cell-phone and home-phone respondents are included in this survey DonViejo Sep 2015 #22
Trump is not a politician, he is different and must be evaluated differently FormerRepublicanNow Sep 2015 #36
Not according to other polls DavidDvorkin Sep 2015 #37
Jeebus!!!!! Can people really be that dumb?!?!?!?!? LongTomH Sep 2015 #10
Yes they can! SoapBox Sep 2015 #12
It could happen! StoneCarver Sep 2015 #19
Definitely! Often US = United Stupidity! What he knows about foreign policy and negotiations RKP5637 Sep 2015 #26
What I hear where I live is 840high Sep 2015 #35
MSM is doing all day, very enthused infommercials for him. merrily Sep 2015 #11
Yep, MSM is giving him a free ride. He knows how to work the MSM system. He has to be sitting RKP5637 Sep 2015 #29
The owners of the msm are causing that kind of coverage, not him. merrily Sep 2015 #31
Definitely! And it's a money maker for them. MSM could give a damn about the future of the US as RKP5637 Sep 2015 #32
I am not sure. MSM is owned by huge conglomerates. I think it might be worth it merrily Sep 2015 #33
Your last sentence sums MSM up perfectly! RKP5637 Sep 2015 #34
SurveyUSA polls are done by robo-pollsters cosmicone Sep 2015 #13
Yep Andy823 Sep 2015 #21
"Trump leads by 10 among the best educated; Biden leads by 17 among the least educated." HomerRamone Sep 2015 #14
This poll is not very believable Hawaii Hiker Sep 2015 #15
liberals had contempt for reagan too captainarizona Sep 2015 #16
Liberal Elitists? Sounds like you kind of agree with these “white people”. busterbrown Sep 2015 #42
Trump may be full of shit, but low information voters love this shit FormerRepublicanNow Sep 2015 #47
Pathetic opportunists.. asiliveandbreathe Sep 2015 #17
Absolutely do not buy it. redwitch Sep 2015 #18
Total Horse Shit, nt Ligyron Sep 2015 #20
Donald Trump absolutely could be elected president. David__77 Sep 2015 #23
I totally agree. hollowdweller Sep 2015 #50
!!!!! allan01 Sep 2015 #24
The M$M's job is almost done, thanks to the DNC lbrtbell Sep 2015 #25
Remember Romney in 2012 underthematrix Sep 2015 #27
Wow vadermike Sep 2015 #28
What world are you from? busterbrown Sep 2015 #41
Even if it's a shite poll, what it tells me is we've lost another summer BeyondGeography Sep 2015 #30
i agree about losing the summer questionseverything Sep 2015 #52
Good points BeyondGeography Sep 2015 #53
Watch what you ask for, Elmergantry Sep 2015 #38
So many here yes giddy hopes he keeps going with his xenophobic rants Person 2713 Sep 2015 #44
A shit economy. former9thward Sep 2015 #56
Very Plausible Elmergantry Sep 2015 #57
lets wait a bit, see what happens 0rganism Sep 2015 #43
When the media cover Trump 90% over anyone else, of course he's winning. Kablooie Sep 2015 #45
Time to get to work. Democrats need to make themselves as distinct from the Republicans as possible ck4829 Sep 2015 #46
that's the last thing party leaders will do. yurbud Sep 2015 #54
UK Daily Mail article on Trump & polls Wash. state Desk Jet Sep 2015 #48
I bet... Rafale Sep 2015 #49
We are seeing anger against oganized politics and the status quo. Agnosticsherbet Sep 2015 #51
Oh look, the morons in the media have another ridiculous poll result to talk about. 6000eliot Sep 2015 #55
 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
2. President Trump, President Trump, Presidetn Trump...
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 01:02 PM
Sep 2015

...President Trump, President Trump. I'm saying it over and over to se if I can get used to it. Not working so far.

Response to HassleCat (Reply #2)

justhanginon

(3,290 posts)
4. American exceptionalism on display for all the world to see.
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 01:13 PM
Sep 2015

The "greatest country" has a reality TV star with all the reality TV star qualifications leading in presidential polls. Does one laugh or cry? I think maybe we should cry!

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
5. Not one vote has been cast
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 01:16 PM
Sep 2015

Also the world is focusing on Europe right now. The United States is an after thought right now.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
7. Given relative name recognition, Sanders is doing very well here
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 01:20 PM
Sep 2015

Bernie has by far the least name recognition of anyone listed, and he's gotten the least publicity recently (well, next to Gore who doesn't need any) AND he does better than Clinton in every case. Only Biden does better than Bernie among the Democrats, but that's only with the less knowledgeable voters. Sanders show a lot of upside potential.

