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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 08:25 PM Sep 2015

Macy's To Close Up To 40 Stores

Source: USA Today

Ed Brackett and Alexander Coolidge, USA TODAY 6:41 p.m. EDT

Macy's will close 35 to 40 underperforming stores, around 5% of its total locations, the department store chain announced Tuesday.

The stores, slated to be shuttered in early 2016, will be identified at a later date, said the company with corporate offices in Cincinnati and New York.

Annual sales volume at the stores, "net of sales expected to be retained in nearby stores and online," as the company puts it in a statement, is expected to be about $300 million. That would represent about 1 percent of total Macy's sales, the company said.

The closures are a bold move: Macy's has closed a net total of 40 stores over the past five years. CEO Terry Lundgren said the retailer will remain a major store operator, but noted the change comes as shoppers alter their habits, buying more merchandise online.

Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2015/09/08/macys-store-closings/71896348/

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Macy's To Close Up To 40 Stores (Original Post) Purveyor Sep 2015 OP
We have two in an "old mall" near here underpants Sep 2015 #1
Fair Oaks Mall? 2 separate Macys in one mall is pretty dumb. n/t FSogol Sep 2015 #6
No Richmond Va underpants Sep 2015 #8
Regency Square Mall mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2015 #21
Same in Columbus Maeve Sep 2015 #13
Yay!! 7wo7rees Sep 2015 #2
Only people who dont care about being ripped off shop at Macy's Tea Potty Sep 2015 #10
Not fair--I get great bargains during the sales Maeve Sep 2015 #14
I like Macys. They have brands that I can't get anywhere else. roody Sep 2015 #16
"Lifestyle store?" They're like a Kohls from what I've seen. herding cats Sep 2015 #19
surprised actually that they didn't hold out through xmas season tomm2thumbs Sep 2015 #3
They will close after Xmas. thesquanderer Sep 2015 #4
right in front of me and I missed it tomm2thumbs Sep 2015 #7
If my Macy's store closes - I won't 840high Sep 2015 #5
I've never shopped Macy's left-of-center2012 Sep 2015 #9
The same cheap Made in China Le Taz Hot Sep 2015 #11
Yes. murielm99 Sep 2015 #18
I have yet to find a clothing store that regularly sells American made Le Taz Hot Sep 2015 #24
'Underperforming' Gidney N Cloyd Sep 2015 #12
I've not stepped in one in a couple years, at least... SoapBox Sep 2015 #15
There are a couple in my area that I cannot imagine are doing well. David__77 Sep 2015 #17
Same story all across the country. Kotya Sep 2015 #22
Yet Macy's has swallowed up so many smaller department stores over the years davidpdx Sep 2015 #20
Macy's bought out Bullock's, a great department BuddhaGirl Sep 2015 #25
Same for Kaufmann's in Pittsburgh happyslug Sep 2015 #26
Thankfully they didn't do that with the old Meier and Frank building davidpdx Sep 2015 #27
You mean buying out regional stores didn't work? romanic Sep 2015 #23
You can NOT upgrade when your customer base is being downgraded. happyslug Sep 2015 #28

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,379 posts)
21. Regency Square Mall
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 10:05 AM
Sep 2015

I used to drive down there in the late 70s to hit Thalhimer's and Miller and Rhoades, if that's the place I think it is. There was a record store too, Peaches, that might have been in that mall. That's back when stores had George Washington's Birthday sales.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/37%C2%B036'04.8%22N+77%C2%B034'03.8%22W/@37.6010007,-77.5674792,1465m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x0?hl=en

Maeve

(42,279 posts)
13. Same in Columbus
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 10:33 PM
Sep 2015

Two major store chains bought out by Macy's at either end of the mall. who needs two with identical merchandise? Altho I do prefer the one that used to be Lazarus...

7wo7rees

(5,128 posts)
2. Yay!!
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 08:35 PM
Sep 2015

They the retailers, have brought it down upon themselves.
Sorry for the many employees though. Our next door neighbor is one. 20 years.

 

Tea Potty

(27 posts)
10. Only people who dont care about being ripped off shop at Macy's
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 09:54 PM
Sep 2015

Its a "lifestyle" store, for those don't mind being ripped off, so long as in the process they get to feel better about themselves.

herding cats

(19,558 posts)
19. "Lifestyle store?" They're like a Kohls from what I've seen.
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 02:34 AM
Sep 2015

Their problem is their profile is still largely in shopping malls in too many regions, which are a dying entity. I never go to a "mall" and I know no one who does anymore. They're just too much hassle to have to navigate and endure.

A lot of us just can't allot a full day for shopping anymore like people used to in the past. We're busy and need things in stores nearer to us with easier access that fit into our busy lifestyles and hectic schedules. Either that or an amazing online presence that works seamlessly for consumers. As I said, we're busy and don't have time to waste on shopping like those before us may have had. Shopping is a necessary chore, not a luxury for many of us anymore.

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
3. surprised actually that they didn't hold out through xmas season
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 08:38 PM
Sep 2015

figured that would be their best bet to go out on a positive

 

840high

(17,196 posts)
5. If my Macy's store closes - I won't
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 08:55 PM
Sep 2015

miss it. They changed brands a while ago. For the older woman not much there. I find better buys at thrift stores.

murielm99

(30,730 posts)
18. Yes.
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 11:40 PM
Sep 2015

I have noticed the decline in the quality of merchandise.

Why should I buy their cheap crap? I can get that anywhere.

Where do you go these days for quality clothing that lasts awhile? I will pay more, if necessary. And if it is American made, all the better.

