U.S. Government Blocks Release of New CIA Torture Details

[Hissyspit]

Source: Reuters

U.S. government blocks release of new CIA torture details

Thu Sep 10, 2015 | 6:46

By David Rohde

NEW YORK (Reuters) - U.S. government officials have blocked the release of 116 pages of defense lawyers' notes detailing the torture that Guantanamo Bay detainee Abu Zubaydah says he experienced in CIA custody, defense lawyers said on Thursday.

The treatment of Zubaydah, who lost one eye and was waterboarded 83 times in a single month while held by the CIA, according to government documents, has been the focus of speculation for years.

"We submitted 116 pages in 10 separate submissions," Joe Margulies, Zubaydah’s lead defense lawyer, told Reuters. "The government declared all of it classified."

Margulies and lawyers for other detainees said that the decision showed that the Obama administration plans to continue declaring detainees’ accounts of their own torture classified. A Central Intelligence Agency spokesperson declined to comment.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0RA2RM20150910

[mpcamb]

1. Why protect those Bush Era programs that makes the world anti-USA???

[reddread]

2. its only the tip of the iceberg

just the illegal surveillance of US citizens should knock the wheels off the beast.
We have some serious housekeeping to attend to.
they have abandoned their obligations towards truth and justice, transparency and democratic process.
its time for an accounting.

[librechik]

7. The policies don't change from President to President

Bush tactics have been codified into law and policy and feds are required to obey.It's just a side effect of the death of representational democracy, accomplished decades ago by the faceless bureaucrats who actually run the country.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2014/10/18/vote-all-you-want-the-secret-government-won-change/jVSkXrENQlu8vNcBfMn9sL/story.html

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"Why did the face in the Oval Office change but the policies remain the same? Critics tend to focus on Obama himself, a leader who perhaps has shifted with politics to take a harder line. But Tufts University political scientist Michael J. Glennon has a more pessimistic answer: Obama couldn’t have changed policies much even if he tried.

Though it’s a bedrock American principle that citizens can steer their own government by electing new officials, Glennon suggests that in practice, much of our government no longer works that way. In a new book, “National Security and Double Government,” he catalogs the ways that the defense and national security apparatus is effectively self-governing, with virtually no accountability, transparency, or checks and balances of any kind. He uses the term “double government”: There’s the one we elect, and then there’s the one behind it, steering huge swaths of policy almost unchecked. Elected officials end up serving as mere cover for the real decisions made by the bureaucracy.

Glennon cites the example of Obama and his team being shocked and angry to discover upon taking office that the military gave them only two options for the war in Afghanistan: The United States could add more troops, or the United States could add a lot more troops. Hemmed in, Obama added 30,000 more troops."

[mpcamb]

9. All I'm asking is for a day in court. Take someone to court.

International, UN, the Hague, US, I don't care.

It's really not impossible to do it even tho everyone acts as if it is.

Snowden, Assange, Manning- No problem coming up with charges for them. But start a war, annialate a city or a country and you get a walk.

The only way to reverse this is for the next regime to step to the sidelines when the changes are pressed. Let the public will and outrage come to the fore.
It happened in Guatemala recently.

[chapdrum]

3. Great news

for the Constitution and American democracy.
Speaks so well for the president, too.

[PSPS]

4. More of that hopey changey thing.

[olddots]

5. Mer a kah fuck yeah !

[OnyxCollie]

6. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

[Judi Lynn]

8. No reason exists for hiding the truth about this. n/t