Harvard law professor Larry Lessig says he's running for president
Source: The Guardian
The Harvard law professor Lawrence Lessig said on Sunday his presidential exploratory committee had reached the $1m benchmark he said would trigger a formal White House bid.
The Democrat announced his fundraising total in an interview on ABCs This Week.
Lessig said he was running to address campaign finance reform, voting rights issues and political gerrymandering.
Should he achieve his agenda as president, the 54-year-old South Dakota native promises to resign and let his vice-president take over. He declined to name potential vice-presidential picks when asked during the interview.
Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/sep/06/larry-lessig-presidental-candidate-2016
He's a good professor, I don't know how he'd be as a politician.
HomerRamone
(1,112 posts)or O'Malley?
MH1
(17,573 posts)JudyM
(29,187 posts)That's a pretty wild platform. Creative. Wonder how he'll handle issues unrelated to those ... In a debate.
mopinko
(69,990 posts)very strange. why would you vote for someone who promises to quit?
and obviously, he isnt paying attention. in 2 terms obama has barely scratched the surface.
freedom fighter jh
(1,782 posts)by making it his *only* priority until it's done -- and then he quits. He calls this a "referendum presidency." Once he's passed his reforms, it becomes easier to get good stuff through Congress.
I believe he also said he'll drop out of the race if one of the Democratic frontrunners (Hillary or Bernie) will agree to make finance reform her or his only priority until it's done.
The best way this can work, I think, is if Hillary or Bernie takes him up on his offer. But I don't know if that works for either of them.
dsc
(52,152 posts)Why in God's name would any Republican, even one who liked the idea of campaign finance reform cooperate with either Clinton or Sanders on it, if they could make sure nothing got done at all by simply stopping campaign finance reform?
freedom fighter jh
(1,782 posts)But the plan may work if enough decent people get elected to Congress. With this unconventional candidate bringing new energy into the system, maybe enough people who don't usually vote will come out and vote for decent people for Congress so that it can work.
By "decent people" I mean people who would not obstruct just for the sake of obstructing, the kind why at would, ask you say, "make sure nothing got done" just because it isn't their party making it happen. That's the kind of people who dominate now, but one hopes that can change.
brooklynite
(94,331 posts)freedom fighter jh
(1,782 posts)His plan means *he doesn't start* anything new until this happens. He works with the VP, who is soon to be press, on stuff that comes up.
Putting other things aside is a sacrifice, but it may be what has to happen for anything to get done at all.
brooklynite
(94,331 posts)freedom fighter jh
(1,782 posts)He won't start new things other than his reform package.
He will deal with what happens.
brooklynite
(94,331 posts)freedom fighter jh
(1,782 posts)Since the plan is to have the VP serve most of the term, I'm guessing that when something other than reform needs to be dealt with, the referendum press will work in consultation with the VP and decide in accordance with the VP's policies, since that is what the people will have voted for.
brooklynite
(94,331 posts)...or can we acknowledge that this is a stunt?
freedom fighter jh
(1,782 posts)He said if gets the nomination he will set up a process to find the Democrat who best represents the people's will and will choose that person as VP. He can't just choose the second-place candidate, because his (Lessig's) presence would have distorted the vote. For example, if the second place candidate is Bernie, Lessig will have to consider the possibility that if the contest had been between Bernie and Hillary, Hillary might have won -- but she's in third place because so many of her votes went to Lessig. He said he would work out a process.
That person would agree to serve as VP because (1) At that point in the process Lessig has the nomination, so Hillary or Bernie can't get it anyway; and (2) The plan would be for Lessig's VP candidate to serve most of the term.
I think what Lessig really wants is to get one or preferably both of the two front-running Democrats to agree to deal with campaign finance before starting anything else. He said if either one of them does, he'll end his candidacy.
JudyM
(29,187 posts)that will pull him off course.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)Sanders is a household name compared with this guy.
herding cats
(19,558 posts)I think he's an interesting person and I'd love to see his thoughts against gerrymandering brought forward even more, but as I said, I don't know how he'd be as a politician. I doubt he'll even make it into any debates. Which I'm not sure is a good thing, yet it's the truth of matters. He's smart, and excellent on some topics. He could help to advance the general discussion even more toward the populous message.