DavidDvorkin

(19,473 posts)
9. This is not a believable poll
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 01:32 PM
Sep 2015

Look at the percentages of Democrats, liberals, minorities, and the young shown as voting for Trump. Those breakdowns say that the sample was skewed or badly extrapolated.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
22. Cell-phone and home-phone respondents are included in this survey
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 05:06 PM
Sep 2015
Cell-phone and home-phone respondents are included in this survey. SurveyUSA interviewed 1,000 USA adults 09/02/15 and 09/03/15. Of the adults, 900 were registered to vote. Of the registered voters, 58% (522) pay "a lot" of attention to politics. This survey was conducted using blended sample, mixed-mode. Respondents reachable on a home telephone (62% of registered voters) were interviewed on their home (landline) telephone in the recorded voice of a professional announcer. Respondents not reachable on a home telephone (38% of registered voters) were shown a question on their smartphone, tablet or other electronic device. Cell respondents, as is typically the case, vote more Democratic than do landline respondents. Among just the universe of cell-phone respondents, Clinton defeats Trump by 16 points; Sanders defeats Trump by 12 points; Biden defeats Trump by 17 points; and Gore defeats Trump by 17 points. The more cell-phone respondents a pollster includes in its "mix" of voters, the more Democratic the poll results will be.

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=d950cadf-05ce-4148-a125-35c0cdab26c6


About the Poll: This poll was conducted by telephone in the voice of a professional announcer. Respondent households were selected at random, using Random Digit Dialed (RDD) sample provided by Survey Sampling, of Fairfield CT. All respondents heard the questions asked identically. The pollster's report includes the geography that was surveyed; the date(s) interviews were conducted, the number of respondents who answered each question and the theoretical margin of sampling error for each question. Where necessary, respondents were weighted using the most recent US Census estimates for age, gender, ethnic origin and region, to align the sample to the population. In theory, one can say with 95% certainty that the results would not vary by more than the stated margin of sampling error, in one direction or the other, had the entire universe of respondents with home telephones been interviewed with complete accuracy. There are other possible sources of error in all surveys that may be more serious than sampling error. These include: the difficulty of interviewing respondents who do not have a home telephone; the refusal by some with home telephones to be interviewed; the order in which questions are asked; the wording of questions; the way and extent to which data are weighted; and the manner in which specialized populations, such as likely voters, are determined. It is difficult to quantify the errors that may result from these and other factors. Research methodology, questionnaire design and fieldwork for this survey were completed by SurveyUSA of Clifton, NJ. This statement conforms to the principles of disclosure of the National Council on Public Polls.

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/methodology.aspx?g=d950cadf-05ce-4148-a125-35c0cdab26c6
 
36. Trump is not a politician, he is different and must be evaluated differently
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 09:07 PM
Sep 2015

He is a celebrity who people have invited into their homes (on TV) for many years. They think they know him and therefore they will vote for him. It does not matter if they are Democrats, liberals, minorities, or the young.

DavidDvorkin

(19,473 posts)
37. Not according to other polls
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 09:23 PM
Sep 2015

Which show massive rejection of him by groups that this poll says will vote for him. That makes this poll inconsisten with the body of others.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
12. Yes they can!
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 02:07 PM
Sep 2015

Because the idiots here in California voted in Gov. Moron Schwarzenegger.

The guy was the worst ever...people said they thought it would be "funny" to vote for him!

Do NOT let that happen with tRump folks!!!

GOTV!

 

StoneCarver

(249 posts)
19. It could happen!
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 03:17 PM
Sep 2015

Here in Minnesota we elected a former wrestler Jessie "the Body" Ventura Governor from the Independence Party. Heck my wife and I voted for him as a protest vote (he was running against Skip Humphrey (D) and Norm Coleman (R)). Skip is as exciting as a dead fish and Norm would sell his own Mother for a price - a total slimy skank. The sad thing about Jessie is he made it all about himself (like Trump). Jessie could have made a viable 3rd party, but he blew it. Jessie "blew up' after one term and moved to Mexico.
Stonecarver

RKP5637

(67,104 posts)
26. Definitely! Often US = United Stupidity! What he knows about foreign policy and negotiations
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 06:59 PM
Sep 2015

will bring on WWIII. He's corporate, which means win/lose. He has no concept of win/win.

 

840high

(17,196 posts)
35. What I hear where I live is
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 08:20 PM
Sep 2015

people want change. Fed up with status quo. My bridge group is split between Sanders and Trump.