I want things I can try on as well. It is nice to see the Internet stores for union made and American made, but I need a brick and mortar store for my clothing.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
24. I have yet to find a clothing store that regularly sells American made
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 12:27 PM
Sep 2015

products. I did, however, find an SAS shoe store in my town and have bought 2 pairs from them. Not cheap but well worth the price. Really high quality and hand made in the U.S.A.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
15. I've not stepped in one in a couple years, at least...
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 10:39 PM
Sep 2015

Took Mom a couple times...she had gift cards and/or wanted some perfume or lotion...she was fascinated with all the stuff there, so it was worth it at the time.

David__77

(23,367 posts)
17. There are a couple in my area that I cannot imagine are doing well.
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 11:09 PM
Sep 2015

They're located in old, struggling malls. One of these malls, lost its other anchor and is almost completely empty inside - I noticed a nail parlor and a hair salon inside. My boyfriend, who's in retail, says that the sector is struggling in general as people opt to buy stuff online.

 

Kotya

(235 posts)
22. Same story all across the country.
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 10:39 AM
Sep 2015

Anchor stores are failing and taking malls down with them. Half vacant, run-down malls litter the American landscape.

Personally, I'm going to miss them. The shopping mall experience was a big part of my Gen-X youth. When I was a child, I loved going to the mall with my parents. As a teen, I worked at various mall stores and my friends were always there. We all had evening and weekend jobs at the mall.

Malls are a symbol of a different era. Consumer habits have changed and they have no real place today. Add this to the fact that they built way too many of them during the 80s-90s.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
20. Yet Macy's has swallowed up so many smaller department stores over the years
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 05:29 AM
Sep 2015

In the Pacific NW (Oregon and Washington), Meier and Frank was one of the bigger department stores. They bought ZCMI out of bankruptcy in 1999 (which had stores in Idaho and Utah). Then Macy's took over Meier and Frank in 2006.

BuddhaGirl

(3,601 posts)
25. Macy's bought out Bullock's, a great department
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 02:23 PM
Sep 2015

store chain in So. Calif. Was never the same - Macy's had no character, was very cookie cutter.

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
26. Same for Kaufmann's in Pittsburgh
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 06:47 PM
Sep 2015

Macy's finally decided to sell the old main Kaufmann Store in Downtown Pittsburgh last month.

More on Kaufmann's

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaufmann%27s

The closing of the old main store:

http://www.post-gazette.com/business/pittsburgh-company-news/2015/07/13/Downtown-Macy-s-store-to-close/stories/201507130124

I am going to miss the old wooden escalators on the top floors of the old Kaufmann's, I took my nieces on them when they were shopping for school clothes when they were in grade school:



http://www.elevatorbobs-elevator-pics.com/macys_pitts.html

You could hear them way before you could see them. Took them once and every school year afterward it was my job to take them again. These were not those silent metal escalators you see in mall, these were loud clunky but reliable and safe. Not used on the high traffic floors but used where the offices were located.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
27. Thankfully they didn't do that with the old Meier and Frank building
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 03:28 AM
Sep 2015

It is on the National Registry of Historic Places as is two other buildings that were owned by Meier and Frank downtown. All three have been renovated, the delivery depot and warehouse were sold. I worked for Meier and Frank and when i started with them we worked out of the warehouse downtown just before they moved it out to the suburbs.

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
28. You can NOT upgrade when your customer base is being downgraded.
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 02:32 PM
Sep 2015

Wages for the bottom 99% of the population has been stagnate since the early 1980s. From the Great Depression to the 1980s, you had the opposite effect, the income of the top 1% dropped, bu the income of the bottom 90% increased (the group in between, the Top 10% less the Top 1% also saw an increase but in terms of percentage NOT as great as the bottom 90%).

Due to this increase in income from the late 1930s to the early 1980s, people could, and did buy better products. Thus what a "average" family would buy in 1940 was substantially lower in quality then what they children bought for their families in 1960 and what they grandchildren bought for their children in 1980. People slowly upgraded their tastes between 1940 and 1980 and the retail stores cashed in on this movement by slowly improving the quality of their products.

It was noted in the late 1980s and in the 1990s that people were NOT upgrading again, but actually downgrading. i.e. going to Walmart more then Macy's. The reason was income was NOT increasing but stagnating. Retailers bought into the concept that people have increased quality every 20 years anticipated another such increase, but with no increase in real wages, no such increase in quality being purchased occurred. Thus you saw Sears and other retailers upgrade their products in anticipation that the next generation would upgrade just like their parents and grandparents had done. and wonder why their customers deserted them for Walmart, which they saw as a down grade.

Now, the high end stores flourished as the top 10% were able to keep up with the top 1%, but anyone whose customer base was the bottom 90%, saw their sales DECLINE unless they were a severe discounter like Walmart (and Walmart realized that the low discount market was the market most dependent on price, made sure it had the lowest prices, driving its competitors on the low end out of business).

Thus the high end market held its own in the 1990s and today, the low end discounters concentrated into one store, Walmart, and the stores that catered to the people between those two ends, saw their pool of customer become smaller as most of them ended up going to Walmart to maximize their money. Sears and Kmart merged in an effort to save both stores, but only resulted in a larger store to squeezed between Walmart and the high end stores. Macy';s tried to be a high end store, but it was always a middle store dependent on those people NOT going to Walmart but unable to afford the high end stores (and most people can NOT afford those high end stores). Like Sears and Kmart (technically a notch below Macy's but not that much below) the pool of customer has been becoming smaller and smaller which leads to declines in total sales.

Thus Macy's problems is the same as Sears/Kmart and other stores better then Walmart, a declining pool of customers and no way to end the decline. In such situation you end up in the same situation Walmart is in, the biggest store in your niche but unable to come out of it and dependent on your customers and hoping they do not lose any more income. Walmart is stronger here for its customer can NOT lose much more income, but Macy's customers can and will and thus be forced by economics to become Walmart customers.

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