As a world leader, though? I just don't see him fitting into that mold. No matter the depth of respect I hold for Professor Lessig and his reasons behind this decision. I doubt his run will have any real legs.
freedom fighter jh
(1,782 posts)Lessig wants to do his reform and then get out. That makes the choice of VP very important. Except for emergencies, Lessig will do nothing but his reform. Anything else that must be done will be decided by the VP, who, after all, will be taking over the presidency in a short time. Err, if I have that right.
herding cats
(19,558 posts)My take on him is it's all about the message.
I suspect his intentions are honorable and not self-serving.. He's about the message. Equal right to vote, equal representation and citizen funded elections. He can, and has, spoken on these topics at great length before. He has no reason to be politic about an issue, because he's not a politician.
I can't see him as a politician, and I don't think he plans on actually being one. My guess is he wants to add the power of his voice to those of us who recognize the need for change due to the corruption within our current system. Which is an amazing strong point of his.
He wants to educate us, help ignite the fire of change under us, not rule us. He's a brilliant mind and an interesting speaker. Who better to lecture us on what's wrong in our current society without fear of political fallout? What he was lacking was a platform where people from all walks of life might be inclined to listen.
He says things even Bernie can't say as a politician, but once they're brought out in the open all our candidates will be free to opine on them as they see fit.
I'd like to hear from him. I really hope we get a chance to have his voice be heard.
freedom fighter jh
(1,782 posts)MH1
(17,573 posts)Lessig has been a thought leader for years on these type of issues, and his name is well known in intellectual circles. I think he is trying to get these topics into the discussion in a more serious way than they ever have been addressed before ... more serious than any mainstream candidate will ever address them. It will be interesting to see how successful he is with this approach. But in any case I would love to hear him debate these issues with the other candidates.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)Wash. state Desk Jet
(3,426 posts)Interesting approach to stepping out for a professor . A way to get out there,breath the air of independence,out there in the world as it is complete with an exit strategy ! Interesting !
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)People like that have NO idea. None.
Bugenhagen
(151 posts)End Of The Road
(1,397 posts)...from several documentaries about Aaron Swartz, most particularly "The Internet's Own Boy".
I just popped over to Lessig's blog and yes, he has heard of Bernie Sanders and has much respect for him.
I suspect that Lessig, if he can get any coverage at all, will raise thoughtful issues about fairness and inclusion in political process and corruption in our democracy that a lot of Dems will like to hear. I don't have a clue where he stands on foreign policy other than he's not a hawk.
Take some time, as i will, to wiki him and wade through his blog. This is a fundamentally good, caring, and very smart guy a la Jimmy Carter, but unlikely to be our next prez.
lordsummerisle
(4,651 posts)because he'd be a lot more useful if he just supported Bernie who shares the same belief on money and politics and has a thriving campaign underway...
freedom fighter jh
(1,782 posts). . . if it is president's *only* project until it passes. Once it passes, accomplishing other good things will become much easier. Bernie talks about campaign finance reform, but he has not said he'll drop everything else until reform happens.
I think Lessig's approach makes sense, given how hard it is to get anything reasonable through Congress. If the brake shoe is rubbing against the rim of your bicycle wheel, you choice is to stop and fix it or to put a whole lot more energy into pedaling. If it's rubbing hard and you have more than a few feet left on your trip, you'll get where you're going quicker if you stop and fix the brake. Congress members' indebtedness to their donors is such a drag on Congress that other things we need can't get passed.
DJ13
(23,671 posts)The two of them will triangulate their messages about corporate money influencing our political system, taking aim directly at Hillary's campaign to show where her allegiances will lie.
Karma13612
(4,541 posts)magical thyme
(14,881 posts)Skwmom
(12,685 posts)and benefit Clinton.
Demeter
(85,373 posts)The stuff he wants to do, he should run for Congress.
End Of The Road
(1,397 posts)If elected on a single issue, that's a citizen mandate to fix the corruption in campaign financing so everyone's vote matters. Then he steps down for VP to become pres. Think of a Lessig-Sanders ticket. You fix a big issue and end up with Bernie anyway. PLEASE watch videos at lessigforpresident.com. It's simply brilliant, and he's a great guy. You will like what you hear.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)Gothmog
(144,908 posts)nichomachus
(12,754 posts)I've had one encounter with him. Hope I never have another. Asshole.