RKP5637

(67,104 posts)
29. Yep, MSM is giving him a free ride. He knows how to work the MSM system. He has to be sitting
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 07:02 PM
Sep 2015

back laughing at how everyone else is doing the legwork for him. Americans are often a bunch of ignorant dopes, he knows how to rally the idiot factor of the US, sometimes about 50% or more of the population IMO.

And, he's getting all free advertising. What a deal for him. I think the US is foolish enough to elect him as president, and the future of this country will not be very pleasant. What is funny are the have nothing idiots that think he will make them rich or whatever. To me in my lifetime this is the scariest of times in the US. 2016 is a fork in the road and the wrong direction will sink the US for eons.

RKP5637

(67,104 posts)
32. Definitely! And it's a money maker for them. MSM could give a damn about the future of the US as
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 07:09 PM
Sep 2015

long as they are making a profit.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
33. I am not sure. MSM is owned by huge conglomerates. I think it might be worth it
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 07:31 PM
Sep 2015

to some of them to bore us to death with Trump, even if the ratings for a tiny piece of their total empire drop, as long as they don't get a President like Sanders.

You notice how they keep saying Trump is only one saying what's really on his mind? False. Sanders has been saying what is really on his mind for as long as he's been in politics.

How Trump is not taking donations from big donors? Who else is not taking donations from big donors--and never has?

How Trump is talking about taxing the rich? Who has REALLY been talking about taxing the rich?

And so on.

If Trump gets the Oval Office, they are sure they'll do fine. If Bernie gets in, they worry about wealth re-distribution.

RKP5637

(67,104 posts)
34. Your last sentence sums MSM up perfectly!
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 07:43 PM
Sep 2015

"If Trump gets the Oval Office, they are sure they'll do fine. If Bernie gets in, they worry about wealth re-distribution."

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
13. SurveyUSA polls are done by robo-pollsters
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 02:07 PM
Sep 2015

No actual human being asks questions and all answers have to fit one of the numbers on the keypad. Also, given the attention span of people before they hang up, the questions have to be extremely short.

Furthermore, to prevent people from hanging up, the first question has to be sensational in order to get them hooked.

The result is that only bored people with nothing else to do or confirmed pranksters take these polls.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
21. Yep
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 04:49 PM
Sep 2015

And since those who respond to these robo-polls are most likely the crowd that would vote for Trump, crazy, racist tea bagger types, it's not unusual to see such insane results. I don't know about the majority of people here, but when I get a robo call I don't even wait to see what they are going to say, I just hang up. When my mother in law was alive, she would answer every phone call and listen to those robo calls and response. She was a die hard Rush Limbaugh republican. So did my brother in law who is also a Limbaugh addict, but he would always claim to be a democrat and would always answer in favor of republicans.

These polls are total BS. If our country is really so damned stupid as to put someone like Trump in the WH, well we deserve what we get. I just don't buy it at all.

HomerRamone

(1,112 posts)
14. "Trump leads by 10 among the best educated; Biden leads by 17 among the least educated."
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 02:23 PM
Sep 2015

I'm a Bernie guy, not a Biden guy, but I can't even abbreviate it: WHAT THE FUCK?

Hawaii Hiker

(3,165 posts)
15. This poll is not very believable
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 02:37 PM
Sep 2015

Trump is getting 25% of the African american vote?......When was the last time the GOP candiate even got 10% of the African American vote....

He's also winning with Asians?.....Obama won with Asians by about 30% in 2012....

 

captainarizona

(363 posts)
16. liberals had contempt for reagan too
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 02:43 PM
Sep 2015

Most white people I talk too like trump, even a few black people. Most people I talk to don't like liberal elitists. the minorities as usual will decide the election, so hold on and we will see what happens. trump saying he will stop free trade and bring the jobs back is powerful stuff with you buy 90% from of us of what you sale to us ,but it angers the corporate state so he will have to watch his back. I think enough minority voters will not vote for I hope.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
42. Liberal Elitists? Sounds like you kind of agree with these “white people”.
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 11:40 PM
Sep 2015

Trump is a creator of free trade.. Once the shit comes out how he employed immigrant workers to build much of his empire at $5.00 an hr.. You know basically the guy is full of shit, ignorant about foreign policy, ignorant about environmental challenges,ignorant in saying he will stop free trade.. How the hell will he stop it? It’s been in place for the last 20 yrs. Again he’s just so full of shit,,

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
17. Pathetic opportunists..
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 02:57 PM
Sep 2015

bought and paid for trumpster - hand selected ..fur sur!!!

can I see the demographics for all who were called please...