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)Arkana
(24,347 posts)You don't get to be a referendum President, especially considering that Congress will NEVER touch a CFR bill.
YabaDabaNoDinoNo
(460 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)discussions. 3 Topics todays Republicans hate to face.
Divernan
(15,480 posts)by taking time from Bernie's hammering on real issues. Of course, it will help Clinton, since it will reduce her time being forced to answer questions she's been successfully ducking, dodging and avoiding so far.
End Of The Road
(1,397 posts)Lessig wants yours and my vote to carry as much weight as that of a wealthy contributor. Until that's fixed, many of the other real, progressive issues won't get a hearing.
They said he has to only get to 1% and with the corporate media promoting him, he will make it.
brooklynite
(94,331 posts)...where do you imagine he'll get anything close to a decent polling result to warrant being included?
And if your argument is that he deserve to be in the debates, what about the 85 or so other candidates who have registered with the FEC as Democrats?
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)that every Democratic candidate for president agree. There is no way he's got enough support, but getting the idea out there and making sure people are talking about it is enough.
Divernan
(15,480 posts)bcarey Boredwiththeusa
34m ago
So far, I haven't been able to find the sources of his funding. Anyone know where it is reported (if it has been reported).
Hope it's not from a Clinton superpac.
Every new democratic candidate must be scrutinized very carefully now. Hillary wants those delegates, whatever it takes. Running a fake candidate whose only real purpose would be to endorse her at the Democratic convention is not out of the question.... which is exactly what Biden would be.Cayce Jones
16h ago
Does Lessig say more about how he would achieve these objectives? Any Democrat who is elected President may be able to nominate Supreme Court Justices. If the Court's alignment shifts left, they would reverse the Court's decisions that gutted the Voting Rights Act and found for Citizens.
How would gerrymandering be stopped except by an Act of Congress?
All of the Democratic candidates are proposing changes that they can't accomplish on their own. Maybe they have to do so to pander to an uninformed electorate who want angels to save them. If they said, "With the help of Congress, I will ..." it would be more realistic.USAteacher
18h ago
DNC had to find a leftist that kinda looks like Bernie Sanders. Must keep the corprate gods in power by splitting the Bernie vote so Pillary can win. Good luck on that idea. $1,000,000 could have fed a lot of hungry people or housed a lot of homeless, now its just money wasted to over paid IT workers so they can advocate for a person they dont support themselves. Feel the Bern!bcarey
3h ago
Lessig is an interesting character. He has been supporting Donald Trump.
Donald Trump is the biggest gift to the movement for reform since the Supreme Court gave us Citizens United, said Lessig in a recent interview, referring to the court decision that riled up liberals by granting essentially unlimited campaign contributions from corporate entities. What hes saying is absolutely correct, the absolute truth. He has pulled back the curtain.
There are many sources online about his support of Trump. He has also said that he would consider running as the VP candidate with Trump if Trump was to decide to run as an Independent.
That being said, Lessig, running as a Democrat, might be an excellent VP choice for Sanders.
But, first, he has to fall out of love with Trump.
End Of The Road
(1,397 posts)Divernan
(15,480 posts)It has an interesting history.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/06/mayday-pac-2014_n_6109992.html
But I'd like to see who the most recent donors are re size of donation and corporate/political affiliations of donors.
End Of The Road
(1,397 posts)Some or perhaps most of those donations may have gone directly to his exploratory committee. His website says $1,038,589 from 8529 donors. As for names of donors, we may have to wait for FEC filing.
freedom fighter jh
(1,782 posts)Trump *did* pull back the curtain when he said Hillary had to do what he wanted because he had given her money. That's the way the system works, the system that Lessig wants to change, and a candidate who comes out and says that is indeed a gift to the reform movement, because no one else who gets that much national attention will be that explicit about it.
That does not mean Lessig likes Trump.
freedom fighter jh
(1,782 posts)at about noon.
Check it out here.