David__77

(23,370 posts)
23. Donald Trump absolutely could be elected president.
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 05:07 PM
Sep 2015

It seems to me that many people are dismissive of his prospects. I don't have a similar view. He could become president and defeat the Democratic candidate.

lbrtbell

(2,389 posts)
25. The M$M's job is almost done, thanks to the DNC
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 06:53 PM
Sep 2015

All you see on TV anymore is Trump. The DNC, trying to protect Hillary by restricting debate, is only helping him by keeping our candidates out of the spotlight.

vadermike

(1,415 posts)
28. Wow
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 07:01 PM
Sep 2015

Not surprised I have been saying this for awhile. I think we are toast now. DNC should have had more debates from the get go. We screwed the pooch and the media is giving trump free air time and they will continue to until the end if the campaign .. God help us all. We should never joke and onout the donald anymore. He really has a great shot to be pres. The dem party is done for a generation. Even the GOP will be upended but not as badly. I weep for my country

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
41. What world are you from?
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 11:29 PM
Sep 2015

Trump is destroying the republican party’s most formidable candidates. Clinton is playing it all perfectly.. taking a professional low keyed approach.. Republican party is slowly dissolving, loosing the hispanic/Black and Women vote at incredible rate.. You read one dumb robo call vote and you kiss off the election to Trump..Give me a break..

BeyondGeography

(39,369 posts)
30. Even if it's a shite poll, what it tells me is we've lost another summer
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 07:02 PM
Sep 2015

Last edited Sat Sep 5, 2015, 07:40 PM - Edit history (1)

The right goes on the warpath and we go to sleep. Juxtapose this with HRC's newfound openness to more debates and you might conclude that some people on our side are starting to realize we need to change the narrative.

questionseverything

(9,651 posts)
52. i agree about losing the summer
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 09:04 PM
Sep 2015

not scheduling democratic debates was a huge mistake and lord knows trump is getting free airtime 24/7 but

the poll is meaningless...first of all it is a national poll and we do not elect presidents that way

if you look deep in the numbers the south is over represented @ 36%

conservatives are over sampled @ 34% compared to liberals @ 28%

and finally only 24% earned under 40k, in the 40-80k category 36% and 80k plus 40%

i am just saying the poll respondents were not a proper overview of Americans

BeyondGeography

(39,369 posts)
53. Good points
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 10:46 PM
Sep 2015

And any poll that shows 25 percent AA support for a Republican should be laughed at. But their frontrunner has hit a nerve while ours is still trying to find the bottom of her email problem. A debate or two would have helped everyone including the media to refocus. And it's another six weeks until that happens. Lame, Democratic Party. Very lame.

 

Elmergantry

(884 posts)
38. Watch what you ask for,
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 09:24 PM
Sep 2015

You just might get it.

I am reminded of that axiom when recalling some here were giddy with delight when Trump announced.

The right was snickering likewise about Obama.

But got to wonder; if Trump should win it all, what compels the electorate to go from one extreme, Obama, to another in such a short time?

Person 2713

(3,263 posts)
44. So many here yes giddy hopes he keeps going with his xenophobic rants
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 01:52 AM
Sep 2015

The pendulum swings one end to the other . It's action then reaction

former9thward

(31,981 posts)
56. A shit economy.
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 01:19 AM
Sep 2015

That is the reason for the swing. We had a shit economy in 2008 and Obama was elected. We still do now.

 

Elmergantry

(884 posts)
57. Very Plausible
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 07:51 AM
Sep 2015

Neither party has done zip to help the middle class. Seems to me a lot of people are just so fed up that they will go for anything/anyone perceived to be "outsiders". Wouldnt surprise me to see a Sanders v.Trump election.

0rganism

(23,944 posts)
43. lets wait a bit, see what happens
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 12:10 AM
Sep 2015

1. this poll could be an outlier - with the demographic results as they are, i suspect it could be
2. the primaries are still in progress, it's far too early to guesstimate the 2016 general based on a single phone poll

although no doubt DT will play this poll up considerably for the next week or two

Kablooie

(18,626 posts)
45. When the media cover Trump 90% over anyone else, of course he's winning.
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 04:09 AM
Sep 2015

It's marketing 101. Repeat something often enough and people start believing.

In a normal election the media will give all the primary candidates approximately the same amount of screen time.
But they are all pushing Trump out in front continuouslY so all the other candidates, of both parties, are being obscured.

He may actually win if the media keepS this up.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
51. We are seeing anger against oganized politics and the status quo.
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 08:21 PM
Sep 2015

I can't wait to see how the next poll plays out.

6000eliot

(5,643 posts)
55. Oh look, the morons in the media have another ridiculous poll result to talk about.
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 11:38 PM
Sep 2015

Remember when the polls were hardly ever right in 2008 and 2012?

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